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Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#1 » by ILOVEIT » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:28 am

26,18, 14, 21....The last four games of our super star...

So, I looked to see where Curry was ranked in scoring.....I thought....top 10...maybe 15?

He's 26th in the league in scoring folks. Our super star, the guy that is supposed to lead a good team to a chip in the next three years is 26th in the league in scoring, 36....and....???

Am I being too harsh or are we all sort of drinking cool-aide here thinking that Curry is even a top 10 player right now? We go wild on a 31 point night....But the reality is he's not a good defender anymore (when younger he didn't hurt us) and now there are a ton of guys that score in the high 20's and 30's.

Like most legends, Curry is starting to lean too much on reputation. When was the last big game against another big name that he showed the will or skill to dominate the game?

I think it's time we all moved on from "if only we gave me a solid to good team and Curry would do the rest". Those days are gone.

BTW, Lebron James, 39, averages more than Curry night now. :(
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#2 » by SpreeS » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:53 am

This was predictable before season and was totally clear after two months. Here no one wants to see it and talks nonsense in every post about how good he is and how can he lead to another championship if not bad teammates. The game is over. And the worst thing isn’t his decline, but his contract size and wanting to compete. Its a loop.

This is way I was against all trades for other washed max players like Butler/George or borderline Allstar player in Lauri and thousands picks, because this hasn’t sense.
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#3 » by DonaldSanders » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:37 am

You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#4 » by superunknown » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:49 am

threads like these are as silly as useless.
the guy is doubled if not tripled-teammed every effing game, opponents literally throw the sinks at him because there is no one else on the floor demanding attention, he has no help whatsoever offensively, but it's deemed not a #1 option on a chip team.
give the guy (now, not in 2029) a legit second violin and then let's see if it's not capable to be that go-to-guy. it's a team sport, it's not tennis, as good as you are you can only do so much with the pieces around you. that applies to every single player.
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#5 » by jozef » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:46 am

Playing in dwarf lineups.
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Post#6 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:47 am

He's exhausted. Teams are face guarding him full and often sending doubles and triples at him. And because kerr is busting out these midget line ups, teams are isolating and getting steph in the post. That's alot of energy expended.

Same thing is happening to wiggins. Playing both ends and help carrying the offensive load is taking its toll. He has no legs in his 3 pt shot.

Without help, both guys are just drained.

Looking at the lakers, even with out bron or ad , reeves can take his turn. We have heild and schroeder.
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Post#7 » by Jester_ » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:48 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Yep lol this is the same guy that was arguing with me because he wanted to trade Steph for a 33 year old Gasol in 2012
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#8 » by Old_Blue » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:16 pm

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DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Yep lol this is the same guy that was arguing with me because he wanted to trade Steph for a 33 year old Gasol in 2012


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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#9 » by Coxy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:38 pm

He's just older now.

Kareem said it best, when he stated that when you're older you still have it, however you just can't bring it every night.
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#10 » by Jester_ » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:07 pm

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Jester_ wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Yep lol this is the same guy that was arguing with me because he wanted to trade Steph for a 33 year old Gasol in 2012


What are you squawking about? Based on the things you post, you very clearly use RealGM as a substitute for outpatient psychiatric treatment. :crazy:


and you follow me around like your ex wife, pipe down
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Post#11 » by ILOVEIT » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:39 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Donald....thought I blocked you lol

So you DO think he's still a top ten player and he DOES have the stamina at 36 to lead a solid/good team to a chip without another super star? Can't have it both ways.

If Curry can't will a Warriors team past Toronto, then give me a fricken break. In losses like that he DID have help in Adrew Wiggins. IF Curry is still a dominant top 10 player he should be lighting the net on fire in the big games. He's not. Not his fault, he's just much older. I'm just calling it like it is. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
 
For the record, my concern on Curry before 2022 was that he failed to show up peak Curry in the biggest moments - Iggy got the MVP for a reason in 2015....and LeBron and Kyrie came back from 1-3 in 2016 for a reason. Durant took and made the dagger shots to bury LeBron in both title years. In 2022, Curry proved he could do it. And when I guy cries and sits on the floor and get's the finals MVP for the first time....I'm betting he doubted himself too.
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Re: Curry not a #1 option on a chip team any longer 

Post#12 » by floppymoose » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:18 pm

Yah, I was talking about this back in October. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2409433. I really wanted to start the blow it up thread back then, but the olympic performance made me pause that thought.
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Post#13 » by DonaldSanders » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:02 am

ILOVEIT wrote:So you DO think he's still a top ten player and he DOES have the stamina at 36 to lead a solid/good team to a chip without another super star? Can't have it both ways.


I think he's a top 10 player, but clearly on the edge there with this season's down performance. The question is what he'd look like with a real #2 option. I think he'd look a lot better, and we'd worry less about his off nights, which all players have I don't think he needs a super star teammate like Luka, but if he had another top 20 guy alongside him like AD or Kyrie you'd see a different level of Curry.

No other star I watch gets doubled out to half court like Curry frequently does (obviously not every game, and the Lakers didn't play him like that, but he did have a bad shooting night). So the defense definitely reacts to Curry like he's a top 10 guy, though obviously part of the doubling strategy is that the rest of the Warriors stink.

I think it's fair for anyone to question whether an almost 37 year old can be the #1 on a title team (he will be 37 before the playoffs). That premise itself is questionable, but I think Curry could do it, only with a significantly better team, one we'll almost surely never see. It would need to be a very strong supporting cast. I just think you personally are the wrong guy to call him out, given your very poor and incorrect history regarding Steph.


If Curry can't will a Warriors team past Toronto, then give me a fricken break. In losses like that he DID have help in Adrew Wiggins. IF Curry is still a dominant top 10 player he should be lighting the net on fire in the big games. He's not. Not his fault, he's just much older. I'm just calling it like it is. Don't get your panties in a bunch.


Using random regular season games as a barometer is how you came to your prior terrible, dishonorable views on Curry before he won more championships. I guess you are in the group of guys who wanted to trade him a long time ago and just kept doubling down on their bad takes. What a sad way to have experienced the dynasty.

 
For the record, my concern on Curry before 2022 was that he failed to show up peak Curry in the biggest moments - Iggy got the MVP for a reason in 2015....and LeBron and Kyrie came back from 1-3 in 2016 for a reason. Durant took and made the dagger shots to bury LeBron in both title years. In 2022, Curry proved he could do it. And when I guy cries and sits on the floor and get's the finals MVP for the first time....I'm betting he doubted himself too.


Written like you aren't a Warrior fan :lol: Stats show Steph was by far the more important player in the Durant years, and it's not even close. You realize Ty Lue already admitted they prioritized Steph as the #1, right? Just stop posting about Curry, you always embarass yourself.
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Post#14 » by superunknown » Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:18 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Donald....thought I blocked you lol

So you DO think he's still a top ten player and he DOES have the stamina at 36 to lead a solid/good team to a chip without another super star? Can't have it both ways.

If Curry can't will a Warriors team past Toronto, then give me a fricken break. In losses like that he DID have help in Adrew Wiggins. IF Curry is still a dominant top 10 player he should be lighting the net on fire in the big games. He's not. Not his fault, he's just much older. I'm just calling it like it is. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
 
For the record, my concern on Curry before 2022 was that he failed to show up peak Curry in the biggest moments - Iggy got the MVP for a reason in 2015....and LeBron and Kyrie came back from 1-3 in 2016 for a reason. Durant took and made the dagger shots to bury LeBron in both title years. In 2022, Curry proved he could do it. And when I guy cries and sits on the floor and get's the finals MVP for the first time....I'm betting he doubted himself too.


you're making your case worse with every single take you write, just saying.....
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Post#15 » by RUN-TJM » Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:26 am

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ILOVEIT wrote:So you DO think he's still a top ten player and he DOES have the stamina at 36 to lead a solid/good team to a chip without another super star? Can't have it both ways.


I think he's a top 10 player, but clearly on the edge there with this season's down performance. The question is what he'd look like with a real #2 option. I think he'd look a lot better, and we'd worry less about his off nights, which all players have I don't think he needs a super star teammate like Luka, but if he had another top 20 guy alongside him like AD or Kyrie you'd see a different level of Curry.

No other star I watch gets doubled out to half court like Curry frequently does (obviously not every game, and the Lakers didn't play him like that, but he did have a bad shooting night). So the defense definitely reacts to Curry like he's a top 10 guy, though obviously part of the doubling strategy is that the rest of the Warriors stink.

I think it's fair for anyone to question whether an almost 37 year old can be the #1 on a title team (he will be 37 before the playoffs). That premise itself is questionable, but I think Curry could do it, only with a significantly better team, one we'll almost surely never see. It would need to be a very strong supporting cast. I just think you personally are the wrong guy to call him out, given your very poor and incorrect history regarding Steph.


If Curry can't will a Warriors team past Toronto, then give me a fricken break. In losses like that he DID have help in Adrew Wiggins. IF Curry is still a dominant top 10 player he should be lighting the net on fire in the big games. He's not. Not his fault, he's just much older. I'm just calling it like it is. Don't get your panties in a bunch.


Using random regular season games as a barometer is how you came to your prior terrible, dishonorable views on Curry before he won more championships. I guess you are in the group of guys who wanted to trade him a long time ago and just kept doubling down on their bad takes. What a sad way to have experienced the dynasty.

 
For the record, my concern on Curry before 2022 was that he failed to show up peak Curry in the biggest moments - Iggy got the MVP for a reason in 2015....and LeBron and Kyrie came back from 1-3 in 2016 for a reason. Durant took and made the dagger shots to bury LeBron in both title years. In 2022, Curry proved he could do it. And when I guy cries and sits on the floor and get's the finals MVP for the first time....I'm betting he doubted himself too.


Written like you aren't a Warrior fan :lol: Stats show Steph was by far the more important player in the Durant years, and it's not even close. You realize Ty Lue already admitted they prioritized Steph as the #1, right? Just stop posting about Curry, you always embarass yourself.

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Post#16 » by cpower » Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:44 am

you do realize Curry have to play with worst spacing team in the league right? Schroder TJD Looney Green JK GP2 Anderson..the list goes on and on.. even the so called shooters like Podz and Waters are bricking at historical rate.

Then you look at the guy's advance stat he is still top 10 in EPM and BPM...like what do you expect the man to do? before claiming he is washed give him a competitive team!
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Post#17 » by SpreeS » Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:55 am

2021 and 2025 Warriors are similar teams on offensive end. Curry scoring stats shows how much he declines in last 4 years. Its huge drop. Other All-Star near him could become 1st option and Curry second to him.
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Post#18 » by Jester_ » Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:51 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:You've been doubting Curry for years, including before the 2022 chip. So nothing has changed on your end, you're always here to kick him when he has a down game.

He's older obviously and not in his prime, but still #10 in EPM. Lebron is #59, but I don't even want to attack him because the dude is 40 and that's still great for someone his age.


Donald....thought I blocked you lol

So you DO think he's still a top ten player and he DOES have the stamina at 36 to lead a solid/good team to a chip without another super star? Can't have it both ways.

If Curry can't will a Warriors team past Toronto, then give me a fricken break. In losses like that he DID have help in Adrew Wiggins. IF Curry is still a dominant top 10 player he should be lighting the net on fire in the big games. He's not. Not his fault, he's just much older. I'm just calling it like it is. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
 
For the record, my concern on Curry before 2022 was that he failed to show up peak Curry in the biggest moments - Iggy got the MVP for a reason in 2015....and LeBron and Kyrie came back from 1-3 in 2016 for a reason. Durant took and made the dagger shots to bury LeBron in both title years. In 2022, Curry proved he could do it. And when I guy cries and sits on the floor and get's the finals MVP for the first time....I'm betting he doubted himself too.


no he didn't doubt himself he was just happy to finally prove wrong all the idiots who wanted to trade him for a 34 year old pau gasol
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Post#19 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:34 pm

Check it at the 19 minute mark. I'm not the only one seeing Curry drop from the alpha #1 stamina and abilities to lead a team to a chip.

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Post#20 » by Jax_23 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:12 am

Hmmm, maybe it's the Klay Thompson leaving effect? Lol. Where the Klay haters at? :lol:

But yeah -- 5 guys on the court. Having the wrong pieces can make any great player look not at their best. The question isn't how good Curry is when he's surrounded by bums, the question is how good is Curry when he's surrounded by a legit 5. Imo still a #1 option on a championship team. Championship teams have multiple good players though...

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