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Chicago
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:12 am
by turk3d
Here's a trade which would work on trade checker involving TY Thomas who they're saying Chicago wants to move (would make an ideal Center for us). What do you guys think of it? Not sure how Chicago would react to this. BTW, it was very hard to do a deal involving them which is part of the reason I chose those players.
Warriors trade: Pietrus, O'Bryant, Perovic
Why: We want to move Pietrus, O'Bryant. Perovic thrown in for filler in order to make deal work financially
Chicago Trades: Thomas, Duhon, Gray
Chicago wants to move Thomas, Duhon tough but expiring and likely will not sign with Chicago next season. Gray not needed with two Centers coming from Golden State. They also save about 1.5 M.
Maybe we have to throw in a draft pick.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:35 am
by WarFan
Take out Gray and Perovic because Chicago won't do it. As for MP and POB for Ty and Duhon, I think we'd have to throw in a first. I'm not sure how crazy/stupid Tyrus is, but if the trade was made I'd like it.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:41 am
by frsh90
I hate the two, but bringing Tyrus or Noah here wouldn't be too bad..
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:50 am
by bballguy50
They want Pau, they always have. I think we'd have to offer way more than that for Tyrus.
Who knows, maybe we could get Noah on the cheap because of the whole fiasco over there.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:03 am
by Tommy Udo 6
This sounds like another ESPN story where a writer announces his opinion as "fact". Not even the local beat writers who love making up trades (like Stupid Sam Smith) are mentioning a Tyrus trade
The only Bull being shopped is Ben Wallace - and the Bulls may have to add some young talent to a trade to dump Ben. In that case, Thomas or anyone else would be available.
but Thomas or anyone else isnt being shopped alone. They would be available only if a team takes Wallace.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:30 am
by old rem
WarFan wrote:Take out Gray and Perovic because Chicago won't do it. As for MP and POB for Ty and Duhon, I think we'd have to throw in a first. I'm not sure how crazy/stupid Tyrus is, but if the trade was made I'd like it.
Stretch MP out another 3 inches and give him Jax's knack for getting into trouble and you got an idea. Tyrus has LESS skills and polish than Wright--but has had NBA minutes. Who knows how Nellie would see it. Obviously....with Gray getting about as many minutes as POB-Wright combined..Chi won't flip him for Kosta. Since we lopped off most of the trade value of POB and MP--a rd 1 would be needed to just MAYBE get the Bulls to agree. The short term result would be Nellie sees Tyrus as too raw to have a major role and he winds up impeding Wright's progress. However....post Nellie it all MIGHT work out very well. Tyrus has some nifty tools and eventually can make some impact. He won't ever be consistant or much of a shooter but as he fills out-maybe a young Kenyon Martin.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:52 pm
by turk3d
bulls6 wrote:This sounds like another ESPN story where a writer announces his opinion as "fact". Not even the local beat writers who love making up trades (like Stupid Sam Smith) are mentioning a Tyrus trade
The only Bull being shopped is Ben Wallace - and the Bulls may have to add some young talent to a trade to dump Ben. In that case, Thomas or anyone else would be available.
but Thomas or anyone else isnt being shopped alone. They would be available only if a team takes Wallace.
Thry're going to have a very difficult time trading Big Ben. I don't think they'll want to trade Noah (in spite of this most recent incident). I think Thomas (who they've made rumblings about in the past) is probably going to be the odd man out. Of course this doesn't mean that they would do the deal I'm suggesting.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:41 pm
by SherronShabazz
as a bulls fan i say no.
i think gordon and thomas are being shopped.
ben wallace is probably being shopped but is untradeable due to the money he is owed on his deal.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:23 pm
by Mylie10
No way the Warriors are getting Tyrus. Book it!
We wouldn't be able to get him without giving up core players.
No offense to MP, but he's not getting it done.
The trade exception is the most attractive piece we have to trade, but Chicago isn't the type of team that it would appeal to.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:42 pm
by gusyouout
i think chicago values thomas more than that. we're not giving anything too significant away.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:58 pm
by turk3d
I actually think it may be better than what others are offering, i.e., guys like Graham, Humphries and Dixon from Toronto. I'd take Pete and O'Bryant over that group. As I said in the original post, at least we might give up a pick as well but I agree, not likely to happen. Just a thought.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:19 pm
by GSWhoopfan
why change anything...we got chemistry on the court. Team chemistry gives us a sixth man on the court.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:43 pm
by WarFan
old rem wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Stretch MP out another 3 inches and give him Jax's knack for getting into trouble and you got an idea. Tyrus has LESS skills and polish than Wright--but has had NBA minutes.
Who knows how Nellie would see it.
That's why I said I'd be down with the trade if they made it. I'd assume that Nellie liked it and Mullin didn't think Thomas' problems were a big deal.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:43 am
by lupa
As a Bulls fan I would do Tyrus/Duhon for Wright/Pietrus
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:49 am
by mistatwo mayn
CrzyAfrn.... do the game thread man.
Floppy.... wear your jersey to sleep or something, sacrifice a cow.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:11 am
by crzy
sure thang
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:27 pm
by Left*My*Heart
The Bulls would love to move Big Ben, but it would probably cost them Thomas.
I could see the Warriors trying to get involved in the Gasol trade with the Bulls.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:00 pm
by Mylie10
After listening to Charles Barkley last night, it sounds like Noah is the one who might be on his way out.
I doubt anyone is taking Big Bens salary right now. Could be wrong though.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:32 pm
by sanddude909
lupa wrote:As a Bulls fan I would do Tyrus/Duhon for Wright/Pietrus
As a Warriors' fan, I'm not ready to give up on Wright just yet.