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Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:00 pm
by Old_Blue
Can't say I'm entirely surprised. Hopefully, the return isn't something dumb like two future 2nd round picks.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/fischers-latest-turner-brogdon-nuggets-mavericks-warriors-lakers.html

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038623-latest-nba-intel-sources-expect-zach-lavine-to-re-sign-with-chicago-bulls

The Dallas Mavericks, picking No. 26, and Golden State Warriors, picking No. 28, are motivated to find deals for their late-first round selections, sources told B/R. Dallas and Golden State have expensive rosters that feature players such as Brunson, Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins who are due for paydays.

The Mavericks and Warriors are searching for opportunities to acquire future draft capital for those selections, sources said, in the event a coveted player on their boards doesn't fall. Another possible outcome is that they will select international draft-and-stash players.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:02 pm
by Onus
yea for the most part makes sense.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:54 pm
by ChuckDurn
Old_Blue wrote:Can't say I'm entirely surprised. Hopefully, the return isn't something dumb like two future 2nd round picks.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/fischers-latest-turner-brogdon-nuggets-mavericks-warriors-lakers.html

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038623-latest-nba-intel-sources-expect-zach-lavine-to-re-sign-with-chicago-bulls

The Dallas Mavericks, picking No. 26, and Golden State Warriors, picking No. 28, are motivated to find deals for their late-first round selections, sources told B/R. Dallas and Golden State have expensive rosters that feature players such as Brunson, Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins who are due for paydays.

The Mavericks and Warriors are searching for opportunities to acquire future draft capital for those selections, sources said, in the event a coveted player on their boards doesn't fall. Another possible outcome is that they will select international draft-and-stash players.

I'm skeptical. I think the Warriors need to get controllable young talent on small contracts, so I expect they'll use this pick rather than trading it. But in using it, it'll be on a mature, upperclassman-type player who they view as less of a "development project with a high upside" and more of a "guy who can contribute some right away, even if they have a low ceiling".

It's why somebody like Christian Braun (though he's not the only one) would make sense......

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:15 pm
by Commodor
I was more hoping they would package up #28, 51 & 57 + cash to get in the 20-25 range.

Maybe Philly or MIL would appreciate some extra picks.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:30 am
by Scoots1994
If they were not looking at those options they would not be doing a good job. I think it's a nothing story.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:56 am
by cdubbz
It would be something if the Warriors continue to keep draft picks and develop players.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:13 am
by Coxy
Bob needs to get on the phone with Minnesota regarding pick #28. We have been good trading partners over the years, I feel like theres a deal there (mad lolz).

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:16 am
by Crazy-Canuck
Lacob is hunting for the next smiley.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:51 am
by azwfan
If we do trade out of the pick, i hope its for a future 1st. The only way I’d be happy with 2nds is if one of them is in the top 40 this year and then maybe other(s) in the future.

I dont think #28 holds this kind of value but i was thinking 28 + 51 to NYK for the Dallas ‘23 1st (top 10 protected) and #45.

I really dont think there will be much worth worrying about by time 51 and 55 roll around which is why I want us to be in the top 40/45.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:13 am
by clyde21
doesnt make sense to me, locking in rookie scale players is the best way to manage the cap long term if you hit on a decent player.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:36 am
by TrueFan420
clyde21 wrote:doesnt make sense to me, locking in rookie scale players is the best way to manage the cap long term if you hit on a decent player.

The reason is we’re already super young on the bench.


Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman (hasn’t gotten PT cause injury) are young and need time. Adding another kid doesn’t help. We need them to get minutes.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:43 am
by clyde21
TrueFan420 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:doesnt make sense to me, locking in rookie scale players is the best way to manage the cap long term if you hit on a decent player.

The reason is we’re already super young on the bench.


Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman (hasn’t gotten PT cause injury) are young and need time. Adding another kid doesn’t help. We need them to get minutes.


Wiseman is gonna be entering his 3rd yr now and if he still can't stay healthy or prove he's a good fit he should be traded, and we don't have to draft a super young guy with our pick, you can find 21/22 yr olds that can contribute in some capacity

and if u need vets u can always get them on vet mins, we just got Bjelica, Iggy and Otto on vet mins. that is the best method of cost control if you have an expensive roster, rookie scale and vet min players.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:47 am
by clyde21
this is our inked roster heading into FA

Steph / Poole
Klay / Moody
Wiggy
Dray / Minga
Wiseman

that's 8 guys.

assuming we bring back Loon/Gp2 that's 10.

if we use the 28 pick, that still leaves us 4 spots for vet min guys. we have plenty of experience on this team. don't see that as a legitimate reason to trade the pick at all.

id much rather take a flyer on a Liddell or Terry at 28 than trading the pick just so we can sign another vet min guy?

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:52 am
by tarantism
Sort of a weird story. I'd think that adding another young guy on a team controlled contract would be beneficial for the team, so I'd assume that this is just a "keeping options open" sort of report and not their #1 option. That feeling is heightened by the report mentioning that they might look to do it if "nobody they like falls".

So they might take a player, trade the pick or stash a euro? Sure seems like literally all of the available options to me. I.e. nothing story.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:03 am
by azwfan
tarantism wrote:Sort of a weird story. I'd think that adding another young guy on a team controlled contract would be beneficial for the team, so I'd assume that this is just a "keeping options open" sort of report and not their #1 option. That feeling is heightened by the report mentioning that they might look to do it if "nobody they like falls".

So they might take a player, trade the pick or stash a euro? Sure seems like literally all of the available options to me. I.e. nothing story.

True.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:20 am
by azwfan
clyde21 wrote:this is our inked roster heading into FA

Steph / Poole
Klay / Moody
Wiggy
Dray / Minga
Wiseman

that's 8 guys.

assuming we bring back Loon/Gp2 that's 10.

if we use the 28 pick, that still leaves us 4 spots for vet min guys. we have plenty of experience on this team. don't see that as a legitimate reason to trade the pick at all.

id much rather take a flyer on a Liddell or Terry at 28 than trading the pick just so we can sign another vet min guy?

If I had to guess, I would think we are planning to leave the 15th spot open until trade deadline / mid season to both keep some roster flexibility and also save ownership some cash. Or at least have non-guaranteed player. Honestly, think we planned to do that this year but GP2 proved to be too valuable.
As for the other 4 spots:

1. Vet big (Belly)
2.Vet wing (OPJr)
3 & 4 2nd rd picks / Jessup / JTA, / Lee / Weatherspoon to compete for the 2 last roster spots.

Most likely the 2nds are two way’d or euro stash. Leaving the rest to compete for the 13th and 14th roster spot.

Think this is the roster spot that would be filled with the 1st rd pick. I mean, why draft someone we dont really like.

Additionally, having open roster spots makes our club more attractive in the backend of the 2nd rd (where we have 2 picks) where agents are angling for their guys to not be drafted so they can choose the best situation for them. Well GSW with less guaranteed roster spots may be somewhere a nice prospect who slipped out of the top of the 2nd rd may angle to go to as opposed to a team that doesnt have any opportunity.

Example 1: Nico Mannion angled to be drafted by the Warriors after he wasnt picked in the 1st.

Example 2: Austin Reeves angling to not be drafted as there looked to be opportunity with the Lakers

Im sure this happens a lot more often than those examples. At any rate its all a bunch of nothing right now, but there is some possible logic behind punting the 1st for a future draft.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:31 am
by clyde21
i mean, if we end up trading the pick because we don't like anyone available that's a different story than wanting to trade the pick to save $, you don't know if someone you like drops or not until draft night.

i agree we will leave 1 or 2 spots open, that'll still give us two spots for vet min guys after we bring back Loon/Gp2. either way, there will be plenty of vets/experience on the roster if that's the issue.

if a guy like Terry or Liddell or especially someone like Diabate drop, don't see how u don't make the pick honestly. but who knows what they are thinking.

seems like a non-story to me as well.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:33 am
by azwfan
If we do draft with #28 someone who can help some next season.

These are the guys Ive looked at that I like:
Liddell
LaRavia
Braun
Moore Jr

No idea on Internationals for draft and stash.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:37 am
by azwfan
clyde21 wrote:i mean, if we end up trading the pick because we don't like anyone available that's a different story than wanting to trade the pick to save $, you don't know if someone you like drops or not until draft night.

i agree we will leave 1 or 2 spots open, that'll still give us two spots for vet min guys after we bring back Loon/Gp2. either way, there will be plenty of vets/experience on the roster if that's the issue.

if a guy like Terry or Liddell or especially someone like Diabate drop, don't see how u don't make the pick honestly. but who knows what they are thinking.

seems like a non-story to me as well.

I really like Diabate and I would be super disappointed if we passed on him to draft some guy who maybe help in the regular season (maybe) or trade the pick. Terry falls in that category too, but to a lessor extent.

If the choice is trading the pick for a future 1st or guys like Braun or Moore, I’d probably prefer to trade the pick.

Re: Warriors reported to be looking to trade this year's first round pick...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:25 am
by SinceGatlingWasARookie
Draft a raw player with upside potential that must play in g-league to get experience and then hope we hit a home run with upside potential.