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I was struck by a number of things.
Good coaching.
A team on the edge that plays hard every game and plays to win.
There was an intensity to it all.
Even the announcers were intense -- only talking about the game and being "in the moment."
I couldn't help but contrast that with what I see from the Warriors these days.
A coach making horrible personnel decisions: ridiculous small ball lineups, playing Buddy Hield (and starting him many games) when he's been terrible for many, many games. Essentially, a coach not chasing wins.
Trade coaches and it's very likely the Rockets would have Golden State's record and the Warriors would have the Rockets' record.
Also, I can easily imagine Amen Thompson being coached by Kerr and struggling and Kuminga being coached by Udoka and flourishing.
This current version of the Warriors has grown so stale and out of touch with today's NBA. They're absolutely resting on their championships and winning doesn't appear a priority whatsoever. We all know there will be no trades at the deadline. We've already been told it's best to "kick it down the road," just as they always do.
I'm just not sure what the point is other than all of them cashing their large paychecks?
Some teams are out there trying to win; others are just going through the motions. As a fan, it's so miserable to watch. I love Steph Curry and appreciate what he's brought. I'd love to see him stay if the Warriors would actually try and win with him. I hate the idea of him being here simply as a reminder of the past as the team is just good enough to accomplish nothing, with no direction. Either go all in with Steph or don't. Choose a direction and stop putting fans through this night after night.
I think we've all had enough of Kerr telling us to just "flush it," after another humiliating defeat.
Please. Something new.
Good coaching.
A team on the edge that plays hard every game and plays to win.
There was an intensity to it all.
Even the announcers were intense -- only talking about the game and being "in the moment."
I couldn't help but contrast that with what I see from the Warriors these days.
A coach making horrible personnel decisions: ridiculous small ball lineups, playing Buddy Hield (and starting him many games) when he's been terrible for many, many games. Essentially, a coach not chasing wins.
Trade coaches and it's very likely the Rockets would have Golden State's record and the Warriors would have the Rockets' record.
Also, I can easily imagine Amen Thompson being coached by Kerr and struggling and Kuminga being coached by Udoka and flourishing.
This current version of the Warriors has grown so stale and out of touch with today's NBA. They're absolutely resting on their championships and winning doesn't appear a priority whatsoever. We all know there will be no trades at the deadline. We've already been told it's best to "kick it down the road," just as they always do.
I'm just not sure what the point is other than all of them cashing their large paychecks?
Some teams are out there trying to win; others are just going through the motions. As a fan, it's so miserable to watch. I love Steph Curry and appreciate what he's brought. I'd love to see him stay if the Warriors would actually try and win with him. I hate the idea of him being here simply as a reminder of the past as the team is just good enough to accomplish nothing, with no direction. Either go all in with Steph or don't. Choose a direction and stop putting fans through this night after night.
I think we've all had enough of Kerr telling us to just "flush it," after another humiliating defeat.
Please. Something new.
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It's not Kerr. GSW played hard under Kerr. It's age. This is not a young team. Houston is. If you want to be Houston, you need to rebuild.
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Your right, Warriors are just OLD and SMALL. So obvious this team needs a rebuild... but wake me in three years when they finally start.
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Still, I swear the next time Kerr is held ACCOUNTABLE will be the first. We could lose another 10 in a row and he would be fine. Held to a totally different standard than nearly every other coach in the league.
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Romulus wrote:There was an intensity to it all.
Even the announcers were intense -- only talking about the game and being "in the moment."
I couldn't help but contrast that with what I see from the Warriors these days.
Not sure whether you're talking about the Celtics' or Rockets' announcers. But, both markets share one thing in common. They're both heavily populated with losers who have so little going on in their lives that they feel the need to vicariously live through their local sports teams. As a result, their local sports radio and television takes the form of screaming like their very lives depend on the win. That's never been the case in the Bay Area. So, if you're missing "intensity" in how the game is treated, you'd best be advised to relocate.
GSWFan1994 wrote:I saw signs of David Robinson, Anthony Davis, Chris Bosh & Kevin Garnett while watching Wiseman.
Jester_ wrote:Wiseman is the real deal. He's going to be our franchise player.
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DevinVassell wrote:Still, I swear the next time Kerr is held ACCOUNTABLE will be the first. We could lose another 10 in a row and he would be fine. Held to a totally different standard than nearly every other coach in the league.
He gets credit when we succeed with 4 hall of famers, but none of the blame when we're a disgrace with 2 hall of famers
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Kerr has done more with the least talent available of any coach in the history of the game.
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Don't we already have a "Warriors have a Kerr problem" thread?
As some have already stated, this team is old. They are also slow and unathletic. No coach could make this turd a diamond.
As some have already stated, this team is old. They are also slow and unathletic. No coach could make this turd a diamond.
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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To everyone saying the team is old slow and unathletic, yes that's true of our veterans but not of the crew of developing youngsters that are all looking like very good value for where they were picked. While none of the vets are blessed with great talent, some of our youngsters certainly are and that gives reason for optimism. It's almost like Kerr won 4 championships designing a system that allows marginal athletes to play at the highest level. Have I seen something similar in a certain poster's sig? Not sure...
This team overwhelmingly has two types: veterans that are over the hill and youngsters that aren't yet ready to take over. And then there's Wiggins, our one player that is solidly in his prime. Given that makeup it shouldn't be surprising the team is where it is now. But I think there is cause for hope, because all the youngsters have shown the ability to make substantive contributions right now. What's required is that the youngsters and the vets find chemistry together, which is easier said than done, but not guaranteed. It's up to Kerr and the coaching staff to do everything possible to make that happen, and if they can, I foresee a late season run into the playoffs.
This team overwhelmingly has two types: veterans that are over the hill and youngsters that aren't yet ready to take over. And then there's Wiggins, our one player that is solidly in his prime. Given that makeup it shouldn't be surprising the team is where it is now. But I think there is cause for hope, because all the youngsters have shown the ability to make substantive contributions right now. What's required is that the youngsters and the vets find chemistry together, which is easier said than done, but not guaranteed. It's up to Kerr and the coaching staff to do everything possible to make that happen, and if they can, I foresee a late season run into the playoffs.
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whatisacenter wrote:Don't we already have a "Warriors have a Kerr problem" thread?
As some have already stated, this team is old. They are also slow and unathletic. No coach could make this turd a diamond.
The problem is that there is a small number of self entitled dickweeds who think the team needs to win a chip every single season in order for their otherwise $hitty lives to feel somewhat fulfilling. Four chips. Six trips to the Finals. A slew of individual awards. Countless wonderful winning memories. A front row seat to a team that literally revolutionized the way the game is played. Nope. Not enough. Some would rather $hit their diaper on a daily basis. The biggest problem the team has isn't any of their players or anyone in management or ownership - It's the vocal minority in daily need of being pacified.

GSWFan1994 wrote:I saw signs of David Robinson, Anthony Davis, Chris Bosh & Kevin Garnett while watching Wiseman.
Jester_ wrote:Wiseman is the real deal. He's going to be our franchise player.
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Old_Blue wrote:whatisacenter wrote:Don't we already have a "Warriors have a Kerr problem" thread?
As some have already stated, this team is old. They are also slow and unathletic. No coach could make this turd a diamond.
The problem is that there is a small number of self entitled dickweeds who think the team needs to win a chip every single season in order for their otherwise $hitty lives to feel somewhat fulfilling. Four chips. Six trips to the Finals. A slew of individual awards. Countless wonderful winning memories. A front row seat to a team that literally revolutionized the way the game is played. Nope. Not enough. Some would rather $hit their diaper on a daily basis. The biggest problem the team has isn't any of their players or anyone in management or ownership - It's the vocal minority in daily need of being pacified.
so **** off lol why are you coming to a message board about a sports team if you don't care what they do? loser behavior
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Kerr has done more with the least talent available of any coach in the history of the game.
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Jester_ wrote:Old_Blue wrote:whatisacenter wrote:Don't we already have a "Warriors have a Kerr problem" thread?
As some have already stated, this team is old. They are also slow and unathletic. No coach could make this turd a diamond.
The problem is that there is a small number of self entitled dickweeds who think the team needs to win a chip every single season in order for their otherwise $hitty lives to feel somewhat fulfilling. Four chips. Six trips to the Finals. A slew of individual awards. Countless wonderful winning memories. A front row seat to a team that literally revolutionized the way the game is played. Nope. Not enough. Some would rather $hit their diaper on a daily basis. The biggest problem the team has isn't any of their players or anyone in management or ownership - It's the vocal minority in daily need of being pacified.
so **** off lol why are you coming to a message board about a sports team if you don't care what they do? loser behavior

We all care, it's just that some of us aren't fueled by weird grievances.
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whatisacenter wrote:Jester_ wrote:Old_Blue wrote:
The problem is that there is a small number of self entitled dickweeds who think the team needs to win a chip every single season in order for their otherwise $hitty lives to feel somewhat fulfilling. Four chips. Six trips to the Finals. A slew of individual awards. Countless wonderful winning memories. A front row seat to a team that literally revolutionized the way the game is played. Nope. Not enough. Some would rather $hit their diaper on a daily basis. The biggest problem the team has isn't any of their players or anyone in management or ownership - It's the vocal minority in daily need of being pacified.
so **** off lol why are you coming to a message board about a sports team if you don't care what they do? loser behaviorlooks like someone struck a nerve.
We all care, it's just that some of us aren't fueled by weird grievances.
lol the hell are you even talking about, do you bother reading posts anymore or are you just in constant kneejerk mode attacking anyone who isn't actively sucking off the org?
I'm saying if it triggers you so much that people are criticizing a team why would you go to a sports message board?? touch grass. there's like 4 of you that show up every day and start crying anytime anyone complains about any part of our FO it's very strange
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Kerr has done more with the least talent available of any coach in the history of the game.
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Romulus wrote:Trade coaches and it's very likely the Rockets would have Golden State's record and the Warriors would have the Rockets' record.
No. It turns out it's mostly players who matter. Mark Jackson was a bad coach, and GS still won 51 games in the west.
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For all his deficiencies, Kerr still out-coached Udoka in 22.
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Most of the posters here are better then the warriors
FO. The Warriors management are just resting
on stephs coatails.
FO. The Warriors management are just resting
on stephs coatails.
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In 2013 and in 2014 I feel like the injuries in the playoffs prevented us from potentially knocking down the doors sooner.
In 2013 Lee who was our 2nd leading scorer got injured. We went to the 2nd round and lost to the Spurs in 6 after losing game 1 by two points. Lee was playing at All-Star level prior to that injury, him healthy is a significant boost.
In 2014 we lost in 7 games to the Clippers. Bogut did not even play in that series and it absolutely would have made a difference with the Clippers attack being based on Jordan and Griffin lobs.
In 2015 I felt like if they could just come in healthy for the playoffs they could get over the hump.
In 2013 Lee who was our 2nd leading scorer got injured. We went to the 2nd round and lost to the Spurs in 6 after losing game 1 by two points. Lee was playing at All-Star level prior to that injury, him healthy is a significant boost.
In 2014 we lost in 7 games to the Clippers. Bogut did not even play in that series and it absolutely would have made a difference with the Clippers attack being based on Jordan and Griffin lobs.
In 2015 I felt like if they could just come in healthy for the playoffs they could get over the hump.
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It's a combination of things with the coaching, the Dub's being too small, and lack of athletes 6'6" and above. Steph was the smallest Dub when the Dubs were at their peak. Now, you got guy's Steph's size or smaller playing the PF position. The Pheonix game really made me realize how unathletic and small the Dub's are.
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jaymo123 wrote:It's a combination of things with the coaching, the Dub's being too small, and lack of athletes 6'6" and above. Steph was the smallest Dub when the Dubs were at their peak. Now, you got guy's Steph's size or smaller playing the PF position. The Pheonix game really made me realize how unathletic and small the Dub's are.
Are? The Dubs have always been unathletic and small. The 3 seasons with KD was the only time in the Kerr era we had a single + athlete starting. Iguodala was 30 and just past his athletic prime when he got here.
Jester thinks his sig is a burn, but my words are 100% accurate. Kerr is a great coach that gets the most out of his players, having designed an offense that won 4 chips despite a clear lack of athletic talent in a league that has always prioritized athletic talent.
Kuminga is far and away the most talented player Kerr has ever had to coach and considering where he's at and how much he's improved(and how much we're missing him right now), I'd say Kerr has done a good job helping him to develop.
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Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
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Sandy333 wrote:Most of the posters here are better then the warriors
FO. The Warriors management are just resting
on stephs coatails.
This is so incredibly delusional. Dunleavy is trying to put together one of his half dozen team trade monstrosities that have become his specialty and the fans think they could do better.
What Dunleavy is trying to accomplish right now is so complex and goes so far over our heads, we just can't see or imagine it. If he pulls it off, we'll all be shocked and humbled. Actually, knowing the crew that frequents this board, shocked but never humbled.
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Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
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