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2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#1 » by HiRez » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:14 am

I'll try to update periodically.

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Post#2 » by HiRez » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:33 pm

Updated for Dec. 25. Minimum 10 minutes per game. Sorted by fantasy points. Wiseman looking good so far.

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Post#3 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:00 pm

Top 10 after 3 games from what I've seen on a very limited sample size:

1 Haliburton
2 Wiseman
3 Williams
4 Edwards
5 Anthony
6 Okoro
7 Pritchard
8 Avdija
9 Toppin
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Post#4 » by HiRez » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:58 pm

Updated for Dec. 27.

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Sacto really struck gold with Haliburton at #12. He was #2 on my board before the draft. Avdija still has to prove he can shoot efficiently, but he can really fill up a stat sheet, he's gonna be good. Edwards still has a lot of question marks, but he's better than I thought he might be.
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Post#5 » by Ilovethebay » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:00 pm

HiRez wrote:Updated for Dec. 27.

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Awesome idea but I cant see any of your images for some reason.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#6 » by HiRez » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:08 pm

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HiRez wrote:Updated for Dec. 27.

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Awesome idea but I cant see any of your images for some reason.

That's odd. I was using ImgBB, this is Imgur, can you see it?

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Post#7 » by Coxy » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:09 pm

Yeah can see it now HiRez.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#8 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:25 pm

curious why you're looking at them from a FPPG standpoint

i'd rather use something like WS imo at this point -

1 Haliburton 0.4
2 Achiuwa 0.2
3 Cole Anthony 0.2
4 Antman 0.2
5 Sam Merrill 0.2
6 Avdija 0.1
7 McDaniels 0.1
8 Okoro 0.1
9 Pritchard 0.1
10 Wiseman 0.1
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Post#9 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:31 pm

I've seen everyone but Okoro so far. Wiseman, Hali and Cole Anthony have been the most impressive as far as instant contributions. Deni and Pritchard look good too. Quickly is another one I'd sneak in there. PWill didn't really impress last night but he barely touched the ball so it was hard to judge.
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Post#10 » by Coxy » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:14 pm

The young Houston rookie Tate was scoring in bunches in his 1st game for them. One to watch maybe.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#11 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:curious why you're looking at them from a FPPG standpoint

i'd rather use something like WS imo at this point -

1 Haliburton 0.4
2 Achiuwa 0.2
3 Cole Anthony 0.2
4 Antman 0.2
5 Sam Merrill 0.2
6 Avdija 0.1
7 McDaniels 0.1
8 Okoro 0.1
9 Pritchard 0.1
10 Wiseman 0.1


Isn't WS is more about relative team performance than rookie performance. If a rookie is BY FAR the best player in the NBA but his team wins 1 game his WS rating will be terrible won't it?
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#12 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:01 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:curious why you're looking at them from a FPPG standpoint

i'd rather use something like WS imo at this point -

1 Haliburton 0.4
2 Achiuwa 0.2
3 Cole Anthony 0.2
4 Antman 0.2
5 Sam Merrill 0.2
6 Avdija 0.1
7 McDaniels 0.1
8 Okoro 0.1
9 Pritchard 0.1
10 Wiseman 0.1


Isn't WS is more about relative team performance than rookie performance. If a rookie is BY FAR the best player in the NBA but his team wins 1 game his WS rating will be terrible won't it?


yes it's based a wins-based metric but I find the story it tells better than raw fantasy points.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#13 » by Mylie10 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:05 pm

HiRez wrote:Updated for Dec. 27.

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Sacto really struck gold with Haliburton at #12. He was #2 on my board before the draft. Avdija still has to prove he can shoot efficiently, but he can really fill up a stat sheet, he's gonna be good. Edwards still has a lot of question marks, but he's better than I thought he might be.


Thanks for posting. Wiseman shooting 83% from three lol. And as bad as it seems he’s rebounding, he is leading all rookies
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Post#14 » by Mylie10 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:06 pm

It’s three games, of course you use the raw numbers lol

And it’s fun to look at, doesn’t need to be a cause for dismissal
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Post#15 » by HiRez » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:32 am

clyde21 wrote:curious why you're looking at them from a FPPG standpoint

i'd rather use something like WS imo at this point

Oh, there's a simple reason for that, I don't have access to Win Shares data in an automated way. I could try to calculate it but it's actually a pretty complex, multi-step calculation. For example it requires calculating multiple league averages for points per possession. And I don't know if I have all the components to do the calculation. Fantasy points for sure isn't perfect (biased towards offense and high usage for starters) but it's a decent overall barometer.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#16 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:44 am

HiRez wrote:
clyde21 wrote:curious why you're looking at them from a FPPG standpoint

i'd rather use something like WS imo at this point

Oh, there's a simple reason for that, I don't have access to Win Shares data in an automated way. I could try to calculate it but it's actually a pretty complex, multi-step calculation. For example it requires calculating multiple league averages for points per possession. And I don't know if I have all the components to do the calculation. Fantasy points for sure isn't perfect (biased towards offense and high usage for starters) but it's a decent overall barometer.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2020.html

just click on the Win shares column and it'll categorize it for you, or you can extract the report directly from bball ref
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#17 » by TB » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:18 am

Im very happy with Wiseman.

Still don't think it would have been a terrible idea to trade back for Mitchell Robinson or Wendell Carter while picking Haliburton. He would be great on the dubs.
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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#18 » by HiRez » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:28 pm

I'll see about getting WS data, but it's going to be more difficult than just pulling from an API (I'm lazy, so no, I'm not going to input these manually, haha).

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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#19 » by HiRez » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:05 pm

Updated through Dec. 29.

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Re: 2020 Rookie Tracker 

Post#20 » by Coxy » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:31 pm

3pt% has dropped to 62.5% now. What a loser.
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