Brick Layer wrote:ChuckDurn wrote:Brick Layer wrote:
We have at least 12 posters on this board who think it would be an absolutely brilliant idea for the Warriors to give Morey anything the 76ers want including accepting the pre-draft offer from the 76ers that required the Warriors to trade James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, 2021 draft picks #7 and #14 plus two future unprotected first-round picks. That was at least 200% over Simmons' actual trade value. If GSW is one of only 3 teams Simmons wants to be traded to why are we not lowballing the 76ers after Simons' trade demands and holdout threats have gone public giving the 76ers literally zero trade leverage? Is either LA team making great offers? Right now Simmons for Wiggins straight up is an overpay for GSW who isn't the team that's caught between a rock and a hard place.
Just because Simmons wants to go to one of 3 California teams, it doesn’t mean those are the only teams he would play for.
I think it boils down to “I won’t play for Philadelphia; I will play for 29 other teams; but I’d prefer to be traded to these 3.”
He’s only going to sit out in 1 situation, the situation he’s pissed off at. And there’s any number of teams not amongst his 3 preferred who will make offers for him. Minnesota definitely wants him, other teams do as well, and their offers will be WAAAAAY more than offering Wiggins (who is still viewed as a bad contract, though not as bad as it was just a year ago).
I’m amongst the group that isn’t overly concerned about the approximately 15 minutes/game that Simmons and Draymond may be on the court together, considering that we’ve already demonstrated that having another non-spacer with Draymond (e.g. Looney, Bogut) doesn’t prevent us from being an elite offense. And defensively we’d be a nightmare for teams with 2 ridiculously versatile DPOY candidates in the frontcourt.
I understand those who don’t think Simmons would fit, I just disagree. But I guarantee that if he gets traded (to anybody), it’s for a package at least as valuable as what I suggested.
(Oh, and note that if the Warriors made the deal I suggested, I’d have no problem making that first-rounder be the 2022 1st-round pick, unprotected, because I think at worst the Warriors would have a top-6 record in the league, so that pick would be a very late 1st-rounder, which is a crapshoot. And that’s how you do a run-on sentence.)
Teams who are not on Simmons' preferred list of trade destinations will have real doubts about giving up significant assets if there is a possibility he will show his displeasure by not giving max effort the way James Harden dogged it in Houston. GM's who make ill advised trades often struggle to have long careers as successful NBA executives.
This is all just theory now.
If / when he’s traded, we’ll re-visit the value, okay?
Your contention is that Simmons will be traded for a solid starter (not an All-Star), with no additional high-level prospects or draft picks.
My contention is that Simmons will be traded for not only a solid starter, but also 2 good future assets (either high-level prospects or draft picks). As a note, the #1 draft pick I would include is Golden State’s #1 in 2022 (unprotected, which has to be the case because of our potential conveyance of the 2024 pick to Memphis).
Let’s just see who’s closer when it’s all said and done, okay?