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Yikes, Wiseman can't compete with Myles Turner. Is Wiseman another kwame brown?

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Post#41 » by FNQ » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:09 am

Cant we make this thread about crypto like the other one? So it can be a conversation worth having?
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Post#44 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:17 am

I'm disappointed there hasn't been a "solid gold" yet
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Re: Yikes, Wiseman can't compete with Myles Turner. Is Wiseman another kwame brown? 

Post#45 » by Mav_Carter » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:59 am

Wiseman’s reaction time and instincts are terrible...he literally went up to dunk the ball against the Raptors without the ball in his hand...fire all the scouts...
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Post#46 » by HiRez » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:21 pm

Mav_Carter wrote:Wiseman’s reaction time and instincts are terrible...he literally went up to dunk the ball against the Raptors without the ball in his hand...fire all the scouts...

Well, you're not wrong, I actually agree his reaction time and instincts are terrible. But I also believe they can get better. I mean he's here regardless and he's going to get a lot of playing time if he can keep himself out of foul trouble. I'm not convinced he's going to be a playoff-playable stud by the end of the year, but I also think it's unlikely he's going to be the same player he is now either. By season's end we should at least know what trajectory he's on, what things he needs to work on, and whether certain things are critical flaws or not.

I gotta say though, a player like Haliburton, Ball, Bey, Avdija might be a lot more useful to us in the short term. If Wiseman can just cure his fumble-itis and get rebounds like he should (probably 50% more than he gets), and learn to keep out of the way of our own players, then he'll be useful. Right now even though he does some cool things I have to say he's a bit more of a liability than a benefit.
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Post#47 » by Mylie10 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:40 pm

Short sided takes are for the people Draymond was referring to.

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Post#48 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:22 pm

The game moves too fast for all rookies. Most of his hands fumbles have been those kind of issues. Inventing a “rookie reaction time instincts” eye test to disparage is a huge crock of warm poop with bits of corn in it.

When the game slows down for him next year this is gonna look so stupid.
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Post#49 » by tarantism » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:38 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:The game moves too fast for all rookies. Most of his hands fumbles have been those kind of issues. Inventing a “rookie reaction time instincts” eye test to disparage is a huge crock of warm poop with bits of corn in it.

When the game slows down for him next year this is gonna look so stupid.
Yeah I was surprised that even Nate Duncan was getting down on him. He's a 19 yo center who came in super raw.

My mind practically exploded when he got down on Wiseman and then seemed high on LaMelo.

Would be funny if the OP was actually Duncan, actually.
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Post#50 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:19 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:The game moves too fast for all rookies. Most of his hands fumbles have been those kind of issues. Inventing a “rookie reaction time instincts” eye test to disparage is a huge crock of warm poop with bits of corn in it.

When the game slows down for him next year this is gonna look so stupid.


There's no doubt in my mind he's going to be a complete beast. True centers never really hit the ground running their rookie year. The one exception in recent times is Embiid, but he was 22 and had already been exposed to the NBA for 2 years.
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Post#51 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:25 pm

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Sleepy51 wrote:The game moves too fast for all rookies. Most of his hands fumbles have been those kind of issues. Inventing a “rookie reaction time instincts” eye test to disparage is a huge crock of warm poop with bits of corn in it.

When the game slows down for him next year this is gonna look so stupid.
Yeah I was surprised that even Nate Duncan was getting down on him. He's a 19 yo center who came in super raw.

My mind practically exploded when he got down on Wiseman and then seemed high on LaMelo.

Would be funny if the OP was actually Duncan, actually.


Content creators are aware of what YouTube and Facebook established. Negative takes generate clicks. The bias against optimism is palpable. Misery porn makes unhappy people less lonely I guess.
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Post#52 » by SAKURABA216 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:49 pm

Wiseman seems like a really nice and humble kid and he's on a team with a lot of veterans that are treating him like their little nephew. It would be nice if they took the training wheels off for once and let him play his game. Granted, he will foul out in about 5 minutes, but it could be 5 minutes of absolute brilliance!
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Post#53 » by Hopper15 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:55 pm

FNQ wrote:Cant we make this thread about crypto like the other one? So it can be a conversation worth having?

Any good hard wallet recommendations?
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Post#54 » by Mylie10 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:22 am

At some point he will just play and not be thinking. When that happens it’s on like Donkey Kong!!
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Post#55 » by FNQ » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:20 am

Hopper15 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Cant we make this thread about crypto like the other one? So it can be a conversation worth having?

Any good hard wallet recommendations?


I'm actually going retro with it.. while everyone is collecting crypto currency, I'm collecting spices from India and gold doubloons.. we'll see who has the last laugh and best seasoned food
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Post#56 » by michaelm » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:22 am

Mylie10 wrote:Short sided takes are for the people Draymond was referring to.

Hi Khoee!

Why on earth are people on the GSW board wishing for the kid to be other than great, which he will be, imo and yours.

(EDIT just read the first 2 pages of the thread. I can read rather quickly as it happens, but still resent the time it took).
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Post#57 » by shazam_guy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:14 pm

This thread is the equivalent (in bad takes and posters I've never seen) of turning on the lights in a New York apartment kitchen at night and watching things scurry away in all directions.

Funny! But even more creepy.
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Post#58 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:21 pm

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TD739 wrote:Number 2 should be an impact big man like alridge, Bosh, embiid, Rasheed Wallace, Jermaine o'neal. Looks we are not getting one


Maybe you should watch 10th pro game of each guy you mentioned here, than make your remarks. Not to mention, other than O'Neil (should check the spelling as well before you mention someone), every one on your list played college ball for 2 or 3 years. How many games Wiseman played in college. The most ridiculous post I had seen in a while.


Not to support TD739's lunacy, but Jermaine spells his name O'Neal not O'Neil.
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Post#59 » by TD739 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:09 pm

Wiseman will eventually be pretty decent but not a franchise player.

Two things I look for a franchise type big man

Rythmic footwork and soft touch around the rim.

Wiseman doesn't possess those two. They are innate qualities can't really be practiced.

But he will be a good center with decent defensive qualities and a lob threat
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Post#60 » by xdrta+ » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:12 pm

TD739 wrote:Wiseman will eventually be pretty decent but not a franchise player.

Two things I look for a franchise type big man

Rythmic footwork and soft touch around the rim.

Wiseman doesn't possess those two. They are innate qualities can't really be practiced.

But he will be a good center with decent defensive qualities and a lob threat


Innate? So people are born with a good touch around the rim? That's kind of a weird take.

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