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Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1?
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Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1?
The Suns want to make a deal. Actually more than one deal. They want to get Jimmy Butler. Their record is about what the Warriors record is. They have KD and they've been a disappointment. Are they giving up? Are they talking about not mortgaging the future? Are they going to do nothing like the Warriors at the deadline?
No.
They just dealt with Danny Ainge and managed to get 3 1st round picks for the price of one. Ainge is gambling that that one 1st round pick will be more valuable than the other 3. The Suns don't care. They care about winning. Going for it. And guess what? They didn't mortgage their future either. Now, it might not work out. Butler might not make that much of a difference. But it's more likely that he WILL make a difference and at least give them a chance in the next few years.
The Warriors, instead, have assumed the fetal position (again) and refuse to improve the team even in the slightest. Almost anyone on here could do so little to improve the team as Dunleavy and Lacob.
They're frauds and fakes. They're disgusting.
And I'm so tired of seeing other teams try to win and the Warriors being the most valuable franchise in the NBA because of Steph Curry and doing NOTHING.
Freak them.
No.
They just dealt with Danny Ainge and managed to get 3 1st round picks for the price of one. Ainge is gambling that that one 1st round pick will be more valuable than the other 3. The Suns don't care. They care about winning. Going for it. And guess what? They didn't mortgage their future either. Now, it might not work out. Butler might not make that much of a difference. But it's more likely that he WILL make a difference and at least give them a chance in the next few years.
The Warriors, instead, have assumed the fetal position (again) and refuse to improve the team even in the slightest. Almost anyone on here could do so little to improve the team as Dunleavy and Lacob.
They're frauds and fakes. They're disgusting.
And I'm so tired of seeing other teams try to win and the Warriors being the most valuable franchise in the NBA because of Steph Curry and doing NOTHING.
Freak them.
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The Suns might be in a bad place moving forward but at least they tried to win.
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I’m glad we are not the Suns.
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Sure they could have done just like the Suns and gotten what will likely be 3 end of the first round picks-being that they will likely be 3 picks from the team that just happens to have the best record in the East in Cleveland- for a pick from a Phoenix team that KD and Butler will have long since retired and Booker may or may not be there by the time it conveys.
Brilliant move by Ainge imo. Does what he always does-feasts on win now teams that usually have new ownership
Brilliant move by Ainge imo. Does what he always does-feasts on win now teams that usually have new ownership
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You want to be the Suns? Really?
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Probably.. I thought that was a good deal for the Suns. Shows they are serious about making upgrades in the short term.
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floppymoose wrote:You want to be the Suns? Really?
You want to be the Warriors? Really?
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Instead of the Suns? Yes.
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whatisacenter wrote:I’m glad we are not the Suns.
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
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There is some analysis of the deal here: viewtopic.php?p=116649652#p116649652
I really hate this for the Suns but I guess we'll see how it works out.
I really hate this for the Suns but I guess we'll see how it works out.
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Jester_ wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I’m glad we are not the Suns.
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
Butler can’t get you a ton of picks NOW, much less in a year or two. Same for KD in a year or two. Booker maybe. He’ll also be making damn near $60 mil
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NW wrote:Jester_ wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I’m glad we are not the Suns.
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
Butler can’t get you a ton of picks NOW, much less in a year or two. Same for KD in a year or two. Booker maybe. He’ll also be making damn near $60 mil
KD will have 1 year left on his contract this offseason and is still playing at a new MVP level. he's netting at least a few FRPs easily.
D book is 28 and a seasoned all star. again, he's easily worth a truckload of picks or young guys.
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floppymoose wrote:There is some analysis of the deal here: viewtopic.php?p=116649652#p116649652
I really hate this for the Suns but I guess we'll see how it works out.
It's actually a great deal for the Suns since now they get to send out their own picks in 26 and 28. Yea they're going to go deeper into their hole that they're digging but they are trying to win a championship with KD. Maybe Ishbia sells in a couple years when KD is a shell and he has no more avenues to extract value from the future, but he's giving KD and Booker everything that he can to help win a title with them. I'd take Ishbia over Sarver every day
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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Jester_ wrote:NW wrote:Jester_ wrote:
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
Butler can’t get you a ton of picks NOW, much less in a year or two. Same for KD in a year or two. Booker maybe. He’ll also be making damn near $60 mil
KD will have 1 year left on his contract this offseason and is still playing at a new MVP level. he's netting at least a few FRPs easily.
D book is 28 and a seasoned all star. again, he's easily worth a truckload of picks or young guys.
KDs also getting older, missed 10 games already and we’re talking 2 years from now at least-assuming he gives at least that long to the Butler core if not more.
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Onus wrote:floppymoose wrote:There is some analysis of the deal here: viewtopic.php?p=116649652#p116649652
I really hate this for the Suns but I guess we'll see how it works out.
It's actually a great deal for the Suns since now they get to send out their own picks in 26 and 28. Yea they're going to go deeper into their hole that they're digging but they are trying to win a championship with KD. Maybe Ishbia sells in a couple years when KD is a shell and he has no more avenues to extract value from the future, but he's giving KD and Booker everything that he can to help win a title with them. I'd take Ishbia over Sarver every day
That assumes the picks are not headed out to move Beal and bring in Butler
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Jester_ wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I’m glad we are not the Suns.
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
He swung for the fences last year and got
swept.
Go find me some suns fans who like this owner
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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NW wrote:Onus wrote:floppymoose wrote:There is some analysis of the deal here: viewtopic.php?p=116649652#p116649652
I really hate this for the Suns but I guess we'll see how it works out.
It's actually a great deal for the Suns since now they get to send out their own picks in 26 and 28. Yea they're going to go deeper into their hole that they're digging but they are trying to win a championship with KD. Maybe Ishbia sells in a couple years when KD is a shell and he has no more avenues to extract value from the future, but he's giving KD and Booker everything that he can to help win a title with them. I'd take Ishbia over Sarver every day
That assumes the picks are not headed out to move Beal and bring in Butler
Butler should fit better than Beal, but the Suns need youth and athleticism so Butler probably won't fix them they like they think it will. But you know what I dont blame Ishbia at all. He wants to win so badly that he's willing to trade everything that he can for KDs last 2 years. It's admirable and misguided at the same time, but really that's all you want out of an owner who sees a short window and is willing to do everything to open it up. Meanwhile we have Lacob who's like we've won enough, I'd rather see if a window opens up 5 years from now rather than trying to help our GOAT who is still drawing 2 to the ball every game.
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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whatisacenter wrote:Jester_ wrote:whatisacenter wrote:I’m glad we are not the Suns.
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
He swung for the fences last year and got
swept.
Go find me some suns fans who like this owner
Suns fans rather have Sarver?
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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Onus wrote:whatisacenter wrote:Jester_ wrote:
Ishbia is swinging for the fences, and if it fails, he can flip KD, Jimmy and Booker for a metric **** of picks
you guys don't want to be the suns because you have no vision and enjoy treadmilling
some of you don't seem to have any understanding of how ass GSW and it's prospects currently are
He swung for the fences last year and got
swept.
Go find me some suns fans who like this owner
Suns fans rather have Sarver?
Did I say that?
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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That's a crazy haul, but it shows you that all first round picks are not created equal. A late first round pick is nice to have but it's very, very unlikely that pick is going to get you a good player. Fans like to treat all first round picks the same but you can bet front offices are not doing that.
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