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One thing to remember (Cohan)

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:06 am
by mistatwo mayn
is this team is playing on a slippery slope.

Current team rankings:

1) NOR
2) SA
3) LA
4) PHX
5) HOU
6) UTAH
7) DALLAS
8) DENVER
9) GSW

Now where each team is on the payroll?


1) NOR-66*
2) SA-70
3) LA-72
4) PHX-71
5) HOU-71
6) UTAH- 59*
7) DALLAS -105
8) DENVER-84
9) GSW-66**

*-Paul + Deron haven't recieved max contracts yet.
** Foyle still counts against cap (approx 9 mil)

I think this goes back to what LF has been saying :banghead:.... Cohan you cheap bastard get us Elton Brand you dirty whore. Stop being cheap.

Expected Roster salary for next season:

Baron-17
Ellis+Dre- 17
Jax-7
Harrington-9
Wright-2.5
Belli-1.5
Buke-2 (assumed)
Barnes-2 (assumed)
Kost to Kost- 2
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Total: 60 million (+ draft picks).

can they frickin sign someone already?????
Lebron?

Despite the heavy anti Nellie sentiment here, I think he'll play more than Harrington next season along side Dre. Team is on the right path, just that this dip**** is frickin cheap. This the only team in the hunt in the West that is TRUELY under the cap even when signing their young guns.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:18 am
by Hopper15
For some reason, there's this fallacious belief that Cohan isn't cheap. A few years ago, I posted our payroll rank over the Cohan era and we've consistenly been in the 20's. It's a joke.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:28 am
by Abyss Impact
It'll be lower when Baron opts out.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:30 am
by GSWbandwagon
i hate cohan but i've defended him in the past regarding cheapness. no more. in the past there wasn't anything to really complain about salary wise. we lacked talent and cap space. we overpaid a bunch of guys, and jamison's max deal was cohan's call. we never really lost players because we didn't spend money. the team sucked so there was no reason to go into the lux tax to get another 9th man. the only questionable move was dumping jamison.

this time its different. we actually had a playoff team. i'm still fine with the richardson trade because of wright. what we failed at was using that exception to bring in a vet or two who could play 10-15 mpg and take some of the load off of baron, jackson, and monta. we tried with a bunch of injured has-beens at the minimum but failed to use the exception to get a guy like cassell or kurt thomas or whoever. cohan wouldn't spend the money.

what's really shameful is that ticket prices are up and we're selling out like every game, setting all kinds of attendance records, and cohan won't put any of that extra profit (he was already making like $10 mil a year when we sucked) into the product now that there is something worth investing in. screw cohan. cheap prick.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:35 am
by Hopper15
This season, we're up to 17th in payroll while being 6th in attendance.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:43 am
by Sid the Squid
why wouldnt he sell ? I don't understand...I mean if he's that cheap and he's in it for the $$$..Makes no sense not to sell the team to Ellison

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:45 am
by Hopper15
This is his main source of income. It's a cash cow. The appreciation of franchises doesn't seem to be slowing down. It's the best of both worlds.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:05 am
by Yi Jian Lian
i would love to see elton brand here

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:33 am
by gswwhoops!
If Ellison buys the W's imagine what the possibilities could be. We're talking about a man who spent 100+ Mil on a mansion/island.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:00 am
by St.Nick
We would probably turn into the Knicks if Ellison bought us.

In all seriousness, it is pretty lame that we have not used even a piece of that 8M trade exception via the JRich trade.

There is still time in the offseason to use it, but for some reason I dont see it happening.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:57 am
by St.Nick
Just to throw something else out there...if we miss the playoffs by the skin of our teeth do you guys see Cohan "anteing up" for the extra piece that would push us into the middle of the postseason pack next year?

If the guy is that hard up for money I would think that he might miss the instant millions generated from the playoffs; ie higher priced and sold out playoff seats, extra concession sales, extra TV and radio revenue, increased fan optimism going into the next season, etcetera.

If we had pushed for the use of our Trade Exception its likely that we would not be in this dog fight at the end of the season.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:23 am
by Tommy Udo 6
This is the TRUE Warriors salary.

Do not look at Hoopshype. They never corrected Foyle's buyout & have other errors.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... rriors.jsp

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:41 am
by St.Nick
Fantastic site.

Great to see that Sarunas only got a 1M buyout, the little weiner.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:47 pm
by Left*My*Heart
What scares me is how cheap Cohan is going to be with Biedrins. I think Ellis will get his money, but for some reason I think they are going to play hardball with Biedrins.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:22 pm
by mistatwo mayn
If there is no money spent on a FA this summer we need to bust out the tar and feathers

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:51 pm
by Hopper15
We're going to be teetering the luxury tax line after our draft picks, Goose, and Tay are signed. I don't blame Cohan for not going over the tax in any season. But, I hate the fact that nothing was done with the exception when we're like 8M below the tax line this season.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:57 pm
by WarFan
Hopper15 wrote:But, I hate the fact that nothing was done with the exception when we're like 8M below the tax line this season.


Same here. I really hope that the reason the TE was not used was because the FO is planning to be over the tax next year, as a one time thing, and they were saving the money this year to overspend next. So, there's maybe a 1 % chance I won't be pissed at Cohan next year too.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:22 pm
by Hopper15
Little did I know for most of the season that the exception could have been used to sign a FA or FAs. Instead, we get stuck with throw aways like Hudson and Cro.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:27 pm
by Sid the Squid
WarFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Same here. I really hope that the reason the TE was not used was because the FO is planning to be over the tax next year, as a one time thing, and they were saving the money this year to overspend next. So, there's maybe a 1 % chance I won't be pissed at Cohan next year too.
hey i was going to post that^^^

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 10:05 pm
by floppymoose
Hopper15 wrote:Little did I know for most of the season that the exception could have been used to sign a FA or FAs. Instead, we get stuck with throw aways like Hudson and Cro.

Really? I didn't know that. I thought it had to be used in a trade.

Maybe you just mean a sign and trade with another team that is under the cap?