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Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 3:34 am
by Mob Byers
I actually think we could use whatever exception we have for free agency on DeRozan. He's 31, made $175 million, and wants to win. Especially after he left and the Raptors won. Good friends with Steph.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 5:05 am
by xdrta+
Mob Byers wrote:I actually think we could use whatever exception we have for free agency on DeRozan. He's 31, made $175 million, and wants to win. Especially after he left and the Raptors won. Good friends with Steph.


Will he sign for under $6M? Because that's what they have, the taxpayer MLE.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 5:08 am
by Mob Byers
xdrta+ wrote:
Mob Byers wrote:I actually think we could use whatever exception we have for free agency on DeRozan. He's 31, made $175 million, and wants to win. Especially after he left and the Raptors won. Good friends with Steph.


Will he sign for under $6M? Because that's what they have, the taxpayer MLE.


Stranger things have happened. Like KD joining this team. Obviously it all depends on his options and his desires.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 4:44 pm
by cpower
Mob Byers wrote:I actually think we could use whatever exception we have for free agency on DeRozan. He's 31, made $175 million, and wants to win. Especially after he left and the Raptors won. Good friends with Steph.

he will sign if we get a big name player first. He wont be the first to jump ship for sure

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 4:57 pm
by and1GS
DeMar is actually fairly realistic. I'm sure the Spurs will work with him to get him to a preferable destination and he would likely start with us (at least until Klay is fully back). Pick and the TPE? Probably not realistic, but hey we can dream.

lol at he will sign if we get a big name player first. DeMar IS the big name player. Why would he need KD to sign before he joins? He's still producing at a high level (counting stats wise) and I doubt he's sitting there saying 'man if only there was a way to cut down my shots a game by two thirds...' I'd imagine the bigger pre-req to him going anywhere would be keeping his shot total (15) more or less the same. He's not signing anywhere to be Barbosa, he's hoping to be Tobias Harris. That doesn't happen if he's tied as the fourth option with Andrew Wiggins.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 5:35 pm
by ChuckDurn
and1GS wrote:DeMar is actually fairly realistic. I'm sure the Spurs will work with him to get him to a preferable destination and he would likely start with us (at least until Klay is fully back). Pick and the TPE? Probably not realistic, but hey we can dream.

lol at he will sign if we get a big name player first. DeMar IS the big name player. Why would he need KD to sign before he joins? He's still producing at a high level (counting stats wise) and I doubt he's sitting there saying 'man if only there was a way to cut down my shots a game by two thirds...' I'd imagine the bigger pre-req to him going anywhere would be keeping his shot total (15) more or less the same. He's not signing anywhere to be Barbosa, he's hoping to be Tobias Harris. That doesn't happen if he's tied as the fourth option with Andrew Wiggins.

I see DeRozan more as a 3 than a 2 (particularly given his aversion to shooting 3's), and more of a complement to Steph and Klay than as a guy who would be satisfied being a third wing after Klay and Wiggins (once Klay is healthy).

In other words...... I could see him as a guy who might be interested signing for the taxpayer MLE if Wiggins isn't in his way, because he's been traded. If the Warriors have discussed with DeRozan the possibility of coming into that salary slot (as the starting SF), that might make them more likely to pull the trigger on a deal such as Wiggins/Wiseman/draft pick(s) for Siakam, or something similar.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 6:24 pm
by Mob Byers
cpower wrote:
Mob Byers wrote:I actually think we could use whatever exception we have for free agency on DeRozan. He's 31, made $175 million, and wants to win. Especially after he left and the Raptors won. Good friends with Steph.

he will sign if we get a big name player first. He wont be the first to jump ship for sure


Interesting opinion but I don't think we have the finances to bring in Kawaii or Ibaka, the only other FA "big names" I see.

and1GS wrote:DeMar is actually fairly realistic. I'm sure the Spurs will work with him to get him to a preferable destination and he would likely start with us (at least until Klay is fully back). Pick and the TPE? Probably not realistic, but hey we can dream.

lol at he will sign if we get a big name player first. DeMar IS the big name player. Why would he need KD to sign before he joins? He's still producing at a high level (counting stats wise) and I doubt he's sitting there saying 'man if only there was a way to cut down my shots a game by two thirds...' I'd imagine the bigger pre-req to him going anywhere would be keeping his shot total (15) more or less the same. He's not signing anywhere to be Barbosa, he's hoping to be Tobias Harris. That doesn't happen if he's tied as the fourth option with Andrew Wiggins.


DeMar is a free agent and I don't think we can bring him in via S&T. Unless we S&T Oubre for a TPE and then use that to bring in a DeRozan via S&T. Not sure that works though, pretty sure we don't have a lot of flexibility.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 4:09 am
by wupuck
xdrta+ wrote:DeRozan is a FA this offseason. The Warriors can send out a player in a S&T, but they can't receive one.


Yeah I know he's a UFA but I'm not sure he'd take a Mid level to play for a maybe championship contender unless Curry is a heck of a sweet talker; which was why I said maybe an Oubre S&T.

But that's also me not knowing the cap situation other than I know its bad.

So basically because they're so far over that there would be no way they could do a S&T w/ Oubre as that leaves them still over the Tax threshold correct? That would also mean the only way they could manage a S&T is if Wiggins is the other party going since he has a pretty large salary as well I take it? And I don't see that as a viable option either since At least Wiggins can make a 3

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 4:41 am
by ahmetmekin
Lebron for wiggins. Who says no?

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 4:51 am
by wupuck
ahmetmekin wrote:Lebron for wiggins. Who says no?


No

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 6:21 am
by killmongrel
I would be going after:

Nic Batum
Reggie Bullock
Kelly Olynyk
Serge Ibaka
Andre Iguodala
Doug McDermott

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 6:25 am
by ahmetmekin
killmongrel wrote:I would be going after:

Nic Batum
Reggie Bullock
Kelly Olynyk
Serge Ibaka
Andre Iguodala
Doug McDermott

Batum would be fantastic, Ibaka too but he has a po. Iggy for min is a good option.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 6:31 am
by killmongrel
ahmetmekin wrote:
killmongrel wrote:I would be going after:

Nic Batum
Reggie Bullock
Kelly Olynyk
Serge Ibaka
Andre Iguodala
Doug McDermott

Batum would be fantastic, Ibaka too but he has a po. Iggy for min is a good option.
Agreed. Some other guys I forgot about are Snell as well as McConnell.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 7:02 am
by Upperclass
DeRozan would be perfect. He's basically Wiggins with better playmaking all of the sudden

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 7:03 am
by killmongrel
Upperclass wrote:DeRozan would be perfect. He's basically Wiggins with better playmaking all of the sudden


But no defense though.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 10:50 am
by SAKURABA216
killmongrel wrote:
Upperclass wrote:DeRozan would be perfect. He's basically Wiggins with better playmaking all of the sudden


But no defense though.


He's also a horrible 3-point shooter so it would be interesting to see how Kerr would use him if we ever got him on this team.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:38 pm
by Scoots1994
ahmetmekin wrote:Lebron for wiggins. Who says no?


LeBron.

And me.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:40 pm
by Scoots1994
killmongrel wrote:I would be going after:

Nic Batum
Reggie Bullock
Kelly Olynyk
Serge Ibaka
Andre Iguodala
Doug McDermott


Iguodala should come to coach not to play.

Olynyk would be perfect. Batum I like a lot too.

TJ McConnell would be good too.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:43 pm
by Scoots1994
SAKURABA216 wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
Upperclass wrote:DeRozan would be perfect. He's basically Wiggins with better playmaking all of the sudden


But no defense though.


He's also a horrible 3-point shooter so it would be interesting to see how Kerr would use him if we ever got him on this team.


At least he KNOWS he's not a 3 pt shooter so he's not jacking them up all the time.

Kerr is fine with the mid-range game. He makes that middle area need to be defended so in the motion offense he could create more good shot opportunities.

That said, his defense is below average and that would be a massive pay cut.

If he joins the team I will cheer him.

Re: What players should the Warriors go after next season

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:27 pm
by weekend_warrior
But then you need to let DeRozan handle the ball. Why would you do this over a Green&Curry combo? Or even if you think that DeRozan&Curry would be fine together (could work!), what do you do with Green?

It is the same story with Butler...

Warriors just have no use for another high-USG non-shooting player with big ego and salary.