Eligible for 5 years $190 million

[Big J]

Agreed, what is the harm in re signing him when we can always trade him down the road if needed?

If he goes in a tank or has major injury issues trading it costs assets.

Why would he go in the tank or suffer an injury? He's known as probably the biggest gym rat on the team, and he has had zero history of injuries and is a young healthy guard.

[lars_rosenberg]

I read the Warriors are offering 100/4 extension, which is a fair deal in my opinion.
If he wants more, I'd seriously consider a trade as it's very likely he'll get more in free agency and we may not want to match a max salary offer sheet for JP.

[Scoots1994]

Agreed, what is the harm in re signing him when we can always trade him down the road if needed?

If he goes in a tank or has major injury issues trading it costs assets.

Why would he go in the tank or suffer an injury? He's known as probably the biggest gym rat on the team, and he has had zero history of injuries and is a young healthy guard.

Because crap happens. It's not that it's going to happen, but it can.

[Big J]

If he goes in a tank or has major injury issues trading it costs assets.

Why would he go in the tank or suffer an injury? He's known as probably the biggest gym rat on the team, and he has had zero history of injuries and is a young healthy guard.

Because crap happens. It's not that it's going to happen, but it can.

That crap could happen to any of the guys we are paying max contracts to. Hell, it's more likely with Klay and Draymond because they are already showing regression and both have suffered injuries recently.

[GunnerWRX]

Let's create another thread saying Looney is eligible for a 30% max deal and start worrying about it?

Who the f cares about "eligible"?

[Impuniti]

If Poole's agent is unwilling to compromise, do the Dubs trade him now?

hopefully

You got some horrible takes on here. Would anyone outside of Steph be in the team if you were the GM by the start of next season?

[clyde21]

If Poole's agent is unwilling to compromise, do the Dubs trade him now?

hopefully

You got some horrible takes on here. Would anyone outside of Steph be in the team if you were the GM by the start of next season?

yea let's give Poole 30m a year sounds like an incredible idea broski.

[CS707]

I think he'll take a shorter deal and bet on himself. Even if he doesn't improve a whole lot as a player he'd be valued higher when the cap goes up just by virtue of available money.

[DonaldSanders]

If Poole's agent is unwilling to compromise, do the Dubs trade him now?

hopefully

You got some horrible takes on here. Would anyone outside of Steph be in the team if you were the GM by the start of next season?

Pretty sure he would have traded Curry too at some points last season

[DonaldSanders]

I think he'll take a shorter deal and bet on himself. Even if he doesn't improve a whole lot as a player he'd be valued higher when the cap goes up just by virtue of available money.

That would make sense to me -- get some serious guaranteed and then look to swing for a bigger bag when the CBA increases the cap. Jordan might really increase his value 2-3 years from now, no sense to sign a long deal now unless it's a max, and I don't think anyone is going to max him.

[Chupchup]

Poole is signed for another year at like a cheap price of like 3.5 mil. After that we still can match any offer he signs so there's really no reason to max him out this year.

Offer him 20 per year extension and if it doesn't work out, talk again next year.

[tarantism]

Crazy how much JP's value swings on this board.

I do think that retaining Wiggins might be the priority, but JP is 23 and was also a key cog in the championship machine this past year. He should improve physically, defensively and also as a lead ball handler / decision maker. Re-signing him should be a no brainer at this point, and 4/100 seems reasonable enough.

[Impuniti]

If he wants to be the best player he can be, he accepts what is offered, continues to work in a great culture, lives up to his potential, and the next contract is the one he cashes in on.

If what he cares about is making as much money right now, then he can get his money, play on mediocre teams in other cities the rest of his career, and put a poster of Harrison Barnes on his wall.

I agree with you by the way. Hopefully he accepts a 4 year/80m and then he can get the whole bag in four years. By then, the new NBA TV deal will be going and he can swim in money.

[HiRez]

I don't give him any more than $25M/5 at this point. That's not chump change for a somewhat unproven player. More than I was willing to give Harrison Barnes a few years ago (even with inflation).

Maybe offer $22M/4 or $20M/5 and see what the counter-offer is.

[xdrta+]

I don't give him any more than $25M/5 at this point. That's not chump change for a somewhat unproven player. More than I was willing to give Harrison Barnes a few years ago (even with inflation).

Maybe offer $22M/4 or $20M/5 and see what the counter-offer is.

Those numbers can only be for 4 yrs. 5 yrs on a rookie extension requires a max offer. I predicted a while back he would sign a 4/80-100 extension and I'm sticking with that.

[HiRez]

I don't give him any more than $25M/5 at this point. That's not chump change for a somewhat unproven player. More than I was willing to give Harrison Barnes a few years ago (even with inflation).

Maybe offer $22M/4 or $20M/5 and see what the counter-offer is.

Those numbers can only be for 4 yrs. 5 yrs on a rookie extension requires a max offer. I predicted a while back he would sign a 4/80-100 extension and I'm sticking with that.

Ugh. Yeah, forget the max then. I like Poole but there's no way I'm maxing him out. So yeah, try to get $20M/4, go up to $25M/4 if necessary. Really want them to be able to bring back Looney and GP2 though (and ideally Porter but I'm assuming he's probably gone).

[GunnerWRX]

I think he'll take a shorter deal and bet on himself. Even if he doesn't improve a whole lot as a player he'd be valued higher when the cap goes up just by virtue of available money.

This is a good point that not many bring up. People think about $15m, $20m, $25m, or $30m in a vacuum. I understand why, because it is a lot of money to everyone. But, teams are limited to a cap, can have 14-15 players, and the cap is tied to revenue and especially the national TV deal.

People should think about % of cap instead of a hard # to look at things with the right view. Wiggins 5-year rookie 25% max was $148m/5. Same 5-yr 25% rookie max extension, which Ayton tried to get, is now $177m/5. That is an average of $5m more per season.

Not too long ago, the MLE was $6-8m, the MLE this summer is $11m.

Having said all that, the current NBA TV deal runs thru 2024-25, which means the cap will jump in 2025 summer. Now, the league may smooth out the increase instead of creating another KD to the Warriors situation, but the cap from 2025 summer and on, will be much more and players will get bigger contracts.

I can totally see "some" players aligning their FA to land on 2025 summer, when the pie gets bigger, for a chance to grab a bigger bite.

Question to you all - for a star rookie extension, you give the 25% max blindly (which can go up to 30% for true stars who gets All NBA etc etc). With this mindset, for Poole, the consensus is he's not a 25% max player. What % of team cap do you think he's worth? 20%? 15%? 10%?

[clyde21]

to keep things in perspective, Steph's 2nd deal was 4/44.

[BayWarrior]

to keep things in perspective, Steph's 2nd deal was 4/44.

Ok then it's Poole 4/88

[clyde21]

to keep things in perspective, Steph's 2nd deal was 4/44.

Ok then it's Poole 4/88

more like Poole off this team