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Post#1 » by nismolos » Thu May 8, 2008 9:15 pm

Anyway we can ship out a few players and get Antawn and Gilbert back in the bay area (without losing ellis/beans?) S&T Al maybe? Remember i'm salary stupid... but is there anyway it COULD work? I think our team would be greatly improved replacing poor man's Twan with the real Twan (rebounding particularly).
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Post#2 » by nismolos » Thu May 8, 2008 9:20 pm

I'd like to add that I always was a fan of Antawn's heart... he was my favorite warriors of the 2000s. He expressed his dedication to this franchise and wanted to retire with the Warriors... Mix that skill with that devotion and I'd definitely want to bring him back. He could provide that inside scoring that we lack and I think he'd be a great PF under Nellie.

As for Gil, I love the guy even with his ego. We all know there isn't enough room on the roster for Baron/Gil's ego... much less their salaries. I'd rather have Baron...but if Gil insists on opting out if Antwan leaves and we can get him back...i'm all for it.
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Post#3 » by GSWhoopfan » Thu May 8, 2008 9:39 pm

id trade Monta for Gilbert Arenas....easily.

Baron and Gil = best back court in 08
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Post#4 » by Abyss Impact » Thu May 8, 2008 9:58 pm

I'd trade Biedrins for Jamison and Brandan Wright for Gilbert.
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Post#5 » by GswStorm3 » Thu May 8, 2008 10:09 pm

Both players need the ball in their hands, I doubt it would work.
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Post#6 » by ticknyler » Thu May 8, 2008 10:32 pm

if Baron Opts out as well as Arenas, Id like to see Arenas come back and then possible work a Sign and Trade Deal of Al and a future pick for Jamison

Arenas
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Wright, Buike, Belinelli, Kosta, draft pick and a few cheap vets would be nice
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Post#7 » by GSWhoopfan » Thu May 8, 2008 10:52 pm

Night Angel 1 wrote:Both players need the ball in their hands, I doubt it would work.


probably right...but Nellie would make it work.
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Post#8 » by Mylie10 » Fri May 9, 2008 3:35 pm

Effing Dunleavy really screwed the pooch.
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Post#9 » by Sid the Squid » Fri May 9, 2008 4:04 pm

Dunleavy > Tawn
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Post#10 » by Mylie10 » Fri May 9, 2008 4:10 pm

Not for this team.

Funny but when I typed Dunleavy I was thinking of H.R. Puff-n-stuff.
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Post#11 » by killacalijatt » Fri May 9, 2008 4:13 pm

If Gilbert comes home Baron Opts out. Id like to see some kind of SnT involving Ellis for Brand or Smoove.
Then TPE for some like Mike Miller (shooting)or a defence minded player.

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Post#12 » by Warriorfan » Fri May 9, 2008 4:44 pm

With the injury filled year of Arenas I wouldn't want him instead of Ellis who is younger.

The development of Wright is more important for the franchise than Jamison being here.

Besides only way you could one or two of the East Coast All Stars is to trade a Monta or Biedrens.
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Post#13 » by old rem » Fri May 9, 2008 6:59 pm

Warriorfan wrote:With the injury filled year of Arenas I wouldn't want him instead of Ellis who is younger.

The development of Wright is more important for the franchise than Jamison being here.

Besides only way you could one or two of the East Coast All Stars is to trade a Monta or Biedrens.


I think the price tag on Arenas is-as you suggest-Quite high. Jameson? Not near as much. I expect his next deal is less $. Not only is he known for below avg. D...but that gets exaggerated. As if he's terrible and apathetic on D. The truth is-he's always made an effort but still can't anticipate well and lacks the lateral quicks to compensate. Jameson also is not that young now. However-for a few more years-he's a much better rebounder than Al and in close-a better finisher. If Nellie can tune up his D just a bit-and Jameson is in his prime 3 more years....nice move.

Arenas vs Baron? Well....Baron is more of a natural PG,though if Monta is at SG,we'd have a backcourt of 2 combo G's,so it's do-able. My thing...we've got partway to having a team identity/chemistry and should be wary of moves that force us to re-create that. We need to put the finish on what's mostly in place more than junk progress made and start off on yet another concept. You could debate the relative merits of Baron and Arenas-but as it stands-Baron is very much a cornerstone for all ur strategy and tactics. We could much easier swap Harrington for Jamison and move on. There ARE scenarios where "trade Baron" can work. Many of those proposed do not pay off enough. A scenario where Baron opts out...Arenas opts out-we grab Arenas MIGHT happen-but the probability is against us. It would be walking a tightrope....pretty risky as a master plan.
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Post#14 » by old rem » Fri May 9, 2008 7:30 pm

killacalijatt wrote:If Gilbert comes home Baron Opts out. Id like to see some kind of SnT involving Ellis for Brand or Smoove.
Then TPE for some like Mike Miller (shooting)or a defence minded player.

Gilbert
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Mike
Brand
Beans

Can u spell championship :bowdown:


he odds are that we can't pull off all tht transformation. That's a pretty high impact lineup-at least for the starting 5. It's not a "nellieball" type "speed rules" group but could compete in a rather conventional style. We'd need Brand 100% healthy or damn close,and would need to be very wise in filling out the roster. We also-in this scenario-need Cohen willing to spend while Memphis is thinking low payroll. I tend to feel the Griz have done as much as they want in terms of sacrificing to save a buck. Further-I think Cohen's pockets ain't real deep and he won't be for using the TPE $$ as well as re-signing FA's.

This idea is-thus-a longshot. It's worth exploring but to make it happen-Cohen + mullin need to be okay with more $$$$$$...Lux Tax hit etc. Then we also need some desirable player to choose us and-or teams to deal on our terms.

add it up---it's a slim chance it could happen.

Factor in-we have Nellie in probably his last year. Does he think he can quickly adapt 3 new starters-totally re-design all his tactics? Smallball is Nellie's drug of choice. This lineup COULD ultimately be awesome-but it won't be "smallball" so it won't have Nellie's full support. Just the same---IF we are willing to spend-the next coach inherits what can be a real contender-at least-if we can also keep good depth.
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Post#15 » by GSWhoopfan » Fri May 9, 2008 7:57 pm

Gilbert Arenas is the best point guard in the league. How would you not want him? Id even give up Biedrins for Arenas.

Arenas is a flat out stud.
Lets Go Baron Davis...i dont care what jersey you put on. Lets go.
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Post#16 » by Sleepy51 » Fri May 9, 2008 8:01 pm

Arenas isn't a poing guard.
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Post#17 » by warriorguy54 » Fri May 9, 2008 8:02 pm

No way Arenas is better then chris paul at point.
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Post#18 » by Sid the Squid » Fri May 9, 2008 8:07 pm

Woop loves his scorers..I'd be the same way if the league changed the rules and allowed 5 basketballs on the court at the same time.
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Post#19 » by GSWhoopfan » Fri May 9, 2008 8:07 pm

warriorguy54 wrote:No way Arenas is better then chris paul at point.


Chris Paul is overrated (hes got the Derek Fisher good guy label).

2 pgs better than Paul
Arenas and Deron Williams.
Lets Go Baron Davis...i dont care what jersey you put on. Lets go.
Big Smooth is focused and ready to handle the centers of the league.
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Post#20 » by nismolos » Fri May 9, 2008 8:28 pm

Warriorfan wrote:With the injury filled year of Arenas I wouldn't want him instead of Ellis who is younger.

The development of Wright is more important for the franchise than Jamison being here.

Besides only way you could one or two of the East Coast All Stars is to trade a Monta or Biedrens.


If they're both gonna be free agents, no trade with washington is needed... but we'd definitely need to free up some $$.

As for Wright's development...I don't think that Jamison here would stunt his growth. Remember...we need to add depth. If we simply replace players, I dont think we're going to get any better. For now, I think Wright is best suited as a 6th man getting 20-25 min behind Jamison. Maybe Jamison will take Wright under his wing and show him all those nifty flip shots he has down low... Imagine Jamison's scoring ability in Wright's body :o

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