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Don't get me wrong, Brandin Podziemski is a solid player, a solid prospect.

Lacob:

“He does so many things well. He’s ultra-confident. He’s got an NBA body. He can get wherever he wants. He obviously can shoot threes. He can drive. He can pass. I mean, what can’t he do? We’re really excited. We think we’ve got a future All-Star. We really do.”

Nah dude he's a future journeyman.

Well there ya have it. Owner is infatuated, no wonder the Lauri deal didn't go through. I love Lacob as an owner, but I think he's wrong on this assessment. Yes, BP does a lot of things well, but nothing at an ELITE level and teams ARE going to figure him out / put him on the scouting report. Also not the best dribbler or athlete or finisher, but decent. He's never gonna be a #1 or #2 option, he's never going to be reliable to go out and get you 20 or 30 day in and day out, etc. He's never going to "take over a game" etc. He's a "solid" player with a "solid" future and that's about it. Those types of players are a dime a dozen, easily replaceable, and usually have solid careers but bounce around. You know who isn't? All-star bigs like Lauri Markkanen. Donte Divenzenzo is a solid player too, but he's not gonna be a team's all-star. BP is also a guard. Lauri is a big. That deal should've been a no-brainer given that the W's haven't had an offensive big man presence since KD (although more of a SF) / Bogut / David Lee, and to balance the floor better.

Also, how bout some context? Steph is old, Draymond is old, they probably have 2 years left of hardcore contending for a championship. We ain't gonna go get them some help??? We got a freakin 2nd year player with Brandin Podziemski who's gonna be the guy that gets you in the playoffs? Like, pick a direction / make a decision already Dumbleavy. You can't do both. You're either gonna try to win now for Steph and Draymond or they're gonna be gone from this team in the not so distant future. I think Lacob owes them that. And I doubt Steph & Dray wanted BP over a big who is ALREADY an all-star and is entering his prime and would've fit in perfectly with the Warriors offense... which is probably why Steph is already dropping subtle hints about leaving if they don't get their sht together. As we saw in the Olympics, Steph is still a superstar. Get him some help already. The fact that the Lauri deal didn't get done is pathetic and reminiscent of weak, indecisive, reactionary GM's they've had in their past, overvaluing young players and passing on proven / better / more elite players 'cause "oh no BP might turn out to be ____." Poverty and slowlane mindset instead of being bold / aggressive. Bob Meyers was the fn opposite, Bob Meyers was a BEAST. If he saw an opportunity, he'd go ALL-OUT to get that player and MAKE it happen. Dunleavy is a fragile over-thinker, worried he might make a mistake, instead of realizing not going for it is the mistake. You can even see it in their speech. Bob Meyers was about excellence while Dunleavy is about "I think our team's solid deerr." Yeah bro, Buddy Hield is gonna get you over the hump! Dunleavy is the definition of mediocre.

The Warriors better have the mentality to win now (within reason) or don't be surprised if Steph and Draymond are on different teams soon.

I agree with you but we don't know if Ainge would've compromised or not. We only know what we offered and what they countered with. Ainge countered asking for everything, which is way too much even though I really want Lauri.

Thing is it wasn't just BP, it was BP, Jk plus a ton of picks. Yes, you talk up your assets it's actually considered good business management. Crazy right lol...

He had an amazing rookie year and he's only 21 and will get even better. A journeyman he is not. 100% disagree.

So far lauri is a journeyman.

He has some great qualities like rebounding, ball protection and a nose for the ball. His ability to score is where he will differentiate him from others and I am not sure how much room for growth there is for BP. Hopefully, we will get a glimpse of what we might be able to expect this season.

I'm only cautiously optimistic on Podz, however I like having him on the team because he generally can be counted on to do the right things out there even at a young age, he doesn't play like a late first round rookie at all. He grades out as essentially a neutral to slightly positive player in his first year, which is quite good considering his draft position. He gives Kerr a lot of flexibility (even if Kerr will at times overuse him) and I'd rather have Podz getting thrown out there than stiffs like Jerome, Wannamaker, Chiozza, etc.

Saw this, could be interesting if he can get his TS% up.

DonaldSanders wrote:Saw this, could be interesting if he can get his TS% up.

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I mean taking out the hook shots.. when king of the homers Fitz is laughing about those shots, yeah its time to retire it. But the floaters? Gonna need those.. and going to need pull-up 3s. I said it when I first started watching him.. if he can tighten up his handles and keep working on his shot, his game can be eerily like James Harden. A lesser version, and god-willing a more team-oriented stripper-averse version, but something in that same general area

But in order to do that he's going to need to be more aggressive shooting the ball, like he was in SL. But its SL, so thats nothing

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I mean taking out the hook shots.. when king of the homers Fitz is laughing about those shots, yeah its time to retire it. But the floaters? Gonna need those.. and going to need pull-up 3s. I said it when I first started watching him.. if he can tighten up his handles and keep working on his shot, his game can be eerily like James Harden. A lesser version, and god-willing a more team-oriented stripper-averse version, but something in that same general area

But in order to do that he's going to need to be more aggressive shooting the ball, like he was in SL. But its SL, so thats nothing

The floaters could be good but he definitely needs to improve them. Basically I'm happy that he is open minded to adjusting his shot palate to whatever is higher %. It's just nice to hear he is actively searching for meaningful improvement.

Jax_23 wrote:Don't get me wrong, Brandin Podziemski is a solid player, a solid prospect.

Lacob:

“He does so many things well. He’s ultra-confident. He’s got an NBA body. He can get wherever he wants. He obviously can shoot threes. He can drive. He can pass. I mean, what can’t he do? We’re really excited. We think we’ve got a future All-Star. We really do.”

Nah dude he's a future journeyman.

What would this board be without someone creating a thread where everyone can squat and drop a giant steaming turd on one of the Warriors? Seriously, BP had a fine rookie season. He's just getting started. Give him at least a little time before you're claiming that he's "overrated" or a "journeyman" or whatever other label you want to tag him with.

DonaldSanders wrote:Saw this, could be interesting if he can get his TS% up.

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Really just needs a quicker catch and shoot 3 and he’d be already way more effective. So many times he would pass on the 3 and drive into traffic. Just let it fly. That’s the quickest way for him to be a more impactful player is to get his volume in attempts up.

sound familiar?

If he can somehow develop as a premiere perimeter defender, we'd have the next coming of Jason Kidd on our hands. Right now, he can rebound well for his size, make the crafty passes and score okay.

cpower wrote:sound familiar?

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No actually, not at all.

Onus wrote:

DonaldSanders wrote:Saw this, could be interesting if he can get his TS% up.

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Really just needs a quicker catch and shoot 3 and he’d be already way more effective. So many times he would pass on the 3 and drive into traffic. Just let it fly. That’s the quickest way for him to be a more impactful player is to get his volume in attempts up.

I've been pretty low on Podz but I can admit he has a "not completely unrealistic" shot at a brunson level career. Very similar rookie seasons except Podz was younger and bigger, which should bode well. They both have the post footwork and stepback 3s and are similar of harden in that way but both, even as rookies, were far superior to anything Harden has done off-ball since leaving OKC. Yes, the shot needs to be well above average, from 3 (should get there), FT line (WTF was last year about), and mid range (weird shot mechanics there).

Someone said it last year on this board and I haven't been able to unsee it - he really doesn't have an off the dribble pull-up jumper. All of his shots were either layups, floaters, C&S, or step backs jumpers. I love what podz did in SL because while he dominated like a he was supposed to, he did so while showing a different/better/quicker shot diet than he did as a rookie. He had pull up jumpers from 3 & the mid range and I loved seeing him being way more aggressive on C&S opps. Sure, the closeouts will be quicker once the season starts but it's mostly mental, from what I saw from Podz last year. Less hesitation and a higher FT% and I don't see why he can't be a 6th man of they year level player as soon as next season - Brunson trajectory. He'll start so I'm just using that as a barometer, not saying he'll win the award.

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Straw man much?

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If he can somehow develop as a premiere perimeter defender, we'd have the next coming of Jason Kidd on our hands. Right now, he can rebound well for his size, make the crafty passes and score okay.

Jason Kidd, despite being a POS for many reasons, was one of the best true point guards in league history.. Podz is not even a full-time PG. A comp that I think Evan threw out was one of the more likely outcomes - DDV (at least in terms of impact). Hard to find a real direct comparison for Podz because not only is he a weird archetype, one of his biggest strengths (rebounding) is highlighted in the Warriors switch-heavy system that relies on everyone to crash the boards

When I run his regular stats through models to find historical comparisons, it mostly comes out as good-passing forwards

Podz and 1st rounder for Lauri, ok we can talk. Podz + kuminga + all our 1st rounders and all our pick swaps. ummm no way. Perhaps this is what Dray talked about when he "vetoed" a trade. Let's see what we got with Kuminga and Podz this year.

Nvnervous45 wrote:He had an amazing rookie year and he's only 21 and will get even better. A journeyman he is not. 100% disagree.

We'll see lol. Curious why you think he's going to be Amazing. What skill has he shown that is actually ELITE? I'd say he has good bball iq + jack of all trades, but nothing elite or nothing that really scales. You can get away with it if you're a Jokic or Draymond Green. But those players are more rare -- Jokic is a big fat center with elite bball iq, but he has size, strength, and skill to go along with it. Draymond Green is versatile with elite iq, but he's a defensive superstar + has a long wingspan. BP? He's "solid," but nothing that really makes you think his game is scalable to some ceiling he hasn't already shown.