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Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get?

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Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player has earned their minutes LEAST?

Jordan Poole
3
8%
Juan Toscano-Anderson
5
13%
Andre Iguodala
9
24%
Nemanja Bjelica
3
8%
Otto Porter Jr
0
No votes
Damion Lee
16
42%
Gary Payton II
0
No votes
Jonathan Kuminga
2
5%
 
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#41 » by watch1958 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:54 pm

clyde21 wrote:Poole 29 mins -> 20mins
Iggy 20 mins -> 0mins
Lee 20 mins -> 7mins
JTA 16 mins -> 10mins
Chiozza 11 mins -> 0mins

all of those mins need to be redistributed to Moody, Kuminga, and back to Klay once he gets his feet under him, maybe a couple of more mins to Dray (he's only playing 29 mins per).

tighten the rotation, remove Chiozza, JTA, Bjelica, Iggy and Lee from any non-garbage time sets, go back to playing Steph 1st/3rd full time and manage the rotations around that.

i get it, we have a pretty deep team, but in the playoffs it's gonna be quality > quantity, and we need to start tightening those lineups and sets and figuring out the rotations that we will be using to make the PO push.

in any high leverage or close game, these are the only players should see the court:

Steph / Gp2
Klay / Poole
Wiggy / Moody
Dray / Porter Jr.
Loon / Minga

this 10 man rotation is plenty good enough, supplement Iggy, Bjelica or Lee or JTA as needed in garbage time.
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#42 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:59 pm

watch1958 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Poole 29 mins -> 20mins
Iggy 20 mins -> 0mins
Lee 20 mins -> 7mins
JTA 16 mins -> 10mins
Chiozza 11 mins -> 0mins

all of those mins need to be redistributed to Moody, Kuminga, and back to Klay once he gets his feet under him, maybe a couple of more mins to Dray (he's only playing 29 mins per).

tighten the rotation, remove Chiozza, JTA, Bjelica, Iggy and Lee from any non-garbage time sets, go back to playing Steph 1st/3rd full time and manage the rotations around that.

i get it, we have a pretty deep team, but in the playoffs it's gonna be quality > quantity, and we need to start tightening those lineups and sets and figuring out the rotations that we will be using to make the PO push.

in any high leverage or close game, these are the only players should see the court:

Steph / Gp2
Klay / Poole
Wiggy / Moody
Dray / Porter Jr.
Loon / Minga

this 10 man rotation is plenty good enough, supplement Iggy, Bjelica or Lee or JTA as needed in garbage time.
Hey, you accidentally left Wiseman out of the rotation.


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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#43 » by EvanZ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:14 pm

Chiozza isn't a rotation player so what is the point of this question?
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#44 » by FNQ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:10 pm

EvanZ wrote:Chiozza isn't a rotation player so what is the point of this question?


How can you be a numbers guy and not check the date? Jeezus
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#45 » by EvanZ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:12 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Chiozza isn't a rotation player so what is the point of this question?


How can you be a numbers guy and not check the date? Jeezus


What does the date matter? He was never a rotation player. He's a guy who gets random spot minutes.
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#46 » by FNQ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:15 pm

clyde21 wrote:Poole 29 mins -> 20mins
Iggy 20 mins -> 0mins
Lee 20 mins -> 7mins
JTA 16 mins -> 10mins
Chiozza 11 mins -> 0mins

all of those mins need to be redistributed to Moody, Kuminga, and back to Klay once he gets his feet under him, maybe a couple of more mins to Dray (he's only playing 29 mins per).

tighten the rotation, remove Chiozza, JTA, Bjelica, Iggy and Lee from any non-garbage time sets, go back to playing Steph 1st/3rd full time and manage the rotations around that.

i get it, we have a pretty deep team, but in the playoffs it's gonna be quality > quantity, and we need to start tightening those lineups and sets and figuring out the rotations that we will be using to make the PO push.

in any high leverage or close game, these are the only players should see the court:

Steph / Gp2
Klay / Poole
Wiggy / Moody
Dray / Porter Jr.
Loon / Minga

this 10 man rotation is plenty good enough, most teams in the POs are going 8 or 9 deep anyways. supplement Iggy, Bjelica or Lee or JTA as needed in garbage time.


Only issue is the of handlers. I don’t think Moody will be able to contribute much offensively unless he’s with the ball-movers. Maybe something we can address at deadline or post deadline waivers, but we could use someone who keeps the ball out of Poole’s hands a bit more
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#47 » by FNQ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:
FNQ wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Chiozza isn't a rotation player so what is the point of this question?


How can you be a numbers guy and not check the date? Jeezus


What does the date matter? He was never a rotation player. He's a guy who gets random spot minutes.


6 consecutive non-garbage time appearances in a row at time of posting. Thanks for your contribution and concern about a throwaway line in the thread title

Unreal that the Chiozza part apparently makes the question confusing :lol:
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Post#48 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:55 pm

FNQ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Poole 29 mins -> 20mins
Iggy 20 mins -> 0mins
Lee 20 mins -> 7mins
JTA 16 mins -> 10mins
Chiozza 11 mins -> 0mins

all of those mins need to be redistributed to Moody, Kuminga, and back to Klay once he gets his feet under him, maybe a couple of more mins to Dray (he's only playing 29 mins per).

tighten the rotation, remove Chiozza, JTA, Bjelica, Iggy and Lee from any non-garbage time sets, go back to playing Steph 1st/3rd full time and manage the rotations around that.

i get it, we have a pretty deep team, but in the playoffs it's gonna be quality > quantity, and we need to start tightening those lineups and sets and figuring out the rotations that we will be using to make the PO push.

in any high leverage or close game, these are the only players should see the court:

Steph / Gp2
Klay / Poole
Wiggy / Moody
Dray / Porter Jr.
Loon / Minga

this 10 man rotation is plenty good enough, most teams in the POs are going 8 or 9 deep anyways. supplement Iggy, Bjelica or Lee or JTA as needed in garbage time.


Only issue is the of handlers. I don’t think Moody will be able to contribute much offensively unless he’s with the ball-movers. Maybe something we can address at deadline or post deadline waivers, but we could use someone who keeps the ball out of Poole’s hands a bit more


play Steph less off-ball and more on-ball, we have two primary handlers in Steph/Dray, pretty much what the majority of POs teams have anyways, we're not facing a unique issue

Lakers: Lebron/Russ
Denver: Jokic/Morris (or Murray)
Suns: Cp3/Payne
Utah: Conley/Mitchell

etc. etc.
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Post#49 » by SpreeChokeJob » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:01 pm

FNQ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Poole 29 mins -> 20mins
Iggy 20 mins -> 0mins
Lee 20 mins -> 7mins
JTA 16 mins -> 10mins
Chiozza 11 mins -> 0mins

all of those mins need to be redistributed to Moody, Kuminga, and back to Klay once he gets his feet under him, maybe a couple of more mins to Dray (he's only playing 29 mins per).

tighten the rotation, remove Chiozza, JTA, Bjelica, Iggy and Lee from any non-garbage time sets, go back to playing Steph 1st/3rd full time and manage the rotations around that.

i get it, we have a pretty deep team, but in the playoffs it's gonna be quality > quantity, and we need to start tightening those lineups and sets and figuring out the rotations that we will be using to make the PO push.

in any high leverage or close game, these are the only players should see the court:

Steph / Gp2
Klay / Poole
Wiggy / Moody
Dray / Porter Jr.
Loon / Minga

this 10 man rotation is plenty good enough, most teams in the POs are going 8 or 9 deep anyways. supplement Iggy, Bjelica or Lee or JTA as needed in garbage time.


Only issue is the of handlers. I don’t think Moody will be able to contribute much offensively unless he’s with the ball-movers. Maybe something we can address at deadline or post deadline waivers, but we could use someone who keeps the ball out of Poole’s hands a bit more


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At this point, I think they should give Curry and Green every other game off or the games against weaker competition off to get their heads and legs back on right. While also getting the others more experience.

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Kuminga and Bjelica should alternate for backup center minutes against fast and slow teams respectively.
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#50 » by EvanZ » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:04 pm

FNQ wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
FNQ wrote:
How can you be a numbers guy and not check the date? Jeezus


What does the date matter? He was never a rotation player. He's a guy who gets random spot minutes.


6 consecutive non-garbage time appearances in a row at time of posting. Thanks for your contribution and concern about a throwaway line in the thread title

Unreal that the Chiozza part apparently makes the question confusing :lol:


Nobody was confused about the question though. It's just a bad question with a bad premise.
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#51 » by FNQ » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:46 am

Ah, so everyone on that list deserves the minutes they get, Chiozza wasn't in the rotation despite what the boxscores said, and apparently Chiozza is relevant to the question being asked despite his exclusion, which is literally in the question

lol man you started off terrible and somehow made it worse
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Post#52 » by SFrush » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:57 am

FNQ wrote:Ah, so everyone on that list deserves the minutes they get, Chiozza wasn't in the rotation despite what the boxscores said, and apparently Chiozza is relevant to the question being asked despite his exclusion, which is literally in the question

lol man you started off terrible and somehow made it worse


It definitely wasn't a bad question with a bad premise.
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Post#53 » by HiRez » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:08 am

It’s going to be impossible for Kerr to deny minutes to Kuminga after the CHI game. About the only thing he can argue is there’s too many mouths to feed, which isn’t really a great argument either since he’s already playing as well as a number of players on the team but with a WAY higher ceiling and an upward trajectory.
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Re: Aside from Chiozza, which rotation player doesn't deserve the minutes they get? 

Post#54 » by sjballer03 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:15 pm

FNQ wrote:Ah, so everyone on that list deserves the minutes they get, Chiozza wasn't in the rotation despite what the boxscores said, and apparently Chiozza is relevant to the question being asked despite his exclusion, which is literally in the question

lol man you started off terrible and somehow made it worse


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