Other than loyalty, what is there to keep Steph with the Warriors?

[KevinMcreynolds]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

[xdrta+]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

I know, people whine about "superteams," but when someone like Lillard, or now Steph, is on a non-contender, all you hear is 'they should leave so they can win a ring.' Go to the Lakers, get another ring.

[and1GS]

Other than loyalty, what is there to keep Damian Lillard with the Blazers?

[Onus]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

Steph just isn't some great player though. He has a chance to be a top 10 player of all time maybe even top 5. It's on the organization to give him that chance. The warriors are willing to pay for it but do they have the people in place to give him that chance? That's what people are wondering.

[SpreeChokeJob]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

Steph just isn't some great player though. He has a chance to be a top 10 player of all time maybe even top 5. It's on the organization to give him that chance. The warriors are willing to pay for it but do they have the people in place to give him that chance? That's what people are wondering.

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy. That’s for Lebron the egomaniac to lose sleep over. He seems like the type to play at the highest level and not surrounded by players who drive into three defenders. He wants to win and enjoy the process. At his age, don’t ask him to take over leading some fresh out of college teammates.

[Onus]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

Steph just isn't some great player though. He has a chance to be a top 10 player of all time maybe even top 5. It's on the organization to give him that chance. The warriors are willing to pay for it but do they have the people in place to give him that chance? That's what people are wondering.

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy. That’s for Lebron the egomaniac to lose sleep over. He seems like the type to play at the highest level and not surrounded by players who drive into three defenders. He wants to win and enjoy the process. At his age, don’t ask him to take over leading some fresh out of college teammates.

Yea Steph doesn't come off that way. But at the end of your argument you're essentially saying the same thing he shouldn't be on a team full of freshmen and g league talent

[GQ Hot Dog]

So tired of this new trend of when a great player is on a non-contender he has to move to a contender for MOAR RINGZ.

Steph just isn't some great player though. He has a chance to be a top 10 player of all time maybe even top 5. It's on the organization to give him that chance. The warriors are willing to pay for it but do they have the people in place to give him that chance? That's what people are wondering.

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy. That’s for Lebron the egomaniac to lose sleep over. He seems like the type to play at the highest level and not surrounded by players who drive into three defenders. He wants to win and enjoy the process. At his age, don’t ask him to take over leading some fresh out of college teammates.

I agree. We should all remember that Lebron's obsession with his "legacy" is abnormal and an ugly trait. It's unfortunate that KD has become infected by it and we should all hope it ends when Lebron retires. It seems clear that Steph is far more grounded and humble than the prior mentioned self-obsessed individuals which is one reason why it's great to be a Warriors fan and why we shouldn't be torturing ourselves which such neurotic topics of discussion.

[sonnyhill]

Money?

Yes?

I'm all good with Steph getting another max contract to stay with the Warriors; however, he also to step up his game to compete with LeBron and KD in the recruitment of stars to the Warriors, too (BTW, Steph has proven his ability in the past to do this, as he was part of the "Hampton Five" in their successful recruitment of KD to the Warriors). Steph has been given a pass by the media and us fans for being the "face of the franchise." It is now time for Steph to prove his worthiness to the Warriors (for a new max contract extension), start recruiting other stars to the team, and also step up his game in the playoffs, too!!!

We all want to see Steph retire as a Warrior, but not if the franchise is sucking wind as it strives towards entertaining mediocrity. Steph needs to get off his @ss and help rebuild the roster!

[WarriorGM]

Money?

Yes?

I'm all good with Steph getting another max contract to stay with the Warriors; however, he also to step up his game to compete with LeBron and KD in the recruitment of stars to the Warriors, too (BTW, Steph has proven his ability in the past to do this, as he was part of the "Hampton Five" in their successful recruitment of KD to the Warriors). Steph has been given a pass by the media and us fans for being the "face of the franchise." It is now time for Steph to prove his worthiness to the Warriors (for a new max contract extension), start recruiting other stars to the team, and also step up his game in the playoffs, too!!!

We all want to see Steph retire as a Warrior, but not if the franchise is sucking wind as it strives towards entertaining mediocrity. Steph needs to get off his @ss and help rebuild the roster!

Do you know the best way to recruit stars as a player? You beat them. Better if you're the underdog because that really impresses.

Second best is to make friends with them and have them sign up with your friend's talent agency.

Are there any other proven ways lately? Don't know.

The targeted stars need to be primed though. They need to be looking to move on from their current situation.

Steph is probably much weaker at the friendship thing because he's been more of a husband and family man than a party goer.

Front office really needs to step up. Maybe study how Morey was able to keep renewing the Rockets and now Sixers.

[shazam_guy]

Steph Curry, who works incredibly hard, is putting up an MVP-type season with little help, and turned this franchise from one of the all-time losers into a team that has to be discussed with the best ever, needs to "get off his ass" and do more?

Lord, give me strength.

[Old_Blue]

I agree. We should all remember that Lebron's obsession with his "legacy" is abnormal and an ugly trait. It's unfortunate that KD has become infected by it and we should all hope it ends when Lebron retires. It seems clear that Steph is far more grounded and humble than the prior mentioned self-obsessed individuals which is one reason why it's great to be a Warriors fan and why we shouldn't be torturing ourselves which such neurotic topics of discussion.

Nothing you describe is changing any time soon. Kawhi forced a trade, as did Harden. The use of player opt outs in contracts has increased. If anything, I think we're likely to see more player movement in the future. There's nothing "abnormal" or "ugly" about it. That's just free market capitalism.

[and1GS]

Steph doesn't need to 'step up' and do anything. He's done more than enough.

[sonnyhill]

Steph doesn't need to 'step up' and do anything. He's done more than enough.

Let's hope that Steph has more respect for the team and the fanbase than you do. It is not enough just to make the nightly ESPN highlight reel when you are the highest paid player on the team and are expected to lead the team towards competing for and winning championships. Leaders step up and do whatever it takes to improve their respective teams. If putting on his recruiting hat is too much for Steph, then it is time for the team to move on from him.

And, no, "he has not done more than enough." Enough is when the team is competing for and winning championships.

[sonnyhill]

I agree. We should all remember that Lebron's obsession with his "legacy" is abnormal and an ugly trait. It's unfortunate that KD has become infected by it and we should all hope it ends when Lebron retires. It seems clear that Steph is far more grounded and humble than the prior mentioned self-obsessed individuals which is one reason why it's great to be a Warriors fan and why we shouldn't be torturing ourselves which such neurotic topics of discussion.

Nothing you describe is changing any time soon. Kawhi forced a trade, as did Harden. The use of player opt outs in contracts has increased. If anything, I think we're likely to see more player movement in the future. There's nothing "abnormal" or "ugly" about it. That's just free market capitalism.

You are 100% correct.

Player mobility is part of today's game and the Warriors should not only benefit from this ecosystem; the Warriors should win in this ecosystem, too.

Great ownership group, new arena, large media market, great area of the country to live in, access to Silicon Valley, a recent legacy of competing for an winning championships should be leveraged as the team looks to improve its roster.

[WarriorGM]

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy.

Disagree. He would not have accomplished what he has if he wasn't driven and had a will to win. He did say the following: "I have a lot to accomplish. I don't have anything to prove." Fortunately for the Dubs he also said, "What drives me is just having fun. I truly love to play basketball. I'm just appreciative and grateful that it's at the highest level, and I get to kind of still pursue a higher level of excellence on the court." which kind of softens the edges. Maybe the prospect of leaving the Warriors won't make it fun anymore and makes it less likely he'd leave. But is he concerned with his legacy? Yes.

[xdrta+]

Steph doesn't need to 'step up' and do anything. He's done more than enough.

Let's hope that Steph has more respect for the team and the fanbase than you do. It is not enough just to make the nightly ESPN highlight reel when you are the highest paid player on the team and are expected to lead the team towards competing for and winning championships. Leaders step up and do whatever it takes to improve their respective teams. If putting on his recruiting had is too much for Steph, then it is time for the team to move on from him.

And, no, "he has not done more than enough." Enough is when the team is competing for and winning championships.

That's just silly. "Recruiting," whatever that means, is not a player's job. Management hires the players, pays the players, and decides how to staff the team. Saying any of that is a player's responsibility makes no sense.

[GQ Hot Dog]

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy.

Disagree. He would not have accomplished what he has if he wasn't driven and had a will to win. He did say the following: "I have a lot to accomplish. I don't have anything to prove." Fortunately for the Dubs he also said, "What drives me is just having fun. I truly love to play basketball. I'm just appreciative and grateful that it's at the highest level, and I get to kind of still pursue a higher level of excellence on the court." which kind of softens the edges. Maybe the prospect of leaving the Warriors won't make it fun anymore and makes it less likely he'd leave. But is he concerned with his legacy? Yes.

Legacy doesn't drive Steph. Championships and the lofting of trophies drive Steph. Legacy is not something he's in control of, he's only in control of his own play. Steph's smart enough to know there's no point caring about the things he can't control. He can control what he does on the court, he can't control what people say about it after the fact.

[WarriorGM]

He doesn’t strike me as someone who cares about legacy.

Disagree. He would not have accomplished what he has if he wasn't driven and had a will to win. He did say the following: "I have a lot to accomplish. I don't have anything to prove." Fortunately for the Dubs he also said, "What drives me is just having fun. I truly love to play basketball. I'm just appreciative and grateful that it's at the highest level, and I get to kind of still pursue a higher level of excellence on the court." which kind of softens the edges. Maybe the prospect of leaving the Warriors won't make it fun anymore and makes it less likely he'd leave. But is he concerned with his legacy? Yes.

Legacy doesn't drive Steph. Championships and the lofting of trophies drive Steph. Legacy is not something he's in control of, he's only in control of his own play. Steph's smart enough to know there's no point caring about the things he can't control. He can control what he does on the court, he can't control what people say about it after the fact.

Championships, excellence, and staying with one team are all bound up in legacy.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I agree. We should all remember that Lebron's obsession with his "legacy" is abnormal and an ugly trait. It's unfortunate that KD has become infected by it and we should all hope it ends when Lebron retires. It seems clear that Steph is far more grounded and humble than the prior mentioned self-obsessed individuals which is one reason why it's great to be a Warriors fan and why we shouldn't be torturing ourselves which such neurotic topics of discussion.

Nothing you describe is changing any time soon. Kawhi forced a trade, as did Harden. The use of player opt outs in contracts has increased. If anything, I think we're likely to see more player movement in the future. There's nothing "abnormal" or "ugly" about it. That's just free market capitalism.

That's not what's abnormal and ugly. It's Lebron's obsession with trying to shape how people think and feel about him now and in the future that's abnormal and ugly. And Steph couldn't care less about that crap.

Steph plays to secure his and his family's financial future, because he loves to play the game and because he loves to compete. In short he does it all for himself and for all of us that derive joy from watching him on court.

As for free market capitalism, in this era of global capitalism's crisis it's ugly, abnormal, anti-social and crumbling around us. But I'm not sure how that's relevant to this discussion.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Disagree. He would not have accomplished what he has if he wasn't driven and had a will to win. He did say the following: "I have a lot to accomplish. I don't have anything to prove." Fortunately for the Dubs he also said, "What drives me is just having fun. I truly love to play basketball. I'm just appreciative and grateful that it's at the highest level, and I get to kind of still pursue a higher level of excellence on the court." which kind of softens the edges. Maybe the prospect of leaving the Warriors won't make it fun anymore and makes it less likely he'd leave. But is he concerned with his legacy? Yes.

Legacy doesn't drive Steph. Championships and the lofting of trophies drive Steph. Legacy is not something he's in control of, he's only in control of his own play. Steph's smart enough to know there's no point caring about the things he can't control. He can control what he does on the court, he can't control what people say about it after the fact.

Championships, excellence, and staying with one team are all bound up in legacy.

Others will be responsible for shaping his so-called legacy. It's always been that way and always will be.

Steph should keep his focus on the court and led Bob Myers handle the rest.