It's TIME! 23 Draft
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It's TIME! 23 Draft
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It's TIME! 23 Draft
So Warriors are currently picking 17th... but with the league parity this year and Kerrs' fascination with Don Nelson like lineups who knows how juicy our pick will get. I wouldnt be at all surpised if Meyers ships the pick though.
Wiseman is gone, GPII is back and Kerr likes and plays rookies less than a realgm bikini appearance.
But we NEED a big in the biggest, baddest way.
So after my first day of reluctant but inevitable lazyboy fan scouting... I give you.
Coleman Hawkins (6'11)
Perfect high motor, versitile, gluey, mid pick fit. I like!
Thoughts?
Who you got as the next warriors bench warmer/saviour?
Wiseman is gone, GPII is back and Kerr likes and plays rookies less than a realgm bikini appearance.
But we NEED a big in the biggest, baddest way.
So after my first day of reluctant but inevitable lazyboy fan scouting... I give you.
Coleman Hawkins (6'11)
Perfect high motor, versitile, gluey, mid pick fit. I like!
Thoughts?
Who you got as the next warriors bench warmer/saviour?
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Wemby here we come!
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Trade pick for whoever Kerr will play.
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Dereck Lively is the obvious pick, assuming there's no way in hell Taylor Hendricks drops that far.
Lively is going to be a very good NBA center, and unlike Wiseman, he's smart enough to figure out our system on both sides. But of course i'm just tiling at windmills here because the FO will never take a chance on another center after Wiseman.
Lively is going to be a very good NBA center, and unlike Wiseman, he's smart enough to figure out our system on both sides. But of course i'm just tiling at windmills here because the FO will never take a chance on another center after Wiseman.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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I have zero expectations for the upcoming draft as far as the Warriors are concerned. Can't see any reason for them to keep the pick unless the core is broken up in the offseason.
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
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And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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EvanZ wrote:Dereck Lively is the obvious pick, assuming there's no way in hell Taylor Hendricks drops that far.
Lively is going to be a very good NBA center, and unlike Wiseman, he's smart enough to figure out our system on both sides. But of course i'm just tiling at windmills here because the FO will never take a chance on another center after Wiseman.
Lively and Hendricks are who I like as well. We come out with one of them I’d be happy
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DevinVassell wrote:So Warriors are currently picking 17th... but with the league parity this year and Kerrs' fascination with Don Nelson like lineups who knows how juicy our pick will get. I wouldnt be at all surpised if Meyers ships the pick though.
Wiseman is gone, GPII is back and Kerr likes and plays rookies less than a realgm bikini appearance.
But we NEED a big in the biggest, baddest way.
So after my first day of reluctant but inevitable lazyboy fan scouting... I give you.
Coleman Hawkins (6'11)
Perfect high motor, versitile, gluey, mid pick fit. I like!
Thoughts?
Who you got as the next warriors bench warmer/saviour?
Hawkins is intriguing. Probably a 2nd rd or udfa guy though
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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Onus wrote:Hawkins is intriguing. Probably a 2nd rd or udfa guy though
Yep most mocks don't even have him. Pfft, this GM is taking him anywhere outside the lottery.
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Can't wait to draft a combo guard promoted as a stretch 4.
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Trade the draft pick for a future draft pick. We don’t need more unplayable rookies next year. Let’s figure out what we have in Rollins, Moody and Baldwin before we add more rookies. Why are still in win now mode next year. G-leaguers are better than rookies.
I don’t think there is anything in this draft that can help us anytime soon when drafting after 15.
Our long term needs are at at center and at point guard.
What is Payton’s position and is Payton with us long term. I figure Payton is a 3rd guard not a point guard or an off guard. Poole is our permanent starting small off guard of the future. Wiggins is our small forward. Looney is our center. Baldwin and Kuminga are our power forwards of the future. So our needs are shot blocking back up center. Big powerful center who could be the same as the shot blocking center if one center could do both big and shot blocking. But centers tend to be unplayable for their 1st 3 years so we probably should add centers from the discard pile. Maybe Tacko Fall for big and then draft a Chris Gatling type center who is a mobile toothpick skinny shot blocker.
When Draymond is gone we probably will need a real point guard.
Poole is small and Wiggins will eventually get old so a guy half who is a cross between Poole and Wiggins would be nice.
I don’t think there is anything in this draft that can help us anytime soon when drafting after 15.
Our long term needs are at at center and at point guard.
What is Payton’s position and is Payton with us long term. I figure Payton is a 3rd guard not a point guard or an off guard. Poole is our permanent starting small off guard of the future. Wiggins is our small forward. Looney is our center. Baldwin and Kuminga are our power forwards of the future. So our needs are shot blocking back up center. Big powerful center who could be the same as the shot blocking center if one center could do both big and shot blocking. But centers tend to be unplayable for their 1st 3 years so we probably should add centers from the discard pile. Maybe Tacko Fall for big and then draft a Chris Gatling type center who is a mobile toothpick skinny shot blocker.
When Draymond is gone we probably will need a real point guard.
Poole is small and Wiggins will eventually get old so a guy half who is a cross between Poole and Wiggins would be nice.
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DevinVassell wrote:Onus wrote:Hawkins is intriguing. Probably a 2nd rd or udfa guy though
Yep most mocks don't even have him. Pfft, this GM is taking him anywhere outside the lottery.
yea i think he would fit well here with his passing and rebounding but i would still take lively or hendricks over him.
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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Is hawkins a better passer than Trevion Williams?
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
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For once, Evan and I are in agreement. Lively is the guy.
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Trade the pick. There is a 0% chance Kerr plays a rookie on a win now team headlined by three guys aged 35, 33 and 33.
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Onus wrote:Is hawkins a better passer than Trevion Williams?
Hawkins is extremely one-dimensional. He's like Buddy Hield or Isaiah Joe. Jeez or harkening back to someone we'll all remember...Morrow.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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and1GS wrote:Trade the pick. There is a 0% chance Kerr plays a rookie on a win now team headlined by three guys aged 35, 33 and 33.
Yeah, I hate to say it because a mid-round draft pick could actually be pretty good, but if there's one thing that was proven this year it's that Kerr isn't going to give rookies playing time and I don't even think it matters how good they are. Kuminga's getting there but his development is behind where it should be, Moody is way behind and probably won't be with the team much longer because of it, Wiseman already got froze out and shipped off by Kerr. The minutes freed up by DDV's likely departure will be theoretically replaced by GP2. Then you have PBJ as the next likely guy that Kerr might play a little next year. Combine that with his ongoing, head-scratching love of Lamb and Jerome, who will get minutes regardless of how mediocre they are, and I just don't see space for any more rookies. It sucks but that's how it is.
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Problem with trading the pick is...what and how? A FRP is worth only a few million so you have to attach it to a bigger contract to get anything of immediate playable value in return. Well let's see, it's doubtful they dump GPII a second time. So we're talking about Poole and really nobody else. Ok fine, let's trade Poole for another $30M player lol. But if it's not a trade for Poole, I expect we just keep the pick.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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EvanZ wrote:Problem with trading the pick is...what and how? A FRP is worth only a few million so you have to attach it to a bigger contract to get anything of immediate playable value in return. Well let's see, it's doubtful they dump GPII a second time. So we're talking about Poole and really nobody else. Ok fine, let's trade Poole for another $30M player lol. But if it's not a trade for Poole, I expect we just keep the pick.
Sweetener for taking Poole is probably the move. I would certainly want a #12-#16 pick, but if Kerr won't play him, what's the point?
Or, see if there's a way to trade the pick to Memphis to get our own 2024 FRP back (1-4 protected 2024, 1 protected 2025, unprotected 2026). That pushes the decision back a year and removes the lingering multi-year protections. Of course if Memphis thinks we'll be really bad in the next few years, they'll certainly want to keep the pick.
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Onus wrote:Is hawkins a better passer than Trevion Williams?
Ha, I also thought of Trevion when watching Hawkins.
I think Trevion is a slightly better passer... but Hawkins better at basically everything else including the night and day physical profiles.
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Wait are you guys talking about Coleman Hawkins or Jordan Hawkins?
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I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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