Should the Warriors make a trade?

[Twinkie defense]

Warriors are 12-4, top of the Western Conference, and are tied for the League's third-best record. Who would have thought?

Stephen Curry and Draymond Green have great, MJD's new pieces have been a good fit, and Strength in Numbers is a thing again.

That said, this isn't the Dynasty Warriors of years' past, there are some holes, and a major piece - De'Anthony Melton - is out for the season.

So where should the Warriors go from here? Should they stay pat, ride the hot hand? Should they make a move? And if so, do they need to swing for the fences, or fiddle around the edges?

[CDM_Stats]

The big trade option died in the offseason... the only viable course now is to try and be the 03-04 Pistons with a couple stars and a lot of good fitting depth used correctly

The only hole I see that's problematic is at PG. Podz had the luxury of playing with CP3/Steph most of the time last year and wasnt asked to run an offense. Take that off his plate and see if he can impact the game better. And once, or if, Hield and Looney start, we can run the same title-winning playbook as 3 years go. Steph can still go, Looney and Wiggins are in their physical primes and doing well, only big concern there is Dray's perimeter defense, which is showing signs of decline. If it can hold though, and if we make teams adjust to us instead of trying to play their style.. top 10 team with a puncher's chance. I think adding someone like Schroeder - dont know if he qualifies as a big swing or fiddling tbh - would fit the team's needs as well as anyone who's available, and definitely increase their chances for a title. Probably more so than Melton would have

Also that trade would need to be as soon as Melton's eligible to be dealt, 12/15. The team typically does not add players at the deadline. GP2 was the one exception, and him being already familiar with the system made that viable

[whatisacenter]

This roster was built for a trade....it will be disappointing if the FO doesn't make one.

Small moves - Coling Sexton/Coby White/Dennis Schroder

Big move - Giannis

[Coxy]

If the right player becomes available, sure of course.

[Jester_]

pretty much what's been said already. we have a team that's not a contender.... but close. a piece like schroeder may be what pushes us over the edge

[Crazy-Canuck]

This roster was built for a trade....it will be disappointing if the FO doesn't make one.

Small moves - Coling Sexton/Coby White/Dennis Schroder

Big move - Giannis

There is no big move. Not possible.

[wco81]

Schroeder is playing really well, has turned himself into a bulldog defender in recent years.

But he's had AD and Claxton behind him and the Warriors don't have that kind of rim protection.

Also he's good against top PGs and maybe some 2s and 3s but he would be vulnerable to being posted.

The other caveat is what they say about small guards who rely on athleticism as they're on the down side of age 30.

But I guess GSW wouldn't necessarily give him a big contract, may just be a rental. He blew it rejecting the Lakers' offer a couple of years ago so he's going to look to get paid in the next offseason.

So the Warriors can't give up too many assets and the Nets will be looking for draft picks.

[whatisacenter]

This roster was built for a trade....it will be disappointing if the FO doesn't make one.

Small moves - Coling Sexton/Coby White/Dennis Schroder

Big move - Giannis

There is no big move. Not possible.

Why not?

[superunknown]

they must move kuminga podz and melton at this point and throw in a couple of first.

[Onus]

Yes everyone but Steph, dray and wiggins should be on the table. A real back up pg and someone who is taller than 6’6” that can shoot and defend would be preferable.

[CDM_Stats]

they must move kuminga podz and melton at this point and throw in a couple of first.

Melton - obvious, have to

JK - I think we have to move him at some point too. Team is in a no-win situation with him. If he continues to be solid as a bench scorer, he'll probably try and price himself out of that role, and he's really not that good outside that role. I'd love to move him for Schroder, who can also attack the rim well, but with the added bonus of being a credible shooter, a much better passer (Schroder is better at finding perimeter players, which we have in spades) and a better defender. JK's got some good downhill vision, but he only sees what he sees. A guy like Schroder orchestrates a lot more

Podz - I think we're playing the guy out of position. He's not the same archetype, but I think of GP2 a lot when I see him play PG. He's just not a PG. Don't play him like one, let him be a connector, an energy rebounder, and if he gets left open, take the shot. At this point his value probably doesnt look great anyways

[superunknown]

they must move kuminga podz and melton at this point and throw in a couple of first.

Melton - obvious, have to

JK - I think we have to move him at some point too. Team is in a no-win situation with him. If he continues to be solid as a bench scorer, he'll probably try and price himself out of that role, and he's really not that good outside that role. I'd love to move him for Schroder, who can also attack the rim well, but with the added bonus of being a credible shooter, a much better passer (Schroder is better at finding perimeter players, which we have in spades) and a better defender. JK's got some good downhill vision, but he only sees what he sees. A guy like Schroder orchestrates a lot more

Podz - I think we're playing the guy out of position. He's not the same archetype, but I think of GP2 a lot when I see him play PG. He's just not a PG. Don't play him like one, let him be a connector, an energy rebounder, and if he gets left open, take the shot. At this point his value probably doesnt look great anyways

I agree with your comments, but about podz his value could look less great by the day so better trade him now than risking another wiseman case (value totally plummeted).
they should've traded kuminga and podz in the offseason, it's never too late.

[superunknown]

Yes everyone but Steph, dray and wiggins should be on the table. A real back up pg and someone who is taller than 6’6” that can shoot and defend would be preferable.

schroeder+poetl for example.

[Onus]

They should’ve traded the farm for Lauri and then picked up fultz as a backup for melton

[whatisacenter]

Schroder would be a good replacement for Melton.

Podz has really struggled this season. It's hard to watch.

[EvanZ]

The time to trade Podz was over the summer. Unfortunately Lacob called him an untouchable future All-Star and he’ll probably never have the same trade value again. Ironically Kuminga doesn’t look anything like a max player and I would imagine he’s actually more tradable now because of that. Best thing we did over the summer was give Moody a steal of an extension. Looks like nothing else will matter long term.

[B-King]

There is no big trade that makes sense at this point. That window is gone. Micro deal using either Melton, Podz, GPII and or picks should be considered. Really need to sell Podz while his value is decent. He is a poor man's DDV.

[Twinkie defense]

JK... I'd love to move him for Schroder

That's an interesting proposition. When I asked if giving up a first (plus Melton) was too much - obviously the Warriors 2025 first looks to be a very late first round pick - folks weren't buying and I thought about Kuminga (young piece for a rebuilding team) and figured Warriors fans would rebel at the idea putting him in a deal for Schröder. Obviously, gotta make the salaries match up, but do you think the Nets would put a protected future first into that deal?

A more or less straight player for player swap sending Kuminga to the Nets for Schröder is version 2.0 of the Wiseman for GPII trade - but the Warriors and their fans value Kuminga a lot higher than they did Wiseman. (But then again Wiseman wasn't looking for a new $30 mil+ per year contract.)

[CDM_Stats]

JK... I'd love to move him for Schroder

That's an interesting proposition. When I asked if giving up a first (plus Melton) was too much - obviously the Warriors 2025 first looks to be a very late first round pick - folks weren't buying and I thought about Kuminga (young piece for a rebuilding team) and figured Warriors fans would rebel at the idea putting him in a deal for Schröder. Obviously, gotta make the salaries match up, but do you think the Nets would put a protected future first into that deal?

A more or less straight player for player swap sending Kuminga to the Nets for Schröder is version 2.0 of the Wiseman for GPII trade - but the Warriors and their fans value Kuminga a lot higher than they did Wiseman. (But then again Wiseman wasn't looking for a new $30 mil+ per year contract.)

W's fans rebelled when we traded D-Lo for Wiggins so I dont put too much stock into that.. people have a hard time understanding fit until they see it sometimes

Truth is, aside from dunking, Schroder brings everything that Kuminga does, with the added benefit of being a better shooter, defender, and possibly signing for a reasonable contract. If Schroder's value is so low, then retaining him for an additional 3-45 to be the slashing PG we could put next to Curry in a death lineup would be fantastic. Schroder/Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray as a closing 5? That's a tough defensive assignment for most teams, maybe all

As for value, I think the Warriors would likely need to add to make it make sense. Warriors dont typically add players mid-season, or at least new players.. so need to incentivize the Nets to make the deal on 12/15 instead of waiting til February, where they may still charge the same price and we've lost 2-3 months of time to integrate him into the system. I said Melton/JK/1st for Schroder/Ziaire (who looks like a younger, more athletic JTA to me). Backfills the PF spot a bit but also incentivizes the Nets to act, and the Warriors to keep Schroder. Who probably wont get a better chance to compete and get paid than that

[Twinkie defense]

I feel like the Warriors (Lacob?) are too invested in Kuminga to trade him in a deal that doesn't bring a legit star back. But maybe Kuminga's salary demands and play to open the season are changing that.