Joe Lacob says he is not trading Wiseman

[cpower]

"Very unlikely," Warriors owner Joe Lacob said on The TK Show podcast with The Athletic's Tim Kawakami. "It would take a lot to make me and Bob think about doing anything like that. People who talk like that -- they don't understand the cap [and] they don't understand the economics of the NBA.

"We need young players under good contracts to intersperse with what is already the highest payroll in the history of the NBA ... you just can't keep adding the luxury tax [and] the repeater [tax]. It's not possible. It's just not possible ... we have to sort of try to bridge a gap between now and the future."

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looks like Bob is the puppet. I would not be surprised if next season is Curry's last season with us.

[KevinMcreynolds]

we can't pay 350 million every year, dawg

[whatisacenter]

Sounds like common sense to me and the obvious strategy.

[cpower]

we can't pay 350 million every year, dawg

well we could have gotten Danny Green, Crowder, Morris , Jackson , Roco..for cheap but we wanted Wiggins and Oubre

[whatisacenter]

we can't pay 350 million every year, dawg

well we could have gotten Danny Green, Crowder, Morris , Jackson , Roco..for cheap but we wanted Wiggins and Oubre

Statements like this one based on nothing close to facts make me realize that it’s a waste of time to reply to some posters.

[RichmondWarrior]

Can’t trade trash for trash

[Currygoat]

The front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. I guess Steph prime will be waisted because we want to develop drafts picks smh

[GSWFan1994]

Some people think GMing is like building a super team on the NBA 2K videogames.

[sonnyhill]

The front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. I guess Steph prime will be waisted because we want to develop drafts picks smh

The Warriors have hit pretty well on draft picks who contributed in their rookie years (Barry, Joe Ellis, Derrek Dickey, Wilkes, Phil Smith, Gus Williams, Carroll, Richmond, Hardaway, Sprewell, Webber, Joe Smith, Richardson, Curry, Thompson, Green and Barnes) as well as failed in many (I won't go into this list; it is too depressing).

Can the Warriors properly evaluate talent and develop that talent to become NBA caliber players who can contribute during Curry's prime window? If so, then we roll the dice and go with the plan. If not, then the team has to seriously consider trading Curry asap for a huge haul of assets (draft picks, expiring contracts, etc.).

[killmongrel]

I mean, he can't just come out and say they want to trade him.

[Scoots1994]

Sounds like common sense to me and the obvious strategy.

And what they said last year before taking Wiseman, and what they said before tanking a season to get him.

Draft assets for cheap talent to mix with the older vets.

[Scoots1994]

The front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. I guess Steph prime will be waisted because we want to develop drafts picks smh

The Warriors have hit pretty well on draft picks who contributed in their rookie years (Barry, Joe Ellis, Derrek Dickey, Wilkes, Phil Smith, Gus Williams, Carroll, Richmond, Hardaway, Sprewell, Webber, Joe Smith, Richardson, Curry, Thompson, Green and Barnes) as well as failed in many (I won't go into this list; it is too depressing).

Can the Warriors properly evaluate talent and develop that talent to become NBA caliber players who can contribute during Curry's prime window? If so, then we roll the dice and go with the plan. If not, then the team has to seriously consider trading Curry asap for a huge haul of assets (draft picks, expiring contracts, etc.).

You list Green and Thompson as players who contributed as rookies ... did a quick compare of their rookie years to Wiseman's.

Klay on his 21 year old rookie year vs Wiseman's 19 year old rookie year per 36 isn't far off.

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=thompkl01&p1yrfrom=2012&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Green's 22 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=greendr01&p1yrfrom=2013&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Just for the heck of it here is Joe Smith's 20 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=smithjo02&p1yrfrom=1996&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

It takes time for most rookies to contribute significantly to winning. We'll see.

[sonnyhill]

The front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. I guess Steph prime will be waisted because we want to develop drafts picks smh

The Warriors have hit pretty well on draft picks who contributed in their rookie years (Barry, Joe Ellis, Derrek Dickey, Wilkes, Phil Smith, Gus Williams, Carroll, Richmond, Hardaway, Sprewell, Webber, Joe Smith, Richardson, Curry, Thompson, Green and Barnes) as well as failed in many (I won't go into this list; it is too depressing).

Can the Warriors properly evaluate talent and develop that talent to become NBA caliber players who can contribute during Curry's prime window? If so, then we roll the dice and go with the plan. If not, then the team has to seriously consider trading Curry asap for a huge haul of assets (draft picks, expiring contracts, etc.).

You list Green and Thompson as players who contributed as rookies ... did a quick compare of their rookie years to Wiseman's.

Klay on his 21 year old rookie year vs Wiseman's 19 year old rookie year per 36 isn't far off.

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=thompkl01&p1yrfrom=2012&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Green's 22 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=greendr01&p1yrfrom=2013&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Just for the heck of it here is Joe Smith's 20 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=smithjo02&p1yrfrom=1996&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

It takes time for most rookies to contribute significantly to winning. We'll see.

While the Wiseman pick has become a hot topic of discussion on this board, no one can argue that jettisoning him now in a trade pretty much ensures that the Warriors will not be getting great value in return.

Can the team come up with a viable plan to develop the kid so that he is not a liability on the defensive end of the floor and so that he can become a better rebounder? Big question mark, for sure...

Is anyone else on the board concerned with Wiseman's poor decision making skills, especially when he decides to both lead as well as finish the break in crowded traffic?

Let's hope that the kid gets healthy and that he and the coaching staff can get his game to improve.

[azwfan]

The Warriors have hit pretty well on draft picks who contributed in their rookie years (Barry, Joe Ellis, Derrek Dickey, Wilkes, Phil Smith, Gus Williams, Carroll, Richmond, Hardaway, Sprewell, Webber, Joe Smith, Richardson, Curry, Thompson, Green and Barnes) as well as failed in many (I won't go into this list; it is too depressing).

Can the Warriors properly evaluate talent and develop that talent to become NBA caliber players who can contribute during Curry's prime window? If so, then we roll the dice and go with the plan. If not, then the team has to seriously consider trading Curry asap for a huge haul of assets (draft picks, expiring contracts, etc.).

You list Green and Thompson as players who contributed as rookies ... did a quick compare of their rookie years to Wiseman's.

Klay on his 21 year old rookie year vs Wiseman's 19 year old rookie year per 36 isn't far off.

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=thompkl01&p1yrfrom=2012&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Green's 22 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=greendr01&p1yrfrom=2013&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

Just for the heck of it here is Joe Smith's 20 year old rookie year

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=smithjo02&p1yrfrom=1996&player_id2=wisemja01&p2yrfrom=2021

It takes time for most rookies to contribute significantly to winning. We'll see.

While the Wiseman pick has become a hot topic of discussion on this board, no one can argue that jettisoning him now in a trade pretty much ensures that the Warriors will not be getting great value in return.

Can the team come up with a viable plan to develop the kid so that he is not a liability on the defensive end of the floor and so that he can become a better rebounder? Big question mark, for sure...

Is anyone else on the board concerned with Wiseman's poor decision making skills, especially when he decides to both lead as well as finish the break in crowded traffic?

Let's hope that the kid gets healthy and that he and the coaching staff can get his game to improve.

Not really concerned right now. Get back to me around training camp though.

I thought Wiseman had a pretty poor rookie season. But given the following:

Hadn't played organized ball in over a year, no training camp, limited practices due to condensed schedule and injuries (and just the lack of practices during a regular season)... I don't know not too worried about how out of water he looked.

Much more concerned with his health right now.

[EvanZ]

Read on Twitter

You guys keep defending the man and pretending like he isn't the one making all the decisions.

Now we're gonna waste the last few years of Steph's career on Lacob's vision of the future.

[EvanZ]

The front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. I guess Steph prime will be waisted because we want to develop drafts picks smh

The Warriors have hit pretty well on draft picks who contributed in their rookie years (Barry, Joe Ellis, Derrek Dickey, Wilkes, Phil Smith, Gus Williams, Carroll, Richmond, Hardaway, Sprewell, Webber, Joe Smith, Richardson, Curry, Thompson, Green and Barnes) as well as failed in many (I won't go into this list; it is too depressing).

There's a huge difference between 18- or 19-year old rookies in the high school or OAD era than 30 or 40 years ago when guys finished college before getting drafted.

[Scoots1994]

While the Wiseman pick has become a hot topic of discussion on this board, no one can argue that jettisoning him now in a trade pretty much ensures that the Warriors will not be getting great value in return.

Can the team come up with a viable plan to develop the kid so that he is not a liability on the defensive end of the floor and so that he can become a better rebounder? Big question mark, for sure...

Is anyone else on the board concerned with Wiseman's poor decision making skills, especially when he decides to both lead as well as finish the break in crowded traffic?

Let's hope that the kid gets healthy and that he and the coaching staff can get his game to improve.

I thought it was clear he was mentally swimming on a regular basis in the games. I put it down to a couple things, primarily he's basically straight from high school, then no off-season, then a compressed season with very limited practice time, then, bizarrely he gets the start and that pressure to perform right away like a starter on a quality team.

I expect a big step forward, but he's still going to struggle at times.

[northoakland510]

After watching defensive players like Gobert and Embiid getting taken advantage of on defense; it actually makes me feel better about improvements Wiseman can make.

[Sleepy51]

"Very unlikely," Warriors owner Joe Lacob said on The TK Show podcast with The Athletic's Tim Kawakami. "It would take a lot to make me and Bob think about doing anything like that. People who talk like that -- they don't understand the cap [and] they don't understand the economics of the NBA.

"We need young players under good contracts to intersperse with what is already the highest payroll in the history of the NBA ... you just can't keep adding the luxury tax [and] the repeater [tax]. It's not possible. It's just not possible ... we have to sort of try to bridge a gap between now and the future."

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looks like Bob is the puppet. I would not be surprised if next season is Curry's last season with us.

What is the upside of declaring that Wiseman is available? Is a 20 year old rookie project coming off a meniscus repair likely to inspire a bidding war or something? Why on earth would Lacob say anything different?
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[GSWFan1994]

I have something important to post here... but hold on guys, I just need to finish setting up my Twitter account.