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Post#121 » by marthafokker » Fri Jun 4, 2021 8:03 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:I bet the Lakers are SERIOUSLY thinking of blowing this up now.....
Maybe AD on the Warriors as a 3rd option behind Curry and Klay would work better than him as a first option on Lakers with a 37 year old LeBron?


Them blowing up is worse than resigning everyone back.

With all the #1 picks and pick swaps. They are giving all the lottery picks to Pelicans if they blow it up.

So they will suck for nothing. I think they rather be a fringe playoff team like end of this season.
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Post#122 » by xdrta+ » Fri Jun 4, 2021 10:03 pm

wco81 wrote:I think they can get rid of Schroder and Harrell's salaries. Harrell has a player option.

Schroeder is UFA.

So potentially $25-26 million in salaries off the books.

Drummon, Morris, Caruso, Matthews, Dudley and McElmore are also UFAs. So combined, that's another $10-11 million in salaries which would come off their books.

Of course, if they re-sign some of them or replace them, those salaries would go back.

THT is an RFA. He might be able to get more than a minimum deal, as he gets a lot of coverage, even if he hasn't produced high efficiency in his shooting, though he can create shots for himself.

Gasol, who's fallen out of favor, is on the books for $2.7 million next year but his salary could be used for a trade.

Let's see how active they are in the trade market or trying to sign some ring chasers in the FA market.

I wouldn't pronounce them out of the contention window like Stephen A Smith just did.


The projected cap for next year is about $112M. Even if the Lakers renounce every FA, dump Gasol's salary, and Harrell declines his $9.7M option (don't count on it) they still have 4 guaranteed salaries totaling $102.5M. Add in Deng's $5M dead money, 6 roster charges @ about $1.6M each, and they're already over the cap with only 5 players (includes their draft pick) on the roster. They are capped out without a doubt.

That's not to say they're out of contention. They still have two great players to build around (just like the Warriors.)
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Post#123 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:29 am

marthafokker wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:I bet the Lakers are SERIOUSLY thinking of blowing this up now.....
Maybe AD on the Warriors as a 3rd option behind Curry and Klay would work better than him as a first option on Lakers with a 37 year old LeBron?


Them blowing up is worse than resigning everyone back.

With all the #1 picks and pick swaps. They are giving all the lottery picks to Pelicans if they blow it up.

So they will suck for nothing. I think they rather be a fringe playoff team like end of this season.


They essentially can't blow it up. LeBron and AD are not leaving.
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Post#124 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 1:22 am

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wco81 wrote:I think they can get rid of Schroder and Harrell's salaries. Harrell has a player option.

Schroeder is UFA.

So potentially $25-26 million in salaries off the books.

Drummon, Morris, Caruso, Matthews, Dudley and McElmore are also UFAs. So combined, that's another $10-11 million in salaries which would come off their books.

Of course, if they re-sign some of them or replace them, those salaries would go back.

THT is an RFA. He might be able to get more than a minimum deal, as he gets a lot of coverage, even if he hasn't produced high efficiency in his shooting, though he can create shots for himself.

Gasol, who's fallen out of favor, is on the books for $2.7 million next year but his salary could be used for a trade.

Let's see how active they are in the trade market or trying to sign some ring chasers in the FA market.

I wouldn't pronounce them out of the contention window like Stephen A Smith just did.


The projected cap for next year is about $112M. Even if the Lakers renounce every FA, dump Gasol's salary, and Harrell declines his $9.7M option (don't count on it) they still have 4 guaranteed salaries totaling $102.5M. Add in Deng's $5M dead money, 6 roster charges @ about $1.6M each, and they're already over the cap with only 5 players (includes their draft pick) on the roster. They are capped out without a doubt.

That's not to say they're out of contention. They still have two great players to build around (just like the Warriors.)


That pretty much matches what I was thinking. Only 6 roster charges?
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Post#125 » by xdrta+ » Sat Jun 5, 2021 1:55 am

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xdrta+ wrote:
wco81 wrote:I think they can get rid of Schroder and Harrell's salaries. Harrell has a player option.

Schroeder is UFA.

So potentially $25-26 million in salaries off the books.

Drummon, Morris, Caruso, Matthews, Dudley and McElmore are also UFAs. So combined, that's another $10-11 million in salaries which would come off their books.

Of course, if they re-sign some of them or replace them, those salaries would go back.

THT is an RFA. He might be able to get more than a minimum deal, as he gets a lot of coverage, even if he hasn't produced high efficiency in his shooting, though he can create shots for himself.

Gasol, who's fallen out of favor, is on the books for $2.7 million next year but his salary could be used for a trade.

Let's see how active they are in the trade market or trying to sign some ring chasers in the FA market.

I wouldn't pronounce them out of the contention window like Stephen A Smith just did.


The projected cap for next year is about $112M. Even if the Lakers renounce every FA, dump Gasol's salary, and Harrell declines his $9.7M option (don't count on it) they still have 4 guaranteed salaries totaling $102.5M. Add in Deng's $5M dead money, 6 roster charges @ about $1.6M each, and they're already over the cap with only 5 players (includes their draft pick) on the roster. They are capped out without a doubt.

That's not to say they're out of contention. They still have two great players to build around (just like the Warriors.)


That pretty much matches what I was thinking. Only 6 roster charges?


The roster charge applies to the number of players below 12 that are included in the team salary. The Lakers would have the 4 we mentioned, Deng, and their 1st round pick, all included in team salary, leaving six empty roster spots.

The pick, #22 I believe, is included at 120% of the rookie scale, as soon as he's selected in the draft.
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Post#126 » by GSWFan1994 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 2:52 am

I just don't understand why the Lakers don't put more shooters around LeBron & Davis.
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Post#127 » by marthafokker » Sat Jun 5, 2021 4:05 am

Luka the choke?

He better finish the Clips, or I will start calling him that.
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Post#128 » by cpower » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:10 am

harden is hurt, its all wide open now. I think the suns have a great chance, so it Jazz. 76ers, Nets are missing the main man.
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Post#129 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:29 am

GSWFan1994 wrote:I just don't understand why the Lakers don't put more shooters around LeBron & Davis.


LeBron doesn't like shooters?

Really, if you look at the players he's lobbied for at his various playing locations he tends to champion athletes who are just okay (or bad) shooters over shooters who are lesser athletes, and the great athletes who are great shooters are generally way too expensive and hard to get already.
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Post#130 » by cpower » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:06 am

bucks are not a good team offensively, if they lose to hardenless Nets I think we have to recruit Giannis....
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Post#131 » by Frozzy » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:05 am

I have no faith in any of these teams left beating the Nets. Oh well...
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Post#132 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 5:21 am

Frozzy wrote:I have no faith in any of these teams left beating the Nets. Oh well...


Irving and Griffin are very inconsistent.
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Post#133 » by HiRez » Sun Jun 6, 2021 5:59 am

marthafokker wrote:Luka the choke?

Not Choluka, only at Taco Bell?
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Post#134 » by superunknown » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:51 pm

I still don't get how is possible to use the greek freak offensively the way coach bud does.
you have a guy who is potentially unstoppable once he's served in motion attacking the paint and you still have him attacking from a standing start majority of times. he should never get the ball at the top of the key behind the 3 points line, that's nonsense, if he has to go 1v1 from a standing start he should get the ball at least from the elbow not any further than that.
ideally, he should get fed the way amare stoudamire was in phoenix, pick&roll, cutting from the weak side, logo pick, drags, curls. he's almost never fed this way, it's idiotic. there's literally no one on BRK roster who can guard him 1vs1 in the paint. even if they put KD on him from the post or the elbow he'd likely collect 3 fouls in 3 minutes.
it seems to me the biggest problem in milwakee is the coach.
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Post#135 » by wco81 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 5:57 pm

Wow Sixers down over 20 to the Hawks in the first half. Embiid is playing.
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Post#136 » by weekend_warrior » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:05 pm

Interesting POs so far. I see quite a struggle for teams without an offensive hub, especially when having no dynamic scoring game from their main ballhandlers.

1. GSW you could even add here. Green with a terrible scoring season, being a non-threat, has maybe cost the Warriors a PO berth. (There were other reasons too, of course.)
2. Clippers: no real point guard, struggling with the much less talented Mavs and Doncic.
3. Heat: Butler is their main guy. No shooting threat at all. Flamed out in a sweep.
4. Bucks: Won against terrible Heat. Now lost their first game badly against the Nets without Harden. Don't have a clear cur offensive top guy (Giannis isn't it).
5. Philly: Won quite easily against bad Wizards. Now struggling mightily in their first game with Ben Simmons being their PG. Trae is playing really well for the Hawks.
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Post#137 » by Sam Lowry Jr » Sun Jun 6, 2021 7:39 pm

The ending of this Sixers/Hawks game reminds me of our late game meltdown against the Spurs in game 1 of the 2013 playoffs. Luckily for the Hawks, they will win.
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Post#138 » by wco81 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:19 pm

Wow 38-35 first quarter in game 7 of Mavs-Clippers.

Neither team could stop each other.

Which team is going to blink or cool off?
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Post#139 » by marthafokker » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:33 pm

I love Boban getting a run.

I still wish Myers would have signed him during KD run.
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Post#140 » by marthafokker » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:47 pm

Man, the unicorn is exactly that. His game is like a unicorn, fake.

He is a shell of himself. NYK won that trade. Hahaha.
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