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Comparing to the league avg, only players are scoring better than league avg are Curry, Santos, GP2, Post, Moody and three of them don't get regular play time (I used Post as listing position PF since he is used as stretch 4)

The lack of offensive player on this team is insane.


League avg for each position:
PG 55.4%TS
SG 57.1%TS
SF 56.7%TS
PF 57.6%TS
C 61.5%TS

cpower wrote:Comparing to the league avg, only players are scoring better than league avg are Curry, Santos, GP2, Post, Moody and three of them don't get regular play time

The lack of offensive player on this team is insane.


League avg for each position:
PG 55.4%TS
SG 57.1%TS
SF 56.7%TS
PF 57.6%TS
C 61.5%TS

Funny enough those 5 actually fit positionally pretty well

Did a quick search and no, Steph/GP2/Moody/Santos/Post have never stepped on the court together. Maybe it's time!

Yeah, it's bad, but we have a lot of guys on this team who are for whatever reasons underperforming their career averages, all at the same time. Guys like Schröder, Hield, Kuminga have all been better in the past WRT to TS%. So has Steph for that matter. Maybe they revert to the mean and everything gets lifted enough to make a difference. On the other hand, Wiggins is shooting the best he has in his career, but I'm not sure I trust him to not revert as well.

HiRez wrote:Yeah, it's bad, but we have a lot of guys on this team who are for whatever reasons underperforming their career averages, all at the same time. Guys like Schröder, Hield, Kuminga have all been better in the past WRT to TS%. So has Steph for that matter. Maybe they revert to the mean and everything gets lifted enough to make a difference. On the other hand, Wiggins is shooting the best he has in his career, but I'm not sure I trust him to not revert as well.

this is where Wiggins value is capped, he is no playmaker nor defensive anchor nor a good scorer. He is a nice 2 way guy that fits in but not a difference maker.

cpower wrote:

HiRez wrote:Yeah, it's bad, but we have a lot of guys on this team who are for whatever reasons underperforming their career averages, all at the same time. Guys like Schröder, Hield, Kuminga have all been better in the past WRT to TS%. So has Steph for that matter. Maybe they revert to the mean and everything gets lifted enough to make a difference. On the other hand, Wiggins is shooting the best he has in his career, but I'm not sure I trust him to not revert as well.

this is where Wiggins value is capped, he is no playmaker nor defensive anchor nor a good scorer. He is a nice 2 way guy that fits in but not a difference maker.

There's a reason why the best wing defenders in the league aren't offensive weapons, it's too much of a drain physically.

Og and bridges for example have a ts of 58 (wiggs 57) while splitting poa and guarding the best player. While providing similar offense with half the attention.





Wiggins might be the only player in the league right now with this defensive and offensive responsibility.

We don't have another defensive wing on the roster and hes also just the best of our options. Ideally, you'd want him as a 3rd and not a second.

Our offense only guys like heild and jk have struggled this year, that's the bigger problem. Luckily, podz might have turned the corner.

If you trade wiggins, it's should be for draft capital because of a rebuild. Not for Butler or lavine.

Wiggs had very good contact for his production. 30mln for prime years player who can be 2nd/3rd scoring option and one of the best wings defender. Also can play from SG to PF. This could be our best contract. Maybe he isn’t so valuable on mid level team, but he is perfect fit on contenders: DEN over Porter/MEM over every SF/OKC over Dort/HOU over Brooks/DAL over Klay/MIL over Middleton/CLE over every SF. Only NY and BOS doesn’t need so much of Wiggs production.

We just need a 3rd scorer who can get at least 15 ppg without hijacking the offense. It doesn't have to be a 2nd option.

Right now it's steph and wiggins, then nothing else. The numbers show it. Those 2 can absolutely win a game when both are on, but we absolutely lose when one is off.

Lavine or Butler would get the clear no.2, but we'd have the same problems without a 3rd scorer (with wiggins getting traded).

The cheapest and maybe the more impactful option is:

Jk has to be that guy. But "I want to be kobe kuminga" does more harm than good. He's more impactful as the 3rd option with steph/wiggins while being the 1st option with the bench. He could be an elite finisher with gravity around him even without the 3 pt shot. But man, those fts.

Heild is too bipolar.

Schroeder can get his own shot, but looks better suited as a 4th option orchestrator for us.

In these non jk/dray games, he have a better offense. We take more 3s. Make more 3s. Get to the ft line more. Make more fts. And turn the ball over less. But we miss a guy like jk generating offense in those non steph/wiggins minutes. We do not miss drays offense at all.

Great posts by Crazy above.

And I'd add that all these points sort of go perfectly with the few key things this board has been asking (begging?) for months:

- If Kuminga is going to be the other scorer, we obviously need to go with the Wiggins/Kuminga/Dray 3/4/5 as a main lineup
- Steph and Dennis should be separated more often than not
- Buddy/Podz both play great next to Steph (but buddy is struggling so that makes the next part easy)
- Steph plays better with Loon than Trayce
- Moody needs minutes

Start Steph, Podz (or GP2 if they have a dominate PG), Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray

Bring in Loon for either big.
Bring in Moody for either perimeter player.
Bring in Dennis for Steph.

Then you have GP2, Buddy, Trayce, Kyle, Post, Lindy for matchups, injuries, foul trouble, etc.

This also shows why I'm so pro trading Trayce either for NAW or Julian Phillips because I don't see him as needed right now, even though im a fan of his.