Dennis Schröder looks like a turd since coming over from Brooklyn...

[Old_Blue]

.276 shooting / .091 on three pointers / -22 average +/-

Seriously, if Schröder came over to be a tank commander, it would have been nice to have a little heads up.

[Onus]

It was predictable. We have no spacing for him and his play style. He went from a team playing 4-5 out every night to a team playing 1 out. There was no way he was going to continue his career year with less spacing.

[Onus]

People were looking at his stats saying he can shoot and he can finish, but those things are a lot easier when the help is coming from the 3 point line rather than waiting in the paint for you.

Also he’s not a spacer. His shot is slow af.

[DonaldSanders]

He's a career 53.3% TS guy, he was shooting hot on the Nets and so far has been shooting below his average with the Warriors. He'll look better, but anyone expecting the full Nets Schroder was duped by a small sample size. Career negative BPM, 0.0 EPM for #156th in the league. On his 8th team for a reason. A good pickup for us, but overall doesn't push the needle in a meaningful way.

He's a decent backup PG, but the league knew he wasn't worth more than the 2SRP + injured player he cost. Some fans were high on delusion thinking he would solve all our woes, or that he was worth far more.

[Jester_]

among other things he should be our bench PG with the ball in his hands and hield should be our starting off gaurd

but our dumbass coach thinks he's Melton i guess idk have given up trying to understand

[Crazy-Canuck]

I was under the impression that he was brought in to be a secondary ball handler and to run the second unit. NOT be our starting sg. He needs to either play fast and pound the ball for 20 seconds or put some shooters around him (which we can't due to poor roster construction and kerr).

Again, it's still early. But, there are some things you can take away from his 2 games.

He needs a pnr finisher: tjd
He can't play with loon. Loon just wants to create space on a screen rather than be a play finisher.
He isn't a shooter, he never was. So expecting him to be one now is a fools errand. Much like every player on this team, we need to surround him with steph, heild, and even wiggins. Problem is that that maximizes them, but not the other players.
He loves to pound the ball, so motion isn't comfortable for him (and might not ever). This puts steph, wiggins, and even dray in a bind of you want to start him.

Much like a lot of our players. Put them in a position to succeed and we likely get better results. We are not a plug and play team around steph and dray.

If jk can continue to play within the system, I might start him over tjd and continue to start loon. Tjd is too much of a team defense killer.

I dont know what's going on with dray, but he isn't helping anyone right now. You can live with 1 guy (steph) with bad turnovers, but not 2 (dray). Especially when that guy isn't doing enough to mitigate it.

[cdubbz]

I was under the impression that he was brought in to be a secondary ball handler and to run the second unit. NOT be our starting sg. He needs to either play fast and pound the ball for 20 seconds or put some shooters around him (which we can't due to poor roster construction and kerr).

Again, it's still early. But, there are some things you can take away from his 2 games.

He needs a pnr finisher: tjd
He can't play with loon. Loon just wants to create space on a screen rather than be a play finisher.
He isn't a shooter, he never was. So expecting him to be one now is a fools errand. Much like every player on this team, we need to surround him with steph, heild, and even wiggins. Problem is that that maximizes them, but not the other players.
He loves to pound the ball, so motion isn't comfortable for him (and might not ever). This puts steph, wiggins, and even dray in a bind of you want to start him.

Much like a lot of our players. Put them in a position to succeed and we likely get better results. We are not a plug and play team around steph and dray.

If jk can continue to play within the system, I might start him over tjd and continue to start loon. Tjd is too much of a team defense killer.

I dont know what's going on with dray, but he isn't helping anyone right now. You can live with 1 guy (steph) with bad turnovers, but not 2 (dray). Especially when that guy isn't doing enough to mitigate it.

Me too, but we all know Kerr is just seeing how lineups play in real time. So far it's looked pretty bad, but it's only been a few games. I would like to see Curry, Hield, Wiggins, Green, TJD start with Shroder, Kuminga, Looney be the first 3 off the bench. Shroder comes in for Steph at his usual time in the 1st quarter and JK for Green.

[jaymo123]

After tonight, I don't think Schroder knows what to do when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Might as well call him Kuminga lite.

[Onus]

How many games does Schroeder start?

[floppymoose]

The DS/TDJ pnr doesnt work at all. Both defenders just stay under.

[Crazy-Canuck]

The DS/TDJ pnr doesnt work at all. Both defenders just stay under.

Now add gp2, jk, and podz as the floor spacers. That's what Kerr puts out there.

[Onus]

The DS/TDJ pnr doesnt work at all. Both defenders just stay under.

Now add gp2, jk, and podz as the floor spacers. That's what Kerr puts out there.

If Kerr played a lineup of ds/buddy/waters/moody/tjd or jk I think ds could thrive. But that will never happen because of politics or Kerr just stuck in the 90s.

[Old_Blue]

After tonight's game, Schröder is shooting 17% from three and 28% overall with the Dubs. He's averaging a putrid -16 +/- In short, he's been pathetic.

[KevinMcreynolds]

There’s a reason he’s on a new team every year

[vvoland]

He's mostly making good offensive decisions and the shot selection, especially on the 3s, is pretty good. He has a funky shot and leg kick so it looks particularly bad when it's not hitting. He'll progress back to the mean, unless the bottom falls out on his shot, which isn't impossible

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

After tonight, I don't think Schroder knows what to do when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Might as well call him Kuminga lite.

Kuminga and Schrooder need the ball in their hands so do not play them together. Schorooder drive and kick should produce open 3s for Moody, Hield and Waters but Schrooder is not a great passer just good at driving.

[Anderson Hunt]

Can he still be included in a trade?

[DonaldSanders]

Can he still be included in a trade?

Yes, but only at the end of the trade deadline. I highly doubt we trade him unless it was for another guy who can handle the ball.

I watched a video highlighting how confused Dennis was on some plays early on, so while he had some growing pains, unsurprisingly some of it has been from learning the Warrior Way. Hope he can retain the hotter shooting he's had the last few games.

[Anderson Hunt]

Can he still be included in a trade?

Yes, but only at the end of the trade deadline. I highly doubt we trade him unless it was for another guy who can handle the ball.

I watched a video highlighting how confused Dennis was on some plays early on, so while he had some growing pains, unsurprisingly some of it has been from learning the Warrior Way. Hope he can retain the hotter shooting he's had the last few games.

This doesn't make sense, my friend.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Can he still be included in a trade?

Yes, but only at the end of the trade deadline. I highly doubt we trade him unless it was for another guy who can handle the ball.

I watched a video highlighting how confused Dennis was on some plays early on, so while he had some growing pains, unsurprisingly some of it has been from learning the Warrior Way. Hope he can retain the hotter shooting he's had the last few games.

This doesn't make sense, my friend.

Schroeder is clearly struggling with the system.

Its one thing to learn motion on the fly and its another to learn to play with steph and dray on the fly. Warriors system relies on trust and knowing how to play with the tendencies of the players around you: think fast and act fast. And when someone misses a read or doesnt go where they should be, we get breakdowns. Schroeder isn't kd, so he needs to learn motion for the team to get better. Or just play pnr with jk/tjd/etc..off the bench and much like jk, still get 30 minutes and close games.

Schroeder is getting better but it's hard to be consistent with it because its so easy to relapse to the old ways.

In 2020, the dubs brought in 2 Uber athletic wings to play in the system. 1 got it while the other never did. Hopefully, Schroeder gets it. And gets it quick.