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Two big trades to set up the future and still compete

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:31 am
by dom80e
Trade 1:
Houston trades Battier, B. Jackson, Novak and #25 for S. Jackson and Harrington.
Jackson replaces Battier, but gives them more scoring. Harrington allows them to have a 3 pt shooter in the game that can actually guard bigs.

Chicago trades Hinrich for B. Jackson and #14.
With Rose coming Hinrich is expendable. They cut salary this year and get a pick.

Miami trades Marion for Hinrich, Battier, and Novak.
With Beasley coming in they are looking to win now. Getting two solid defensive starters and shooter to replace what they lost with Kapono would go a long way to acomplishing that goal.

GS trades Jackson, Harrington and #14 for Marion and #25.

Trade 2:
LA trades Maggette, Mobley, Knight, #7 and #35 for Davis, Azubukie, and #25.
LA really improves their back court to go with their already strong front court.

Cleveland trades Szczerbiak, Smith, and #19 for Maggette, Mobley and Perovic.
Cleveland gets Lebron some much needed scoring help. They also pick up a possible future replacement for Ilguaskas.

GS trades Davis, Azubukie, Perovic, and #25 for Szczerbiak, Smith, Knight, #6, #19, and #35.
GS drafts Love with #7, Rush with #19, and Hudson with #35.

Ellis-Hudson
Rush-Belinelli
Marion-Szczerbiak
Wright-Smith
Biedrins-Love

That team should compete for a playoff spot next year, then in 2009 offseason they will get another pick and have $20M in cap space.

2009 Roster if Wright proves he can play SF
Ellis-Hudson
Rush-Belinelli
Wright-FA (Mason, Warrick, Villenueva)
Love-FA (Lee, Frye, Gooden,Wilcox, Frye, Maxiell)
Biedrins-2009 1st

2009 Roster if Wright is purely a PF
Ellis-Hudson
Rush-Belinelli
FA (Granger, Turkoglu, M. Williams)-2009 1st
Wright-FA (Lee, Frye, Gooden,Wilcox, Frye, Maxiell)
Biedrins-Love

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:49 am
by Abyss Impact
Troy Hudson?

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:57 am
by Hopper15
Marion and Davis have opt outs. They cannot be traded before the July and no team will trade for them on a contingency since either or both may opt out.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:59 am
by dom80e
Lester Hudson would be drafted with the #35 pick.
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/lesterhudson.html

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:02 am
by dom80e
Hopper15 wrote:Marion and Davis have opt outs. They cannot be traded before the July and no team will trade for them on a contingency since either or both may opt out.


They can elect not to opt out and agree to the trade and then they no longer have the right to opt out.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:20 am
by FNQ
I don't mind this set of deals at all for 2 reasons:

1) Its roughly doable. All the pieces fit for each team, although I think CHI would be happy with the 19 for Hinrich and his deal, so if you reverse the order or combine the trades, we could ensure Rush would be there. #19 may be a stretch now...

2) The guy who's competing for a new contract and a new salary needs to justify it a lot more. Baron's been in the limelight because of his dunks and talent, but Marion never has. He'd be given the chance to redeem himself going into his contract year... and on a team that struggles w/boards, and himself excelling at them, it could prove to be very beneficial.

A big time concern would be PG though, as Lester Hudson is no more a PG than the rookie Monta was. That can and should be addressed in FA (if Chalmers isn't there at 35)

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:38 am
by cdubbz
I dunno...i dont get the point of wasting time and coming up with trade possibilities since were not the GMs and this isnt gona go anywhere but a dream. yee dig

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:38 am
by cdubbz
I dunno...i dont get the point of wasting time and coming up with trade possibilities since were not the GMs and this isnt gona go anywhere but a dream. yee dig

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:44 am
by Mylie10
REALGM - it's what we do.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:28 am
by Hopper15
dom80e wrote:They can elect not to opt out and agree to the trade and then they no longer have the right to opt out.

Technically, I don't think that is true. Even if it is, Marion's not giving up his no state sales tax status knowing Cohan won't extend him.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:36 am
by Hopper15
Larry Coon FAQ #85 wrote:...teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

...When the trading deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:00 pm
by gswhoops
^ The Trade Checker blurb says that the deal can be done if they waive their opt out clause through, so I don't know...

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:15 pm
by MightyReds2020
This trade makes us instantly worse next season, while the only extra thing we'll keep after next season is Love. I'd rather let Baron expires and keep Al and SJax for 2 more seasons. SJax > Marion.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:55 pm
by Yi Jian Lian
Sure Marion will get us the rebounds and what not, but we won't have a leader type of player that will make others better. With those trades we trade both of them away.