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We have 2 guys locked in steph and dray.
Melton is my sg if healthy
Great defender at poa and he's hovered around 40% from 3 the last 4 years at around 5 3pta per game.
Wiggins is my SF
We now know why he's been mentally checked out the last 2 years. I want to believe kerr left him at poa so he can be more engaged instead of thinking about his dad.
Great off ball wing stopper. He's also shot near 40% from 3 the last 4 years at 5 3pta per game.
Tjd is my C
Only rim protector we have and is a vertical floor spacer. We can't have dray be a full time C all season.
Melton is my sg if healthy
Great defender at poa and he's hovered around 40% from 3 the last 4 years at around 5 3pta per game.
Wiggins is my SF
We now know why he's been mentally checked out the last 2 years. I want to believe kerr left him at poa so he can be more engaged instead of thinking about his dad.
Great off ball wing stopper. He's also shot near 40% from 3 the last 4 years at 5 3pta per game.
Tjd is my C
Only rim protector we have and is a vertical floor spacer. We can't have dray be a full time C all season.
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Who starts?
Wiggins, Podz, TJD
Who should start?
Wiggins, TJD, Melton
Who should close?
I really want to see Wiggins, 2 of these 3 Melton, Moody or JK, unless Podz really is able to get up 8 3s a game and maintain his percentage then maybe add him to the mix as well.
Wiggins, Podz, TJD
Who should start?
Wiggins, TJD, Melton
Who should close?
I really want to see Wiggins, 2 of these 3 Melton, Moody or JK, unless Podz really is able to get up 8 3s a game and maintain his percentage then maybe add him to the mix as well.
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what a depressing exercise.
I would go:
Steph
Wiggins
Moody
Jk
TJD
What I think it will be:
Steph
Podz
Wiggins
Dray
TJD
I would go:
Steph
Wiggins
Moody
Jk
TJD
What I think it will be:
Steph
Podz
Wiggins
Dray
TJD
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Melton, Kuminga and TJD. I would bring Wiggins off the bench for now. It would be a shame to see Kuminga take a nose dive starting the game on the bench. He's been here and deserves the opportunity/support to earn the big bag or maybe realize he needs to take a slightly smaller bag.
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if we aren't starting kumbuckets this season is pointless
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If they want to win:
Steph
Melton
Wiggins
Dray
TJD
(Note that although Podz/JK would be off the bench, they’d likely get more mins than 1-3 starters
What I expect due to Kerr being as vanilla as possible:
Curry
Podz
Wiggins
Kuminga
Dray
Steph
Melton
Wiggins
Dray
TJD
(Note that although Podz/JK would be off the bench, they’d likely get more mins than 1-3 starters
What I expect due to Kerr being as vanilla as possible:
Curry
Podz
Wiggins
Kuminga
Dray
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Curry
Kuminga
Wiggins
Draymond
TJD
Kuminga
Wiggins
Draymond
TJD
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As far as a full rotation, I think it should be basically a decision tree, especially at backup SF and backup C.. but ideally for me, for both halves:
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
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CDM_Stats wrote:As far as a full rotation, I think it should be basically a decision tree, especially at backup SF and backup C.. but ideally for me, for both halves:
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
I like these rotations, except maybe for that which begins at 3 minutes left in the first quarter. That's the only lineup that lacks Steph but also doesn't have three proven top level defensive players. Perhaps the assumption is that that lineup mostly will face similar mixes of starters and rotation players at that time in most games. Or maybe you have more confidence in Moody than I have, but he hasn't quite shown me enough yet (not his fault, perhaps, but nonetheless).
If they are hoping for a playoff spot in a tough West, I would find a way to get Melton a few more minutes than you have allotted in the first part of the season, if he is healthy. He is a proven defender and his 3 point shooting hovers close to 40%. Then see which among the young guys really is taking a step up, particularly on the defensive end, and then perhaps remix.
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I’d rotate Moody Wiggins and Melton as starters at 2-3. Have each start 2/3 games, then totally sit out the third. Lets each get real run when starting, and gives you a more useful bench if you aren’t trying to squeeze Moses in for 18 minutes.
Lets you see who is really doing well. Also lets you prop up trade value in the first couple of months for a bunch of guys.
Won’t ever happen,
Lets you see who is really doing well. Also lets you prop up trade value in the first couple of months for a bunch of guys.
Won’t ever happen,
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all left wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:As far as a full rotation, I think it should be basically a decision tree, especially at backup SF and backup C.. but ideally for me, for both halves:
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
I like these rotations, except maybe for that which begins at 3 minutes left in the first quarter. That's the only lineup that lacks Steph but also doesn't have three proven top level defensive players. Perhaps the assumption is that that lineup mostly will face similar mixes of starters and rotation players at that time in most games. Or maybe you have more confidence in Moody than I have, but he hasn't quite shown me enough yet (not his fault, perhaps, but nonetheless).
If they are hoping for a playoff spot in a tough West, I would find a way to get Melton a few more minutes than you have allotted in the first part of the season, if he is healthy. He is a proven defender and his 3 point shooting hovers close to 40%. Then see which among the young guys really is taking a step up, particularly on the defensive end, and then perhaps remix.
There's probably a way around it, but I like having a chunk of time where younger/less appreciated players can step up. That would be Podz, Moody and JK's time to step up while having a spacer in Hield and a good floor guy like SloMo there. Moody is one of the more underappreciated guys in the league - per minute, he's brought more +/- impact than JK, yet he's always fighting for minutes. Good to great off-ball defender, excellent rebounder for a wing (above average for a forward). His usage is one of the more baffling things about Kerr, and that says a lot because there are plenty of choices
I like Melton too, but he's a 3&D guy with some handles. Ironically if the team makes it in the playoffs, he'll be way more important, but regular season.. he's more of a luxury. System is designed to tolerate bad on-ball defenders (see #1 defense with Jordan Poole at POA) and his off-ball defense is slightly above average per metrics. I think somewhere in the 24-28mpg is about right for him, unless he develops an offensive game inside the arc somehow. Not much of a playmaker or finisher.. funny enough, he profiles a lot like Moody - an above average role player that can shoot well enough to stay on the court for 20+ minutes and hustles like hell
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CDM_Stats wrote:As far as a full rotation, I think it should be basically a decision tree, especially at backup SF and backup C.. but ideally for me, for both halves:
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
Jk considers himself a sf in his latest interview with tk. Slomo might be getting more minutes while wiggins, moody, and gp2 get even less.
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I would like to see
Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
TJD
Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
TJD
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CDM_Stats wrote:all left wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:As far as a full rotation, I think it should be basically a decision tree, especially at backup SF and backup C.. but ideally for me, for both halves:
Curry/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD to start
at Q1 6:00, bring in Podz for Melton and bring in JK for Dray
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/TJD
at 3:00, bring in SloMo for TJD, Moody for Wiggins, Hield for Curry
Podz/Hield/Moody/JK/SloMo
at Q2 9:00 bring in Dray for JK, Melton for Hield
Podz/Melton/Moody/Dray/SloMo
at 6:00 bring in Steph for Podz, GP2 for Moody, JK for Looney
Curry/Melton/GP2/JK/Dray
at 3:00 bring in Wiggins for GP2,and Podz for Melton
Curry/Podz/Wiggins/JK/Dray
If rigidly following this, full-game minutes are
Curry (30) / Podz (18)
Melton (24) / Hield (12) / Podz (12)
Wiggins (24) / Moody (18) / GP2 (6)
Dray (18) / Kuminga (30)
TJD (18) / SloMo (18) / Dray (12)
The C position (TJD/SloMo/Looney) and the SF position (Wiggins/Moody/GP2) should be more of a hot-hand approach. But the 4 guys leading in minutes would be Curry/Dray/Podz/JK with Melton and Wiggins in the 2nd tier. 3rd tier is Moody, TJD, SloMo and Hield. 5th tier is GP2/Looney
I like these rotations, except maybe for that which begins at 3 minutes left in the first quarter. That's the only lineup that lacks Steph but also doesn't have three proven top level defensive players. Perhaps the assumption is that that lineup mostly will face similar mixes of starters and rotation players at that time in most games. Or maybe you have more confidence in Moody than I have, but he hasn't quite shown me enough yet (not his fault, perhaps, but nonetheless).
If they are hoping for a playoff spot in a tough West, I would find a way to get Melton a few more minutes than you have allotted in the first part of the season, if he is healthy. He is a proven defender and his 3 point shooting hovers close to 40%. Then see which among the young guys really is taking a step up, particularly on the defensive end, and then perhaps remix.
There's probably a way around it, but I like having a chunk of time where younger/less appreciated players can step up. That would be Podz, Moody and JK's time to step up while having a spacer in Hield and a good floor guy like SloMo there. Moody is one of the more underappreciated guys in the league - per minute, he's brought more +/- impact than JK, yet he's always fighting for minutes. Good to great off-ball defender, excellent rebounder for a wing (above average for a forward). His usage is one of the more baffling things about Kerr, and that says a lot because there are plenty of choices
I like Melton too, but he's a 3&D guy with some handles. Ironically if the team makes it in the playoffs, he'll be way more important, but regular season.. he's more of a luxury. System is designed to tolerate bad on-ball defenders (see #1 defense with Jordan Poole at POA) and his off-ball defense is slightly above average per metrics. I think somewhere in the 24-28mpg is about right for him, unless he develops an offensive game inside the arc somehow. Not much of a playmaker or finisher.. funny enough, he profiles a lot like Moody - an above average role player that can shoot well enough to stay on the court for 20+ minutes and hustles like hell
That all makes sense to me-- particularly because Moody and JK are at the point where they need to step up. One thing that makes that a least somewhat more likely is if the coach is showing confidence in your ability to step up, enough so that you can rely on your place in the rotation and just go out and play, even if there are some bumps in the road. I'm less down on Kerr than many on this board seem to be, but his weaknesses have to do with being somewhat conservative/risk averse, and that's the kind of thing he seems to find hardest to do.
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It's Kerr. It doesn't matter and outside of Steph and Draymond is going to change a dozen times throughout the year anyway due to matchups, experimentation, performance, and injuries/availability.
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wiggins kuminga podz
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Moody?
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My starting 5:
Curry
Podz
Corey Joseph
Nico Manion
Chiozza
Kerr about to teach the basketball world a lesson: small ball works, especially with this group -- his all-time favorite Warrior players.
Curry
Podz
Corey Joseph
Nico Manion
Chiozza
Kerr about to teach the basketball world a lesson: small ball works, especially with this group -- his all-time favorite Warrior players.
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People sleeping on Podz again...
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