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Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:22 pm
by Romulus
All Joe Lacob had to do was draft them. It was that easy. Instead, Lacob passed on both -- actually passing on Murphy twice.
Joe Lacob and his children should not be making basketball decisions. Steph Curry is the only thing keeping this team out of the basement.
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/rounds/_/season/2021
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:20 pm
by whatisacenter
Trey at $25M, yes please.
Franz at $45M, no thanks.
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:22 pm
by Old_Blue
Romulus wrote:All Joe Lacob had to do was draft them. It was that easy. Instead, Lacob passed on both -- actually passing on Murphy twice.
Joe Lacob and his children should not be making basketball decisions. Steph Curry is the only thing keeping this team out of the basement.
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/rounds/_/season/2021
I would be careful with that kind of accusation if I were you. Joe Lacob is to the Warriors what Donald Trump is to the U.S. He knows best. He always knows best. And, his sons know best too. Anyone who says otherwise is a talentless Jimmy Kimmel. Listen to Melania when she tells you "Be best."

Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:06 am
by Coxy
We should have drafted Franz and Sengun, in hindsight.
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 5:32 pm
by EvanZ
If only GM’s had hindsight! Man that would be great. If I had hindsight I wouldn’t have sold the hundreds of shares of NVDA stock I owned in 2009. HINDSIGHT!
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 5:59 pm
by BayAreaDub
I’ll I had to do was buy that bitcoin in 2012 smh
I’d be rich I tell ya. RICH!!!!
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:30 pm
by HiRez
They probably could have them now even without drafting them, if they were willing to give up say 2 FRPs each plus a few players like JK, Moody, Podz, etc. Which is what they should be doing. If Steph retires and you don't want to build around those players, turn them back into picks, they will still be valued around the league.
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:37 pm
by Old_Blue
Wouldn't it have been fun if the Dubs had been allowed to bid on Luka - Say, Draymond, salary filler and two first round picks - So that we didn't have to have dumb conversations about what could have been in a draft four years ago? What am I saying? That couldn't possibly have been allowed. It would have violated Adam Silver's plan to keep the Lakers relevant.

Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:50 am
by michaelm
EvanZ wrote:If only GM’s had hindsight! Man that would be great. If I had hindsight I wouldn’t have sold the hundreds of shares of NVDA stock I owned in 2009. HINDSIGHT!
It is a truism that the retrospectoscope is by far the most accurate diagnostic modality known to medical science.
I am sure this also applies outside of medicine.
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:59 pm
by KevinMcreynolds
Half the league passed on Murphy
JK wasn’t an egregious pick talent-wise, more of a mistake in fit since we were a veteran team and he was a raw upside play
Moody was a good pick, it just didn’t work out
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:48 pm
by Old_Blue
The problem was that, after being persuaded by his dumb sons to trade for Smailagić in the 2019 draft, Lacob was afraid to grab another big white European power forward in the 2021 draft. So, in the end, the entire family ended up looking like idiots.
Re: Franz Wagner & Trey Murphy should already be Warriors
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 8:50 am
by ChuckDurn
Coxy wrote:We should have drafted Franz and Sengun, in hindsight.
Yeah, I have to say that when OKC took Giddey with #6 and both Franz and Kuminga were sitting there, I was hoping they’d take Franz.
And when Sengun kept falling (I was stunned that the Spurs didn’t take him with their pick), I was praying we’d take him.
Nobody honestly expected Murphy to go in the lottery, so while we can say we missed out on him, it would have been a surprise if we would have “reached” for him at the time. Neither Wagner nor Sengun (him in particular) would have been a reach.
That draft kills me, because as the Warriors were on the clock each time, I wanted them to take Wagner and Sengun, only to see them pass both up.