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WHO THE WARRIORS NEED

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:06 pm
by DLeagueAllStars
okay, none of this, rebuild through the draft and all of you who think that every mid 1st round pick is gonna become something, is dillusional... not that many picks after #10 really every become anything, compared to whats being picked top 10.. and to draft 2 guys in one draft that become something, beats all the odds

So my suggestions to make this team deeper.

First it was evident that we need somone to play back up PG.. Monta isnt a PG, and nor is he our PG of the future... So with POR having already 3 PG's and getting Rudy Fernandez this offseaon, the Warriors should go after Steve Blake. He had 5apg last season and is a good outside shooter... he could come in, spell Baron or Monta in the backcourt next season and even play upwards of near 20 mins

Next, wouldnt mind resigning Bukie to a cheap deal, but Barnes and Piety gotta go.. for their replacement, would like to see Mike Miller.. He can shoot lights out, plus for being 6-8, he actually rebounds unlike AL or SJAX. he could start in a pinch, but off the bench, with all the drive and kicks we do, he would be sitting wide open on the outside most of the time.. straight money balls everytime

Lastly, we do need a good size bigman.. if he Declares, would like to see a guy like Darrell Arthur drafted.. granted not much help this comming season, so in the mean time, I see a guy like Wilcox or Haslem helping this team out alot.. either one of those two, would give us a player to match up size against the bigger PF's of the West...

So in all, next seasons roster would look like

Baron/Blake
Monta/Millier/Belli
SJAX/Miller/Bukie
Wilcox or Haslem/Wright/Arthur(draft pick)
Beans/Wilcox or Haslem/Kosta

12 man roster right there


With Haslem you still get a guy who can shoot from about 16ft out, along with the deft shooting of Miller and Blake.. your B-squad actually wouldnt be a liabiltiy next season and if the starters are struggling, you would have a bench full of guys that you can play..

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:26 pm
by bill curley II
Well sure it's great if we can get Mike Miller, Steve Blake, and Udonis Haslem but how? The only guy you took off the depth chart is Al.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:00 pm
by nismolos
eh..i'd rather have Duhon over Blake. He doesn't seem too content in Chicago and he has great court vision and can get real hot...


At this point I just want to state that we are pretty much thin at EVERY position. Lets not make the dumb mistake and draft based on position...just draft the best player available bc you could use one at pretty much every position. At first I was thinking that we needed a true PF and a backup PG primarily... but we need depth at SF, SG and C. I don't consider Barnes or Croshere depth.. (Croshere maybe if he can stay healthy can provide some inside toughness). Harrington might not even be here next year. A lot of members of this board probably prefer Barnes over Petey... I don't know why... at least petey DID something this year. If someone has something positive to say about Barnes' ability to contribute with a straight face and is reasonable, maybe i'll be convinced...but idk if that's possible. I'm starting to like this Eric Gordon guy more and more... he can fill in the depth we lacked when JRICH got traded. I actually don't mind azu playing SF if he comes back... he has the strenth and quickness to guard SF's in this league that aren't 7 feet tall.

Baron/Gordon/Duhon??
Monta/Belli/?
Jack/Pietrus/Azu
Wright/Harrington/??/Croshere
Biedrins/??? POB? :pray: /Kosta??

On paper...SF LOOKS the deepest...idk i'm not satisfied with the players there... We could also use a TALL SG.

I dont know...I am one of the few who is in favor of drafting one of those RAW project centers... Think about it...what if?? Biedrins/Wright/Jordan frontline (jordan reached or near potential) Bynum/Gasol/Odom who? They can matchup with them...and even if we're equal, our guards kill the laker guards (as a whole).

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:18 pm
by Abyss Impact
We don't need Mike Miller. We already have Marco Belinelli.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:40 pm
by DLeagueAllStars
okay, well with POR having 3 PG's already and recieving another one this summer, we should be able to get Blake pretty cheap... or yes, could sign Duhon, but thats adding money to the bank

Next, figure with Pietrus wanting out(think he still does) plus AL not living up to his standards, I could see a deal where MIA and MEM could make a 3 way deal...there would be enough money in those two, to make it happen.. especially if MIA drafts Beasley....

uhmm, didnt take anyone of the depth chart from this season, because we didnt have a bench... why do you think we ran out of gas.. we need to make sure our reserves can play 4 out of 5 nights, and not 1 out of 5 nights

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:42 pm
by Abyss Impact
I'm pretty sure Jackson will be gone next season. Either traded or waived. Hes too much of a trainwreck with his turnovers and lazy defense.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:48 pm
by rutheredfox
jj redick is the answer.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:50 pm
by turk3d
JJs red dick? wtf?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:01 pm
by rutheredfox
you mean redickoulous

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:06 am
by turk3d
rutheredfox wrote:you mean redickoulous


:lol:

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:34 am
by danbanger
what are you talking about man..

FRENCH SEXY , BIEDRINS, BARNES, BELLINELLI, DIOGU, ELLIS

all picked after 10 -- ALL STARS!

ok, maybe not

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:44 am
by GswStorm3
Blake? Haslem? Wilcox? Pass, go sign Chris Duhon. I still get flashbacks about how he abused Monta and Baron this season. Duhon can shoot, pass, drive and defend.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:58 am
by Abyss Impact
What about Lebron James when he is a free agent?

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:44 am
by turk3d
Night Angel 1 wrote:Blake? Haslem? Wilcox? Pass, go sign Chris Duhon. I still get flashbacks about how he abused Monta and Baron this season. Duhon can shoot, pass, drive and defend.

That's only against us though. He shoots 30% against the rest of the league. Did you forget that everybody has their career games against us (see Durant, Green last game)? Don't be deceived by someone just because they light us up.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:11 am
by old rem
nismolos wrote:eh..i'd rather have Duhon over Blake. He doesn't seem too content in Chicago and he has great court vision and can get real hot...


At this point I just want to state that we are pretty much thin at EVERY position. Lets not make the dumb mistake and draft based on position...just draft the best player available bc you could use one at pretty much every position. At first I was thinking that we needed a true PF and a backup PG primarily... but we need depth at SF, SG and C. I don't consider Barnes or Croshere depth.. (Croshere maybe if he can stay healthy can provide some inside toughness). Harrington might not even be here next year. A lot of members of this board probably prefer Barnes over Petey... I don't know why... at least petey DID something this year. If someone has something positive to say about Barnes' ability to contribute with a straight face and is reasonable, maybe i'll be convinced...but idk if that's possible. I'm starting to like this Eric Gordon guy more and more... he can fill in the depth we lacked when JRICH got traded. I actually don't mind azu playing SF if he comes back... he has the strenth and quickness to guard SF's in this league that aren't 7 feet tall.

Baron/Gordon/Duhon??
Monta/Belli/?
Jack/Pietrus/Azu
Wright/Harrington/??/Croshere
Biedrins/??? POB? :pray: /Kosta??

On paper...SF LOOKS the deepest...idk i'm not satisfied with the players there... We could also use a TALL SG.

I dont know...I am one of the few who is in favor of drafting one of those RAW project centers... Think about it...what if?? Biedrins/Wright/Jordan frontline (jordan reached or near potential) Bynum/Gasol/Odom who? They can matchup with them...and even if we're equal, our guards kill the laker guards (as a whole).



3/4 of the roster can play SG or SF. Meanwhile,if Monta is the SG starter...that leaves who at backup PG? Watson is okay but with a half season in the NBA he's hardly a "deep" bench by himself. Kosta will be the lone real C backup...appeared in maybe 5 games?

Raw center? Rawer than POB or Kosta were? Hibbert is a tad raw. Thabeet is really raw and Jordan hasn't even adjusted to the college game yet.

Our PF's are tweeners. There's nobody on the roster I'd call a bruiser. Biedrins is the only reliable frontcourt rebounder. We have little power/post up game and so are too dependant on 3's. Adding Mike Miller to Nellie's mix is like givin' a junkie a big sack of dope.

Blake is the best idea here. He's very much the crafty,old school pass-first type. Like Jazzy he may lack the quicks to be a quality defender,but at least Blake has some skills,if not the tools.

Arthur has often been an airhead. Love,Hansborough,Jason Thompson,Ryan Anderson are all better now with more work ethic to widen the gap. With a trade DOWN we could get Thompson and Anderson.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:30 am
by dunleavyjr
The question is not "who" the Warriors need.

What should be looking into is "what" the Warriors needs.

Clearly it is defense.

Baron has no d
Monte has no d
Jackson plays half d
Biedrin plays no d (though he is a hustle rebounder)
...
The list goes on and on.

Offensively, this team is just too much guard-oriented.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:47 am
by Abyss Impact
IDK why you say Jackson plays half D when you say Davis doesn't play D. Jackson doesn't even jump or put an arm up when hes running toward the shooter. He just runs toward him, and leak out for break, Not even putting his arms up. At least Davis doesn't leave people open when he switches.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:17 am
by The_Believer
I really miss the beginning of the season where Jax was the DPOY, and BD all nba defensive first team. They could shut down anybody while destroying them on the other end. Now they make Durant look like prime Shaq, and can't do anything. WTF happened to their D or overall play?

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:27 am
by frsh90
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:34 am
by turk3d
old rem wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




3/4 of the roster can play SG or SF. Meanwhile,if Monta is the SG starter...that leaves who at backup PG? Watson is okay but with a half season in the NBA he's hardly a "deep" bench by himself. Kosta will be the lone real C backup...appeared in maybe 5 games?

Raw center? Rawer than POB or Kosta were? Hibbert is a tad raw. Thabeet is really raw and Jordan hasn't even adjusted to the college game yet.

Our PF's are tweeners. There's nobody on the roster I'd call a bruiser. Biedrins is the only reliable frontcourt rebounder. We have little power/post up game and so are too dependant on 3's. Adding Mike Miller to Nellie's mix is like givin' a junkie a big sack of dope.

Blake is the best idea here. He's very much the crafty,old school pass-first type. Like Jazzy he may lack the quicks to be a quality defender,but at least Blake has some skills,if not the tools.

Arthur has often been an airhead. Love,Hansborough,Jason Thompson,Ryan Anderson are all better now with more work ethic to widen the gap. With a trade DOWN we could get Thompson and Anderson.

:rofl:
I'm thinking about adding that to my sig rem.