So what do the Warriors do now with the #7 and #14 picks?

[killmongrel]

I'd seriously consider moving the 14 for 22/23 if that option was available.. but thats mainly because I'm locked in on Moody at 7 and cant help but notice that the majority of value picks in the 14 range are either wings or raw big men (Kai Jones, lookin at you)

There are a lot of ready now/limited upside players that I think fit well with us that are worthy late 1sts..
Chris Duarte - if we dont take a wing early, would be a great plug and play
Daishen Nix - kid has handles, vision, and plays solid defense
Charles Bassey - big bruising C that rebounds like he's starving, decent defender, little else (think Gafford from WSH, who I guess I'm still bitter about not pursuing)
Jeremiah Robinson - (see Bassey)

I really just dont want to see a non-shooting wing added at 14. I think thats the easiest thing to find in the G-League these days.. maybe 2nd easiest behind short SG that has to play PG in the NBA

Why not just draft Moody and Duarte?

[marthafokker]

Playoff P choke tonight. Maybe the door is opened still?

[killmongrel]

Playoff P choke tonight. Maybe the door is opened still?

Nah. Kawhi getting injured gave the Clippers all the excuse they needed to run it back next year unfortunately.

[FNQ]

I'd seriously consider moving the 14 for 22/23 if that option was available.. but thats mainly because I'm locked in on Moody at 7 and cant help but notice that the majority of value picks in the 14 range are either wings or raw big men (Kai Jones, lookin at you)

There are a lot of ready now/limited upside players that I think fit well with us that are worthy late 1sts..
Chris Duarte - if we dont take a wing early, would be a great plug and play
Daishen Nix - kid has handles, vision, and plays solid defense
Charles Bassey - big bruising C that rebounds like he's starving, decent defender, little else (think Gafford from WSH, who I guess I'm still bitter about not pursuing)
Jeremiah Robinson - (see Bassey)

I really just dont want to see a non-shooting wing added at 14. I think thats the easiest thing to find in the G-League these days.. maybe 2nd easiest behind short SG that has to play PG in the NBA

Why not just draft Moody and Duarte?

Too much of the same thing. I have our 3 biggest needs as a 3&D wing, a backup ballhandler (any position), and a rebounding/defending big, in no particular order. So I'm looking at guys who address the need while not creating alternate issues, and I'm also favoring NBA-ready types.. but I dont want to double dip on the same need, which I think Moody/Duarte would do. I also question Duarte's defensive potential at the NBA level

Still a believe in Poole's 6th man ability so I think we have 3 wing positions already semi-locked down in Klay/Wiggins/Poole.. if we draft Moody thats 4, and between those 4, there's not much wiggle room in making them PGs or PFs.. and doing so would affect one of our other needs of ballhandling/rebounding.

[killmongrel]

I'd seriously consider moving the 14 for 22/23 if that option was available.. but thats mainly because I'm locked in on Moody at 7 and cant help but notice that the majority of value picks in the 14 range are either wings or raw big men (Kai Jones, lookin at you)

There are a lot of ready now/limited upside players that I think fit well with us that are worthy late 1sts..
Chris Duarte - if we dont take a wing early, would be a great plug and play
Daishen Nix - kid has handles, vision, and plays solid defense
Charles Bassey - big bruising C that rebounds like he's starving, decent defender, little else (think Gafford from WSH, who I guess I'm still bitter about not pursuing)
Jeremiah Robinson - (see Bassey)

I really just dont want to see a non-shooting wing added at 14. I think thats the easiest thing to find in the G-League these days.. maybe 2nd easiest behind short SG that has to play PG in the NBA

Why not just draft Moody and Duarte?

Too much of the same thing. I have our 3 biggest needs as a 3&D wing, a backup ballhandler (any position), and a rebounding/defending big, in no particular order. So I'm looking at guys who address the need while not creating alternate issues, and I'm also favoring NBA-ready types.. but I dont want to double dip on the same need, which I think Moody/Duarte would do. I also question Duarte's defensive potential at the NBA level

Still a believe in Poole's 6th man ability so I think we have 3 wing positions already semi-locked down in Klay/Wiggins/Poole.. if we draft Moody thats 4, and between those 4, there's not much wiggle room in making them PGs or PFs.. and doing so would affect one of our other needs of ballhandling/rebounding.

I see. We're pretty much **** out of luck if we can't get another ball handler in FA.

[FNQ]

Why not just draft Moody and Duarte?

Too much of the same thing. I have our 3 biggest needs as a 3&D wing, a backup ballhandler (any position), and a rebounding/defending big, in no particular order. So I'm looking at guys who address the need while not creating alternate issues, and I'm also favoring NBA-ready types.. but I dont want to double dip on the same need, which I think Moody/Duarte would do. I also question Duarte's defensive potential at the NBA level

Still a believe in Poole's 6th man ability so I think we have 3 wing positions already semi-locked down in Klay/Wiggins/Poole.. if we draft Moody thats 4, and between those 4, there's not much wiggle room in making them PGs or PFs.. and doing so would affect one of our other needs of ballhandling/rebounding.

I see. We're pretty much **** out of luck if we can't get another ball handler in FA.

If we buy or trade our way into the 2nd, there's a few PGs I really like there, with Joel Ayayi being my favorite value pick by far. Way overshadowed in Zaga, I think if he was on a mid-major team, he'd be going in the middle-late 1st. David Duke, Jared Butler, D. Nix...

But I agree that FA is pretty slim pickings in terms of handlers. Might wind up being a trade market thing.. or try and find a partner who has a 3rd string PG that we really like, and make a Paschall/PG swap? I dunno.. having a couple lotto picks means the scenarios are endless at this point

[Onus]

At 7 I want moody or Mitchell if none of the top 5 miraculously fall. At 14 I’ll take Wagner, Garuba, or trey Murphy.

[azwfan]

Too much of the same thing. I have our 3 biggest needs as a 3&D wing, a backup ballhandler (any position), and a rebounding/defending big, in no particular order. So I'm looking at guys who address the need while not creating alternate issues, and I'm also favoring NBA-ready types.. but I dont want to double dip on the same need, which I think Moody/Duarte would do. I also question Duarte's defensive potential at the NBA level

Still a believe in Poole's 6th man ability so I think we have 3 wing positions already semi-locked down in Klay/Wiggins/Poole.. if we draft Moody thats 4, and between those 4, there's not much wiggle room in making them PGs or PFs.. and doing so would affect one of our other needs of ballhandling/rebounding.

I see. We're pretty much **** out of luck if we can't get another ball handler in FA.

If we buy or trade our way into the 2nd, there's a few PGs I really like there, with Joel Ayayi being my favorite value pick by far. Way overshadowed in Zaga, I think if he was on a mid-major team, he'd be going in the middle-late 1st. David Duke, Jared Butler, D. Nix...

But I agree that FA is pretty slim pickings in terms of handlers. Might wind up being a trade market thing.. or try and find a partner who has a 3rd string PG that we really like, and make a Paschall/PG swap? I dunno.. having a couple lotto picks means the scenarios are endless at this point

In general I think its a bad idea to draft for need. The stakes are higher in the lottery, but when picking in the 2nd rd we gotta just get whoever we think can be a contributor at all.

If we move into the 20's / early 2nd I'd look at a specialist type like Scottie Lewis who we know has an elite NBA skill and needs to improve on certain aspects, which he can work on in Santa Cruz. I think its unlikely we bring in a 3rd pick this year. So drafting in that range would be a trade down scenario.

[Scoots1994]

I don't know this draft class this well outside the top guys. I know lacob said rookie contracts are needed to balance out the expensive roster but 3 rookies won't get us far next season imo.

I love having the youngsters mixed with veterans though. Just need the other vets to be good.

Who is the 3rd rookie?

[azwfan]

At 7 I want moody or Mitchell if none of the top 5 miraculously fall. At 14 I’ll take Wagner, Garuba, or trey Murphy.

Who is the 5? The way I hear draft folk talk about Kuminga and Barnes, I'm not so sure Kuminga is a lock at 5 (although he's probably a great fit and just what the dr. ordered for Orlando).

[Onus]

At 7 I want moody or Mitchell if none of the top 5 miraculously fall. At 14 I’ll take Wagner, Garuba, or trey Murphy.

Who is the 5? The way I hear draft folk talk about Kuminga and Barnes, I'm not so sure Kuminga is a lock at 5 (although he's probably a great fit and just what the dr. ordered for Orlando).

Well the 4 and kuminga. Kuminga is a prototype and he really only started playing basketball 4 years ago. If he’s there at 7 you take him. He’s raw and doesn’t fit stephs timeline but he’s got the tools to be a lockdown switch everything defender, while having the athleticism and strength to take over on the offensive end. He’s got a long way to go on the offensive end but he can absolutely be Jaylen brown type player.

[Scoots1994]

Barnes could be the pick since he's right up there in potential but it's just possible he is there. If he's on the board and Moody is not my guess is he's the pick despite fit/shooting issues.

[GswStorm3]

My guess is they take BPA at 7 and trade 14 for a vet. Those picks probably aren't getting you a star.

[ChuckDurn]

Barnes could be the pick since he's right up there in potential but it's just possible he is there. If he's on the board and Moody is not my guess is he's the pick despite fit/shooting issues.

Yeah, I agree with this. No doubt that the following will be taken in the top-6: Cade, Mobley, Green, Suggs.

The question is, who are the other 2 that are taken in the top-6? I think the general consensus is that it’ll be Kuminga and Barnes.

But if somebody “jumps over” Barnes, and he’s still there at 7, I’d take him in a heartbeat. The more I see of him, the more I think he’s going to be a beast. Or if people are concerned about his fit (I’m not really that concerned), I suspect we could trade down just a little and pick up another asset, because somebody’s going to desperately want him. (Such as the Kings.)

I doubt Moody will jump into the top-6….. too much concern that he doesn’t have a massive upside. But somebody else might.

[ChuckDurn]

My guess is they take BPA at 7 and trade 14 for a vet. Those picks probably aren't getting you a star.

Yep. Or maybe trade 14 for some different picks and assets, no necessarily in this draft.

I probably wouldn’t mind having us trade #14 to Memphis to return our own future draft pick (which we sent out in the Iguodala trade), depending on who’s still on the board at #14. Memphis currently has our #1 in 2024 (protected for picks 1-4), defers to 2025 if not conveyed in 2024 (protected for pick 1), or defers to 2026 if it hasn’t previously conveyed. There’s no protection in 2026.

Because of uncertainty about when it might convey, it basically renders us unable to trade any future #1 picks between 2023 and 2028, which is a huge impediment for future deals……

[and1GS]

I think there are some real win-now NBA ready options at 7.

Davion is intriguing to me as I don't think size matters at the 1 as much anymore so long as the 2 and 3 around you aren't crazy small (which they wouldn't be). I actually love him as a bulldog defender and the fact that he's 22 is a plus for a team like ours. I do feel his ceiling is lower than most + he of course won't be as versatile...and rounding out the bad, I think the 3pt % is fool's gold and he's a poor FT shooter. So what are you really expecting from him on offense? With a focused role leading and playmaking for a second unit, I think he's a good fit.

Seeing as folks feel Moody will go higher, he'd be an option at 7 as well, though i'd prefer if we got a feel for his draft stock then maybe used future assets to move from 14 to 11 or so to nab him.

Beyond those two, I really don't want Keon. He could end up being good, but he's a project and it's just not where we are right now. Scottie and Ziare I do not want under any circumstance. The rest I'll need to look into more, but Moody and Davion are the guys I like right now. That said, unless we're bringing in both of them I really hope we deal a pick for a vet rotational guy. I think FNQ had a good list of our needs.

[Impuniti]

Package 7 14 Wiseman Wiggins for Lillard or a superstar that wants out

This is far and away one of the worst ideas in the last few seasons on what Warriors can do to improve.

[and1GS]

Package 7 14 Wiseman Wiggins for Lillard or a superstar that wants out

This is far and away one of the worst ideas in the last few seasons on what Warriors can do to improve.

I can imagine Mark Cuban picking up the phone and saying 'you're giving me that for Luka!?'

Borderline offensive.

[Coxy]

Package 7 14 Wiseman Wiggins for Lillard or a superstar that wants out

Ant...that Coxy quote...omg....That must haunt him!

Meh, revisionist history, Stephs ankles were swiss cheese at one point and he that was pre-breakout Steph.

Whatever.

[ClutchUp]

I think they keep both picks and draft two prospects. Sengun and Giddey are my preferred choices.