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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#141 » by CM17 » Sat May 13, 2023 9:10 am

wco81 wrote:Warriors were outplayed in game 6 to lose the series to the Lakers.

But what do you know, the Lakers got 28 more free throw attempts, outscored the Warriors by 21 points on FTs.

The final score was 122-101.

In every Lakers win, they were about 20 more FTs than the Warriors, outscored the Warriors by that much.

AD and LB never in foul trouble.

Prediction for the WCF, Jokic, Gordon and Murray will more likely be in foul trouble than AD or LBJ.

Lakers will still get more FTs than the Nuggets, even though they have one of the best low-post players in the game.

Maybe the NBA won't be so blatant about it, gift the Lakers 20 points for the opponents to overcome.


Yes, it's hard to believe the very obvious FT disparity didn't help.

I'm getting a feeling there is some "Last dance" -type documentry in the making. "The team that was already out of the play-ins going to the finals". "AD miraculously playing after being wheelchaired off the court after game 5".

Well Grizzlies and Warriors had struggles at the end of the season while Denver is playing it's best. So I hope it goes better for them. But I'm not expecting it.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#142 » by DonaldSanders » Sat May 13, 2023 9:20 am

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brandon87 wrote:OP was right all along.


Yup. Hopefully OP had money on the line. Honestly though, the Great Warrior Hosing pre-dated the Lakers series. The fouls and free throws disparity was something I pointed out after the first dozen or so games of the season. Folks said things would even out. That never happened. I have no idea what the League is thinking. During the Lakers series, even the broadcasters mentioned "free throw disparity" and "conspiracy theory" in the same sentence. Whatever the case, it made for difficult to watch basketball.


Well, we took 22 more threes in Game 6 than the Lakers but both teams made 13 threes :o :o

They shot 50% from 3, we shot 27.1%. That was basically game right there, we even had 28 more FGA. 28!! We just bricked shots that game, sheesh.

I will say that when refs call ticky tack fouls over the years it is always bad for us. The slowed pace of the game w/ constant stoppages hurts us more than anything. 56 FTA (42-14) is just wayyyyy too many FTAs for a neutral fan to be able to enjoy a game. It's just exhausting to watch.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#143 » by beavis15205 » Sat May 13, 2023 10:41 am

You could tell from the start how the game was officiated how it would go, what was it 8 for LA before the Warriors got 1?
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#144 » by wco81 » Sat May 13, 2023 4:12 pm

BTW, Warriors fans need to boycott the rest of the playoffs since the league fixed the series with the officiating.

They're going to do the same to Denver and whichever team comes out of the east.

They want to present the strongest ratings possible because they're negotiating the next TV deal.

So they HAVE to have the Lakers win, pulling in ratings along the way.


Also unsubscribe from all NBA podcasts since they will be all about "dynasty is over" and not talk about what really went on.

We will see a replay of the 2002 WCF and they won't call it out.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#145 » by Samurai » Sat May 13, 2023 4:52 pm

Let's go Denver! Beat the Lakers and it can claw back some semblance of satisfaction.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#146 » by beavis15205 » Sat May 13, 2023 5:34 pm

wco81 wrote:BTW, Warriors fans need to boycott the rest of the playoffs since the league fixed the series with the officiating.

They're going to do the same to Denver and whichever team comes out of the east.

They want to present the strongest ratings possible because they're negotiating the next TV deal.

So they HAVE to have the Lakers win, pulling in ratings along the way.


Also unsubscribe from all NBA podcasts since they will be all about "dynasty is over" and not talk about what really went on.

We will see a replay of the 2002 WCF and they won't call it out.


I agree with you but the NBA is a bunch of dumbasses the Warriors draw the highest TV ratings not the Lakers. Lakers vs Denver is a bit of a yawnfest of fouls, games will last 4 hours, it'll be like the old Yanks and Sox games, you can fall asleep for an hour and nothing much happens.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#147 » by wco81 » Sat May 13, 2023 9:37 pm

LA is a much bigger market. Laker fan base is huge because front running is a thing.

Not only that, people will watch hoping to see the Lakers lose.

League has always wanted the Lakers to do well. That is why they have benefitted from favorable trades or stars forcing their way to LA. This history goes back over 50 years.


The NBA is just a few big historic franchises and the rest are just the Washington Generals, or that's how the TV networks and NBA thinks they can make the NBA product on TV successful.

Again, the new TV deal negotiations are a HUGE FACTOR right now. NBA got the new CBA behind them so the next big thing is the new TV deal, where they want to triple the money they're getting on this current deal, which runs one or two more seasons.

It's almost existential for the league, which is why Silver is pushing this midseason tournament and complaining about load management, as stars are rested for marquee national TV games.

Did you notice that TNT and ESPN both are pushing the NHL playoffs at the same time? After game 5, SportsCenter featured the NHL playoffs game, I think it was Edmonton vs. Las Vegas that night, over the Lakers vs. Warriors for the first block, like 10 minutes.

That is ESPN/ABC gamesmanship.

Here's the other thing. NFL released a schedule for the upcoming season. They will feature THREE games on Christmas Day.

NBA used to have Christmas Day as a big showcase. Now the NFL is encroaching on that and they may probably get higher ratings than the NBA games on Christmas this year.

ABC is going to broadcast the Ravens at 49ers at 8:15 ET. ABC will probably feature an NBA game earlier that day. Then ESPN and TNT will show other NBA games on Christmas.

Those other games are probably going to compete against NFL games, which are Raiders at Chiefs at 1 PM EST and Giants at Eagles at 4:30 PM EST.

NBA may be forced to put their other games very early on Christmas or very late. Or maybe they give up on Christmas Day games.


In any event, the TV deal will be EVERYTHING to the league. If they don't get a big bump, that will affect salaries and probably expansion.

That is why NBA wants Lebron to win and the Lakers to win it all this year. They need to offer the networks the LA market delivering huge ratings.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#148 » by WarriorGM » Sat May 13, 2023 9:40 pm

The Lakers are a secondary consideration. The primary consideration is Nike. LeBron is a smokescreen. Jordan is the real reason.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#149 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sat May 13, 2023 9:59 pm

wco81 wrote:LA is a much bigger market. Laker fan base is huge because front running is a thing.

Not only that, people will watch hoping to see the Lakers lose.

League has always wanted the Lakers to do well. That is why they have benefitted from favorable trades or stars forcing their way to LA. This history goes back over 50 years.


The NBA is just a few big historic franchises and the rest are just the Washington Generals, or that's how the TV networks and NBA thinks they can make the NBA product on TV successful.

Again, the new TV deal negotiations are a HUGE FACTOR right now. NBA got the new CBA behind them so the next big thing is the new TV deal, where they want to triple the money they're getting on this current deal, which runs one or two more seasons.

It's almost existential for the league, which is why Silver is pushing this midseason tournament and complaining about load management, as stars are rested for marquee national TV games.

Did you notice that TNT and ESPN both are pushing the NHL playoffs at the same time? After game 5, SportsCenter featured the NHL playoffs game, I think it was Edmonton vs. Las Vegas that night, over the Lakers vs. Warriors for the first block, like 10 minutes.

That is ESPN/ABC gamesmanship.

Here's the other thing. NFL released a schedule for the upcoming season. They will feature THREE games on Christmas Day.

NBA used to have Christmas Day as a big showcase. Now the NFL is encroaching on that and they may probably get higher ratings than the NBA games on Christmas this year.

ABC is going to broadcast the Ravens at 49ers at 8:15 ET. ABC will probably feature an NBA game earlier that day. Then ESPN and TNT will show other NBA games on Christmas.

Those other games are probably going to compete against NFL games, which are Raiders at Chiefs at 1 PM EST and Giants at Eagles at 4:30 PM EST.

NBA may be forced to put their other games very early on Christmas or very late. Or maybe they give up on Christmas Day games.


In any event, the TV deal will be EVERYTHING to the league. If they don't get a big bump, that will affect salaries and probably expansion.

That is why NBA wants Lebron to win and the Lakers to win it all this year. They need to offer the networks the LA market delivering huge ratings.

If they are shooting for a tv deal they will have to readjust their expectations. Media companies are adjusting to a new world where TV isn’t the dominant monopoly it used to be, but then that’s even more a reason for NBA push in their contact year. Media executives will see the costs of a new deal is not worth the returns.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#150 » by wco81 » Sun May 14, 2023 12:00 am

Just remember, the Lakers were in the dumps through the first half to 2/3 of the season.

Then the TV deal didn't get renewed automatically like the NFL's TV deal did.

So it's not just the playoffs, it's the regular season since the All Star Break.

Suddenly their net FTAs spiked way up.

NBA was going to make sure the Lakers got in the playoffs and now they might as well go all the way and help them win a title.
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Post#151 » by iamworthy » Sun May 14, 2023 12:21 am

If you believe in this stuff then why watch...lol
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Post#152 » by beavis15205 » Sun May 14, 2023 12:24 am

iamworthy wrote:If you believe in this stuff then why watch...lol



We won't how did you enjoy us winning all those rings while you were completely irrelevant?
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Post#153 » by iamworthy » Sun May 14, 2023 12:27 am

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iamworthy wrote:If you believe in this stuff then why watch...lol



We won't how did you enjoy us winning all those rings while you were completely irrelevant?


Loved it. Curry, Klay, and Green play a fun brand of basketball. Also, You act like your talking to a fan of a team that has no championships :lol:
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Post#154 » by azwfan » Sun May 14, 2023 12:28 am

We played the same way we played all year. If the refs were tilted towards LAL, it sure looked like the rest of the season.
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Post#155 » by iamworthy » Sun May 14, 2023 12:39 am

Poole and Klay gotta be better, its not rocket science. They'll be back next year.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#156 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sun May 14, 2023 12:47 am

iamworthy wrote:If you believe in this stuff then why watch...lol

I stopped watching after that one game where calls were going one way and not the other. When the Knicks made it past the first round you have to know something’s up. They have to bring ratings up for their contract negotiations and if you think the NBA cares about the integrity of the sport or tens of billions of dollars, it should be obvious all the players will be cheering for big market teams so they can sucker a major media company into committing to back breaking contract.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#157 » by beavis15205 » Sun May 14, 2023 1:24 am

iamworthy wrote:
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iamworthy wrote:If you believe in this stuff then why watch...lol



We won't how did you enjoy us winning all those rings while you were completely irrelevant?


Loved it. Curry, Klay, and Green play a fun brand of basketball. Also, You act like your talking to a fan of a team that has no championships :lol:



It's been a minute though? You frontrunners don't like being irrelevant, personally the asterisk COVID ring barely counts, no travel, tons of rest beforehand for AD and Bron to rest.

I was a Laker fan until Kobe retired, bring in Lebron and no more for me. I was a Warrior fan already dating back to Curry being drafted.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#158 » by iamworthy » Sun May 14, 2023 1:28 am

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iamworthy wrote:
beavis15205 wrote:

We won't how did you enjoy us winning all those rings while you were completely irrelevant?


Loved it. Curry, Klay, and Green play a fun brand of basketball. Also, You act like your talking to a fan of a team that has no championships :lol:



It's been a minute though? You frontrunners don't like being irrelevant, personally the asterisk COVID ring barely counts, no travel, tons of rest beforehand for AD and Bron to rest.

I was a Laker fan until Kobe retired, bring in Lebron and no more for me. I was a Warrior fan already dating back to Curry being drafted.


Whats a while :lol: ? You do realize there are NBA Teams with no championships right? Laker fans are fine :lol: Warrior fans are fine :lol: You seem really upset about the series :lol:
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#159 » by beavis15205 » Sun May 14, 2023 1:40 am

iamworthy wrote:
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iamworthy wrote:
Loved it. Curry, Klay, and Green play a fun brand of basketball. Also, You act like your talking to a fan of a team that has no championships :lol:



It's been a minute though? You frontrunners don't like being irrelevant, personally the asterisk COVID ring barely counts, no travel, tons of rest beforehand for AD and Bron to rest.

I was a Laker fan until Kobe retired, bring in Lebron and no more for me. I was a Warrior fan already dating back to Curry being drafted.


Whats a while :lol: ? You do realize there are NBA Teams with no championships right? Laker fans are fine :lol: Warrior fans are fine :lol: You seem really upset about the series :lol:



Yea, I don't like teams that need officials to win games. When a team needs to shoot 40 free throws to win a game while the other shoots 14 there's an issue.
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Re: There's No Way NBA is Going to let Warriors beat LA 

Post#160 » by Upperclass » Mon May 15, 2023 4:03 am

Sounds like there's also noway they're going to let Den win either.. why go through all of that just to lose to DEN?

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