Game 45 : Golden State Warriors (22-22) @ Sacramento Kings (19-25) - 10:00 PM

ILOVEIT · Post #121 » by **ILOVEIT** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:33 am

lol...at the most expensive NBA roster in the league....

Losing to Sac by 20...

Lacob can not be happy....I'm not...and I'm not spending an 80 million dollar tax bill for Kelly O.

Twinkie defense · Post #122 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:33 am

Old_Blue wrote:
Onus wrote:I don't get the nico love from a lot of people

Could it be because he looks like a garden gnome?

Nico looks good out there - and he just turned 20. Great second round pick by the Warriors.

WESCO · Post #123 » by **WESCO** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:34 am

Old_Blue wrote:
WESCO wrote:Not giving up on him. Have told myself that he needs a lot of time (3-4 years). The reality of today is Wiseman is hot trash.

Patience is the key. The first 4 years and $40 million on his rookie deal will all be spent teaching him the game. Then comes the five year $100 million plus extension covering years 5 through 9. By the time the 2030s roll around, Wiseman's got a chance to be a real contributor.

Yes and cars will drive themselves. We'll also have universal health care/income. And maybe just maybe the housing bubble will burst in the bay....

Twinkie defense · Post #124 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:36 am

ILOVEIT wrote:lol...at the most expensive NBA roster in the league....

Losing to Sac by 20...

Lacob can not be happy....I'm not...and I'm not spending an 80 million dollar tax bill for Kelly O.

Kings have a nice young backcourt and are playing better with Harrison Barnes at the four. Luke is a good coach. Warriors missing their top three players and had to throw together a lineup. What do you expect?

Old_Blue · Post #125 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:38 am

More attention needs to be paid to the good things Wiseman brings to the game. What did he do tonight that brings you hope for the future?

Onus · Post #126 » by **Onus** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:39 am

WESCO wrote:
Onus wrote:
WESCO wrote:Not giving up on him. Have told myself that he needs a lot of time (3-4 years). The reality of today is Wiseman is hot trash.

Yea I'm giving wiseman 4 years before i make any grand proclamations on him, but he's a long way from becoming an nba player
we really do need to practice patience. In 4 years he's still only 24. Players primes are 26-32. Just hoping I don't pull all my hair out before he's a finished product.

I just want to see progress from him. That's why I want them to have him focus on one thing get him used to doing one thing at an nba level at a time. Like let him focus on being an excellent screener. I want to see you hit someone on a screen at least once a game. None of this half assed screen where you're just standing there. Once he masters that then great let's focus on being in the dunker spot.

Onus · Post #127 » by **Onus** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:40 am

Old_Blue wrote:More attention needs to be paid to the good things Wiseman brings to the game. What did he do tonight that brings you hope for the future?

He had a good rebound in traffic

Twinkie defense · Post #128 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:44 am

Nico Manion taking advantage of his increased minutes. James Wiseman, not so much :oops:

Old_Blue · Post #129 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:46 am

I can already see it...James Wiseman is single-handedly going to turn an entire generation of Warriors fans into alcoholics.

Twinkie defense · Post #130 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:46 am

Twinkie defense wrote:Nico Manion taking advantage of his increased minutes. James Wiseman, not so much

I'm not worried about James Wiseman though. Need to have patience with the young big guy. He needs to have patience with himself, too - baby steps.

Twinkie defense · Post #131 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:49 am

ILOVEIT wrote:lol...at the most expensive NBA roster in the league....

Umm, missing three of their four most expensive players :roll:

But if you want to fret over whether Wiggins is worth $30 mil per year that's fair enough.

Twinkie defense · Post #132 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:53 am

Old_Blue wrote:More attention needs to be paid to the good things Wiseman brings to the game. What did he do tonight that brings you hope for the future?

Tonight? Nada. Most frustrating was how he looked dejected and was not giving maximum effort. He can have growing pains but I don't like the lackadaisical attitude and letting his poor play take from his effort.

northoakland510 · Post #133 » by **northoakland510** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:55 am

Onus wrote:
WESCO wrote:
Onus wrote:Yea I'm giving wiseman 4 years before i make any grand proclamations on him, but he's a long way from becoming an nba player
we really do need to practice patience. In 4 years he's still only 24. Players primes are 26-32. Just hoping I don't pull all my hair out before he's a finished product.

I just want to see progress from him. That's why I want them to have him focus on one thing get him used to doing one thing at an nba level at a time. Like let him focus on being an excellent screener. I want to see you hit someone on a screen at least once a game. None of this half assed screen where you're just standing there. Once he masters that then great let's focus on being in the dunker spot.

This is my issue with his development. When he is out there it seems like there is no plan. He has been throwing those type of screens all year and it doesn't seem like they have corrected it. He evens extends his arms at times when he doesn't get good contact.

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northoakland510 · Post #134 » by **northoakland510** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:56 am

Twinkie defense wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:More attention needs to be paid to the good things Wiseman brings to the game. What did he do tonight that brings you hope for the future?

Tonight? Nada. Most frustrating was how he looked dejected and was not giving maximum effort. He can have growing pains but I don't like the lackadaisical attitude and letting his poor play take from his effort.

I don't like it either, but he young. Playing center and running down the court while your teammates chuck up shots without passing is frustrating.

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Twinkie defense · Post #135 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:57 am

Onus wrote:
WESCO wrote:
Onus wrote:Yea I'm giving wiseman 4 years before i make any grand proclamations on him, but he's a long way from becoming an nba player
we really do need to practice patience. In 4 years he's still only 24. Players primes are 26-32. Just hoping I don't pull all my hair out before he's a finished product.

I just want to see progress from him. That's why I want them to have him focus on one thing get him used to doing one thing at an nba level at a time. Like let him focus on being an excellent screener. I want to see you hit someone on a screen at least once a game. None of this half assed screen where you're just standing there. Once he masters that then great let's focus on being in the dunker spot.

Wiseman cannot play in the flow of the offense, he needs to be spoon fed. I'm fine with some spoon feeding to help develop some go-to moves and keep his confidence up, but tonight - with no Draymond and no Steph, and outside of the confines of his recent paring with Manion and Poole - he was struggling big time.

Twinkie defense · Post #136 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:01 am

northoakland510 wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:More attention needs to be paid to the good things Wiseman brings to the game. What did he do tonight that brings you hope for the future?

Tonight? Nada. Most frustrating was how he looked dejected and was not giving maximum effort. He can have growing pains but I don't like the lackadaisical attitude and letting his poor play take from his effort.
I don't like it either, but he young. Playing center and running down the court while your teammates chuck up shots without passing is frustrating.

Probably also frustrating for Wisemans' teammates to watch him force up shots and turn the ball over.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #137 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:10 am

Warriors officially announce the Marquese Chriss trade after the game.

northoakland510 · Post #138 » by **northoakland510** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:13 am

Twinkie defense wrote:
northoakland510 wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Tonight? Nada. Most frustrating was how he looked dejected and was not giving maximum effort. He can have growing pains but I don't like the lackadaisical attitude and letting his poor play take from his effort.
I don't like it either, but he young. Playing center and running down the court while your teammates chuck up shots without passing is frustrating.
Probably also frustrating for Wisemans' teammates to watch him force up shots and turn the ball over.

The turnovers definitely hurt, just seems like he was pressing the issue after not touching the ball. He only took 8 shots that's not alot.

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cdubbz · Post #139 » by **cdubbz** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:41 am

Onus wrote:There should be a rule that wiseman can never post up

Wait — Wiseman knows how to post up?!

Crazy-Canuck · Post #140 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:35 am

Wiggins was jawing with the refs all night, especially in the 4th. Kerr actually took him out of the game after winning that challenge on Wiggs' phantom foul on Barnes. He was getting mugged in the paint without any calls. I dont think Ive ever seen him go at the refs like this before. Usually, its the " excuse me, what did I do and thank you" exchange with the refs.