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Baron's opt out date is June 30th

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Baron's opt out date is June 30th 

Post#1 » by Sid the Squid » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:22 pm

Last night a couple media sources had it at the end of May..I didnt think that could be right.

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Post#2 » by Hopper15 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:25 pm

I think BD and his college smoke buddy agent will make it clear to the Warriors what he's going to do before that.
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Post#3 » by turk3d » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:27 pm

He'll have to, if he wants the Ws to offer him any kind of a new deal.
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Post#4 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:27 pm

If he walks away from 17 million dollars I am going to forever refer to June 30th as Todd Ramsmar day.
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Post#5 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:28 pm

Will 17mil get us Iggy?
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Post#6 » by Sid the Squid » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:30 pm

:lol: at Baron saying the team needs more discipline :rofl:
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Post#7 » by Hopper15 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:32 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:Will 17mil get us Iggy?

I think Philly will max him out after they sign Brand.
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Post#8 » by Hopper15 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:37 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:If he walks away from 17 million dollars I am going to forever refer to June 30th as Todd Ramsmar day.

I will note Todd Ramsmar Day in my sig if that happens.
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Post#9 » by turk3d » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:37 pm

Would we really rather have Iggy with a max deal (5-6 years) for $17 Mil than Baron for just 1? And that's with two big deals on the horizon with Andris and Monta. Iggy for all his talent, may have just a big of an ego as Baron, if not now then certainly in the future.
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Post#10 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:52 pm

turk3d wrote:Would we really rather have Iggy with a max deal (5-6 years) for $17 Mil than Baron for just 1? And that's with two big deals on the horizon with Andris and Monta. Iggy for all his talent, may have just a big of an ego as Baron, if not now then certainly in the future.


Relax turkey.

Iggy is just my flavor of the day. Ultimately he would take development minutes away from Rush, and I can't have that.
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Post#11 » by azwfan » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:06 pm

Although i like Iggy, I wouldnt want to spend half of our cap on our back court.

Any good big guys available?
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Post#12 » by shucknjive » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:45 pm

azwfan wrote:Although i like Iggy, I wouldnt want to spend half of our cap on our back court.

Any good big guys available?


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Post#13 » by Hopper15 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:03 am

Nellie mentioned on his radio show today that he spoke to BD about what he should do with his ETO. Nellie said he advised him to do something, but wouldn't say what he advised.
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Post#14 » by Mylie10 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:46 pm

I'm sure Nellie said to play it out and see what he could get after another strong year.

Come on Nellie's always looking out for Nellie, and a motivated Baron is good for Nellie.
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Post#15 » by Left*My*Heart » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:12 pm

I had thought that Baron would play for his 17 mil next season and thought he would be crazy to opt out.

However recently I think Baron will opt out if he thinks he can get a long term deal that will pay him more in the long run than his 17 mil this coming season. I think because of his injury history that he would want the security of a long term deal. He is also coming off a very good season that may weigh favorable to him opting out than to deal with the rigors of another off season/season where the injury bug could catch up with him.
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Post#16 » by marthafokker » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:59 pm

Who is going to pay him more than $17Mil/yr for the next 5 years?

I hope there is a sucker out there.... that means it will be a S&T with Dubbs getting picks and decent players. We need breathing bodies next year anyways with so many FAs.

Uh... Philly come on. Lets hope Philly wants in so we get Evans and Andre Miller. Love Miller's game.... no chucking and a lot of rebounding. On top of it, no Baron 4 times a year.
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Post#17 » by GSWhoopfan » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:09 pm

great...

on the depth chart, we got Baron as the only point guard and now we dont want him back.

i want Baron back for at least 3 more seasons.
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Post#18 » by giberish » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:24 am

marthafokker wrote:Who is going to pay him more than $17Mil/yr for the next 5 years?

I hope there is a sucker out there.... that means it will be a S&T with Dubbs getting picks and decent players. We need breathing bodies next year anyways with so many FAs.

Uh... Philly come on. Lets hope Philly wants in so we get Evans and Andre Miller. Love Miller's game.... no chucking and a lot of rebounding. On top of it, no Baron 4 times a year.


It wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) take 4 extra years at $17M/yr to extend Baron. Baron would have to weigh the odds of what would happen after playing out the last year of his contract for$17M, does he get a ~$17M/yr extenstion as a healthy star player, a ~$13M/yr extension as a lessor star player, a ~$9M/yr extension a talented but inconsistant/injury risk/aging player, or a ~$6M/yr extension as a talented but seriously flawed player.

If he feels that the $17M/yr is most likely and the $13M/yr a worst case scenario then he would only accept a contract now that pays close to $80M over the next 5 years (more than GS should offer).

If he feels (as I do) that the $13M/yr case is most likely with the $9M or $6M options more likely than the $17M option, then he would accept a deal for $70M over the next 5 years. He could opt out of the last year of his current contract to sign a 5 yr/$70M (still a bit more than I would offer)deal even if it payed him less next year in order to make more money in the next 4 years.
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Post#19 » by B-Diddy#1fan » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 am

shucknjive wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Word.....fact is---guard -oriented teams will never advance far in the playoffs. Period.


I think Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls would disagree with you about that.
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Post#20 » by Sid the Squid » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:30 am

BoomFizzle's pretty much screwed on a big extension any time soon...If BoomDizzle shows up for the entire 08-09 season ? He might just get a fat deal from somebody.

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