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What happened to those two?

How did Nice Story and Trainwreck slither back into the main regular rotation?

Saddling Brandan with the Webber experiment is doing Brandan a disservice.

Perhaps seperate threads might be appropriate?

Webber was playing well at the time of his injury...I don't understand how his 15 minutes of play a night has been written off as a total disaster...Webber was starting to fit in..Biedrins and Wright were playing well when they were in with him...All the negativitiy poured on this guy and his min. contract confusese me..Especially when the alternative is worse ball movement - gimmick ball with Trainwreck and Horror Story playing major roles.

LF75 wrote:Webber was playing well at the time of his injury...I don't understand how his 15 minutes of play a night has been written off as a total disaster...Webber was starting to fit in..Biedrins and Wright were playing well when they were in with him...All the negativitiy poured on this guy and his min. contract confusese me..Especially when the alternative is worse ball movement - gimmick ball with Trainwreck and Horror Story playing major roles.

Actually I totally acknowledged the potential and more importantly the IMPROVEMENT the Webber experiment showed as he loosened up and started to actually move and hustle. The problem is, his body apparently couldn't withstand the rigors of converting layups.

It was an intriguing concept (though it was handled rather clumsily) but ultimately Webber can only contribute what his road-weary body can handle, and it couldn't handle much. I'm judging the experiment on its merrits at this point. Without working lower extremities, there just isn't any merrit to trumpet.

It was/is an experiment. The reality of experimenting is that failure in one of the possible outcomes. Irrespective of the potential in adding a HEALTHY Strong Forward with great court vision, hands and a 15 footer, the reality of a gimpy, immoble and now rehabbing Webber is at this point a failure. (If he gets healthy and can play down the road we can try it again I suppose.) For now, arguing in favor of playing Webber - with no left knee - is just bizzare.

Brandan's case isn't an experiment. It's about playing and developing a talent. The circumstances are totally different. Lumping them together is not going to be fair to Brandan when the homer patrol reads this.

I'm still hopeful for both, but my hope is waining.

It pained me in the playoffs that our bench was so short and now with Brandans athleticism oozing on the end of the bench, it makes me kind of sad to know he's not getting in for meaningful minutes.

When a guy is torching us so bad, why won't Nellie just give it the old college try and stomach some rookie mistakes?

Nellie's got extended faith in smallball this year. The resilience of this team has even got him over his head with smallball... Biedrins gets 20 minutes against a team featuring Shaq and Amare? Pietrus gets 39 minutes, at PF?

Because of the talent on this team, we'll win a lot of games... when we meet a disciplined team, it will be curtains over 7 games though...

It takes some talent to be a guard / small forward and not get assists in this offense... I like that Pietrus is rebounding but he does hurt our offense a ton. Averaging less than an assist in 19 minutes, Buke's even averaging 1 in 20... Barnes is better for the ball movement of our offense, and now he's on the bottom rung of the rotation...

We're digging our own grave here

Goose can't guard Shaq, and nobody can guard Amare.

My biggest question about Webber (other than lingering anger about what he did here last time around) was does his body have much left to offer? Unfortunately it looks like it may not.

I've been one of Pietrus' biggest critics, but the guy has actually been playing pretty well lately. His role is to play good defense on whoever he's matched up against (including being able to switch everywhere from the 1 through 4), use his athleticism to grab boards, finish shots around the glass, drain the three, and sometimes take the ball to the hole. Honestly I don't think I want him passing much - except for swinging the ball around the perimeter - because that's just a turnover waiting to happen.

I still like Barnes but he's sure had a rough stretch.

If the Warriors are going to make some noise in the playoffs again, they're going to need some bench guys to step up. And the only bench guy to do that consistently, lately, has been Pietrus. Call me surprised

they made a movie together called mice and men

I missed them too

CWEBB + Biedrins/Wright is the frontcourt I like to see out there with Monta out there because he moves without the ball.

Webber's not even on the bench. The cord has been severed.