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I miss the 82games.com plus minus data. The data from statmuse is a lot less useful, but still interesting:

I did not anticipate the Santos breakout in any way shape or form. His earlier incarnations just seemed a bit too slow and too small. But he's really made it work. If he can get his 3pt% up to 36 or so, he can be a rotation player for most teams.

Also amazing how much Jimmy put up in the + column in such a short time.

If Melton was fit and Warriors picked up JImmy, they would have been favorites to win it all. Impressive numbers by Himmy as well.

Impuniti wrote:If Melton was fit and Warriors picked up JImmy, they would have been favorites to win it all. Impressive numbers by Himmy as well.

Not sure they would have picked up Jimmy if Melton didn't get injured and the team tanked though. However, I think the Melton contribution to the 12-3 start, and the team's subsequent downfall after he left, is a bit overblown and misleading. He definitely helped, he was a good fit, but this was never going to be anything close to a .800 team for a whole season, Melton or no Melton. There were a lot of problems that just had not manifested themselves yet, as they do during a full 82-game season.

Impuniti wrote:If Melton was fit and Warriors picked up JImmy, they would have been favorites to win it all. Impressive numbers by Himmy as well.

We needed melton's salary, the one that was flipped for DS. Having Jimmy & Melton here would require moving 2 out of the Loon/GP2/JK trio on top of all the bodies we moved in the jimmy trade.

you can use this one:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2025/on-off/

cpower wrote:you can use this one:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2025/on-off/

Gui's numbers are crazy.

Impuniti wrote:

cpower wrote:you can use this one:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2025/on-off/

Gui's numbers are crazy.

GUI needs to play more.

Kind of hilarious that people say Kerr doesn’t develop players and yet gui says watch this.

Onus wrote:

Impuniti wrote:

cpower wrote:you can use this one:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2025/on-off/

Gui's numbers are crazy.

GUI needs to play more.

Kind of hilarious that people say Kerr doesn’t develop players and yet gui says watch this.

I couldn't disagree more. He's the new lamb, without the terrible allegations. He's a try hard player that will be unplayable in the playoffs when the effort is raised and his 'advantage' disappears. Kerr loves guys that run around but Gui fouls a ton, gets beat off the dribble ALL THE TIME, and can't finish (like almost everyone else on this team). I personally love Gui and wish him nothing but the best. He is big, physical, passes well, can kinda shoot, and hustles for every dollar. What's not to like? Other than the lack of basketball talent, nothing. If all of gui's minutes this year went to moses, podz, post, and yes, even JK, I don't think our record changes but the play of one or more of the guys I mentioned may be much improved.

looking at on-off
JK is just trash on offense, 111 Ortg is rough and we are a team desperately need some offense.
Warriors offense is better without Hield, so what is Kerr actually playing him for?
GP2 and Santos are played because they are the only role players that dont suck on offense.
If we can replace Moody/Podz with avg starter we will be a true contender.

The +/- data is comparable to the eye test.

I watched Gui play in the Summer League and I really liked his style of play/IQ/hustle. Some people were saying he was a "Brazilian Luka Doncic", obviously an exaggeration but he has an uncommon steadiness about him. I was hoping he would get more playing time in general but didn't expect his role to be expanded like it did.

The fact that Gui stands out in much of a way really shows how soft and vulnerable Non-Jimmy Warriors were. Super soft....zero dawgs. That Warriors team had no shot at playoffs. Watching Jimmy's physicality controlling half-court sets is sooooo different than the Warriors without him trying to pass their way to an open shot. Jimmy is a hammer...Curry is a rapier.

floppymoose wrote:I miss the 82games.com plus minus data. The data from statmuse is a lot less useful, but still interesting:

The 82games info is now there. Just a fyi

cpower wrote:looking at on-off
JK is just trash on offense, 111 Ortg is rough and we are a team desperately need some offense.
Warriors offense is better without Hield, so what is Kerr actually playing him for?
GP2 and Santos are played because they are the only role players that dont suck on offense.
If we can replace Moody/Podz with avg starter we will be a true contender.

By definition an "average starter" is the 3rd best starter on a team. So you think we're going to replace Moody with someone like:

Chet
Amen
Austin Reaves
Aaron Gordon
Zubac
Jaden McDaniels
Draymond Green
Desmond Bane
Keegan Murray
.
.
.

Need I go on? I mean on the one hand you're absolutely right. Give me one of those guys and take Moody or Podz. OTOH, what are you smokin bro?

EvanZ wrote:

cpower wrote:looking at on-off
JK is just trash on offense, 111 Ortg is rough and we are a team desperately need some offense.
Warriors offense is better without Hield, so what is Kerr actually playing him for?
GP2 and Santos are played because they are the only role players that dont suck on offense.
If we can replace Moody/Podz with avg starter we will be a true contender.

By definition an "average starter" is the 3rd best starter on a team. So you think we're going to replace Moody with someone like:

Chet
Amen
Austin Reaves
Aaron Gordon
Zubac
Jaden McDaniels
Draymond Green
Desmond Bane
Keegan Murray
.
.
.

Need I go on? I mean on the one hand you're absolutely right. Give me one of those guys and take Moody or Podz. OTOH, what are you smokin bro?

Max Strus， Payton Pritchard， Obi Toppin，Aaron Wiggins， Rui Hachimura，P.J. Washington
these are avg starters not the top starters

I had given up on Podz at the beginning of the season, but boy o boy did he come good.

Remember how everyone wanted Schroeder? He was playing well for the Nets before the Warriors got him but he couldn’t make shots when he was here.

Now I don’t know if Schroeder was the only possible trade target, to use Melton’s salary slot.

But the Lakers got a much more impactful player from the Nets in DFS. Maybe the SRP they sent to Brooklyn was higher than the SRP that GSW not out for Schroeder.

But DFS is playing almost 30 minutes for the Lakers, taking 5 3s a game and hitting just under 40%.

Warriors could use his size and shooting now.

We will have to see what happens in the playoffs. Buddy could be a problem, though he played well in that Houston game.

Klay has had a worse season for Mavs than his last season with the Warriors, though it would be interesting to see the splits before Luka was not only traded but injured. If Mavs beat Memphis and face OKC it would be very tough for Klay given OKC’s defense. He’d have to make more contested shots.

Klay struggled in the Lakers series a couple of years ago and also in the playoffs in game at Sacto last year.

While Buddy was key in carrying the team to a 12-3 start, he’s had a bad season, below his career averages. More ominously, very limited playoffs experience. Despite being a 11-year vet, his confidence seems fragile and he seems superstitious, wanting to touch or cradle the ball between FTs attempted by other players.

Man if he could get half as hot as he was the first 20 games …

cpower wrote:

EvanZ wrote:

cpower wrote:looking at on-off
JK is just trash on offense, 111 Ortg is rough and we are a team desperately need some offense.
Warriors offense is better without Hield, so what is Kerr actually playing him for?
GP2 and Santos are played because they are the only role players that dont suck on offense.
If we can replace Moody/Podz with avg starter we will be a true contender.

By definition an "average starter" is the 3rd best starter on a team. So you think we're going to replace Moody with someone like:

Chet
Amen
Austin Reaves
Aaron Gordon
Zubac
Jaden McDaniels
Draymond Green
Desmond Bane
Keegan Murray
.
.
.

Need I go on? I mean on the one hand you're absolutely right. Give me one of those guys and take Moody or Podz. OTOH, what are you smokin bro?

Max Strus， Payton Pritchard， Obi Toppin，Aaron Wiggins， Rui Hachimura，P.J. Washington
these are avg starters not the top starters

Bro, Pritchard is literally coming off the bench. So is Wiggins. You seem clueless. You just named a bunch of guys that are lucky to be the fifth man in a starting unit. I’ll keep Moody.

Moody, Gui, and Podz **** on all those guys

From 82games.com data. Note that these +- numbers are relative to the team (on/off), not the league. The Warriors are a good team with about a +3.3 average per 100. So for instance, GP2's -1.0 means GS is still winning his minutes (3.3 - 1.0 = +2.3).