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Post#1 » by BROWN » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:28 am

Answer this question, What was the point to this season?

No playoffs, and no Youth development. What a waste of an exiting team, almost 50 wins and yet still nothing to hold our heads back against.

The development of Monta doesn't count, it was his time to shine, and we all knew this from last year.
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Post#2 » by FNQ » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:31 am

You can't say Monta doesn't count... its unfair to the one positive of the season...

Other than that, I dunno... we dont know exactly until draft day. The point of this season might have been to shed Nellie and become more traditional, or Baron and become less chuck-y. The point could still be coming... hoping its Nellie :pray:

But we also saw enough of Wright to drool...
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Post#3 » by The_Believer » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:38 am

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Post#4 » by BROWN » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:40 am

The best situation would've been to see Wright as a rotational player from the beginning and even if we didn't make the playoffs, would've been a reason to be happy.

Having Monta is one of the reasons I'm not crying right now.
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Post#5 » by Chris Cohan » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:49 am

We don't have Monta yet...
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Post#6 » by Head Leader » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:54 am

its kinda unfair to throw all the blame on nellie for not making the playoffs...

i mean this is the only time in history a team with 48+ wins will not make the playoffs correct?

thats just bad luck.

we arent as deep as we were last year, and even though baron played all 82.. he really didnt play ALL 82.... we got bad baron for about 1/4 of the season... and black santa to top the season off.

any other year and were in there.

the coach finally decided to stop trying to force monta to be a pg only and let him do his thing... and lookie now, monta CAN create for others... go figure.

funny how some basketball loving internet posters seen this before the old drunk man that sees him in practice every day did...hrmmm

the point of this season is Monta Ellis has clearly emerged as our best most consitent player... the latter being the more important in my book... his lack of defense (or the perception hes not a good defensive player).. is more a knock on our wacky defensive scheme then montas abilities or know how on how to defend.

his offense is unstoppable.

Andris has also improved even with the coach collaring him to the tune of a ripe 28mpg.. i dont know if you all have noticedx but andris is a little more comfortable with his back to the basket and moving witht he ball around the basket.. although he puts the ball down for a little crab dribble to much for my liking....

if it werent for the red carpet to the lane any time Barons defensive assignment realizes whose actually guarding him, andris would likely have stayed out of foul trouble.

The point to the season is HOPEFULLY some of you guys have opend your eyes to see that while making the playoffs is cool, doing it in a gimmicky fashion where you really arent developing for anything further is "fools gold" (thanks monty)

the point to this season is, if you allow a free wheeling low percentage shooter to do whatever he wants, they will prove over time, they will play poorly enough to actually LOSE games for you, even though they may win some here and there...(thanks baron)

The point to this season was, Brandan wright getting to do Chris Webbers Laundry while webber got some proffessional massages on his knees, and Per diem to throw at the local strippers across the country.

The point to this season was... going a whoel season trhough the trade deadline and not acquiring a player to help the depth of the bench.

The point was shooting threes to break an all time warriors record.

and finally. the point was... Patrick O'bryant getting the last laugh by kidnapping nellys dog, and throwing him off the Bay bridge.

GET 'em Pat... Get 'em.
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Post#7 » by Chris Cohan » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:13 am

I think I'm rooting for a Phoenix blowout.
I'm ready to see Baron and Jack on the bench. I think they'll crack.

Give me the rooks, Old Man!
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Post#8 » by Sid the Squid » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:24 am

ROWELL wrote:I think I'm rooting for a Phoenix blowout.
I'm ready to see Baron and Jack on the bench. I think they'll crack.

Give me the rooks, Old Man!
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Post#9 » by FaTaL » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:41 am

at least nellie learned that if you run baron and s-jax into the ground during the regular season they'll have nothing left at the end if you need to win clutch games
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Post#10 » by Sid the Squid » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:47 am

There are 3 teams in the west playoff race who really have no reason to be there...GS, Den and Houston....We just moved up 6 spots in the draft..Those other two teams are the suckers!!! What the hell is Denver got to look forward to except an older Camby and Iverson..That franchise is in far worse shape than ours.
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Post#11 » by acidicality » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 am

hopefully, Nellie learns from his mistakes...and most important, extend the rotation so that the starters won't get worn out at the end of the season. hopefully marco and brandan (esp. brandan) get worked into the rotation more next year.
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Post#12 » by FNQ » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:02 am

acidicality wrote:hopefully, Nellie learns from his mistakes..


Stop right there and prepare for mocking.

He's had 1/4 of a CENTURY to learn from his mistakes. No, the big time idiots here were the ones who hired Nellie and then picked up his option midseason.

Mullin's an idiot for being part of the first Nellie cycle, and bringing about the 2nd one.

It feels like the movie V for Vendetta now... I just re-watched it recently, and what the guy says at one point is exactly right for this team. He preached change, not knowing what the change would be, but that it would be better than the known failings we have right now...

I'd much rather throw a dart and hit a college coach's picture rather than go through another season like this.
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Post#13 » by Head Leader » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:10 am

i just want monta in the playoffs so he can see that he can be better then he is right now.. and learn to play liek that all the time...
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Post#14 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:19 am

brownwarriors wrote:Answer this question, What was the point to this season?


Cohan made money.


The team was as entertaining as any team in Basketball with the exception of the pre Shaq Suns. The missing the playoffs hurts but the team peaked at the wrong time and would have been wiped out in the playoffs anyway. This was definitely better than the Monty and Dunleavy show.
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Post#15 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:26 am

gsw510 wrote:
i mean this is the only time in history a team with 48+ wins will not make the playoffs correct?



only time since the 16 team playoffs a team with 48+ did not make the playoffs. The Suns won 49 and did not make the playoffs in the early 1970s. That same season the Sonics won 47 and missed the playoffs. the previous season the Suns won 48 games and missed the playoffs.

Next year also looks very tough in the West.
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Post#16 » by akikan » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:17 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



only time since the 16 team playoffs a team with 48+ did not make the playoffs. The Suns won 49 and did not make the playoffs in the early 1970s. That same season the Sonics won 47 and missed the playoffs. the previous season the Suns won 48 games and missed the playoffs.

Next year also looks very tough in the West.


before the 16 team playoffs... that means it was with less teams in the league and less games? does that mean those teams finished with like a .700 winning percentage and still didnt get in?
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Post#17 » by crzy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:20 am

This thread is way to melodramatic or at least the title is.

We won nearly 50 games and we end up with a lottery pick.

We have a future young core of Ellis, Biedrins, and Wright.

And Don Nelson will be here for (at most) only one more season.

As far as I'm concerned, our future looks good. And it would look even better if we scrap the Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington trio. Sell high on those players and rebuild entirely around our Ellis, Beans, Wright core.
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Post#18 » by Sleepy51 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:30 pm

LF75 wrote:There are 3 teams in the west playoff race who really have no reason to be there...GS, Den and Houston....We just moved up 6 spots in the draft..Those other two teams are the suckers!!! What the hell is Denver got to look forward to except an older Camby and Iverson..That franchise is in far worse shape than ours.


Houston has made a huge mistake this year. They were positioned as the Spurs were the year Robinson went down. They should have faked a Tmac injury (totally plausible) and just played for Beasley. You get a chance to add a top 3 lotto pick to an already contending team with a a credible excuse to not alienate your fanbase, you do it.

I've never been a fan of tanking with a team that already knows and loves losing, but when a house falls on a good team, there's nothing wrong making a strategic decision to prepare for the next campaign.
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Post#19 » by cdubbz » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:44 pm

We should be in the playoffs....plenty of lost opportunities. Started the year 0-6; lost to the bobcats AND wolves....we should be in.

We do have a nice core of youth though....Ellis/Bellinelli, Wright/Biedrins + Azibuke off the bench + 14th pick in the draft.

We can find gold at 14, but it is all up to nellie to develop the pick next year or if he is going to just let him rot like pob and wright did this year.
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Post#20 » by FNQ » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:18 pm

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Houston has made a huge mistake this year. They were positioned as the Spurs were the year Robinson went down. They should have faked a Tmac injury (totally plausible) and just played for Beasley. You get a chance to add a top 3 lotto pick to an already contending team with a a credible excuse to not alienate your fanbase, you do it.

I've never been a fan of tanking with a team that already knows and loves losing, but when a house falls on a good team, there's nothing wrong making a strategic decision to prepare for the next campaign.


When Yao first went down, thats what I thought would happen... I was pissed. HOU really shot themselves in the foot here, as the reason why (I believe) they won so much was the absence of Yao and the inclusion of their undersized, banger PFs in Landry and Hayes.. those guys worked too hard on the glass, and didnt have to fight off as many people. Yao would normally attract a lot of attention to the key. Now with him out, teams focused on McGrady, Alston, Battier... and the Rockets reserves made them pay.

Now Yao's coming back, HOU gets a late pick after being bumped... I wouldn't like it at all if I were a Rockets fan. It's kinda like this season for us... yeah they're in the playoffs, but why? Playing a style of ball that doesn't match up with their strengths? Games like Denver last night aren't really aberrations... truly talented, disciplined teams will take them out to the wood shed.

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