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MEM/GS Trade
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:36 pm
by BarbaGrizz
This trade was suggested in the Grizzlies Board; how GS fans feel about this trade?
MMiller + Javaris Crittenton
for
TPE + #14 + #49
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:43 pm
by floppymoose
Unfortunately, it is unlikely that the Warriors will use the TPE to take on salary. We will have only a small amount (3 or 4 mill) under the lux cap with which to fill out the roster after the Ellis and Biedrins extensions, and this is assuming we just let the TPE expire.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:26 pm
by CrackLaden
Not to mention...I hate Mike Miller.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:28 pm
by Warrior-Poet
enticing, but probably not. the warriors need a rebounding bigman. they might be able to address that need with the #14 pick.
DECLINED. fair trade, but not what the warriors need.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:35 pm
by GSW2K4
Warrior-Poet wrote:DECLINED. fair trade, but not what the warriors need.
Yeah, I don't like giving up the pick for salary when we need to re-sign two major players.
I (and maybe others) might be interested in a deal for the #5 pick, but I can't come up with anything particularly fair.
I do like Crittenton though...Miller I can take or leave.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:42 pm
by GswStorm3
Of course the Grizz would do this trade. It sets them up for a run at Monta freeing up cap space.
Re: MEM/GS Trade
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:51 am
by Sid the Squid
BarbaGrizz wrote:This trade was suggested in the Grizzlies Board; how GS fans feel about this trade?
MMiller + Javaris Crittenton + Larry Ellison
for
TPE + #14 + #49
Deal

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:25 am
by old rem
Warrior-Poet wrote:enticing, but probably not. the warriors need a rebounding bigman. they might be able to address that need with the #14 pick.
DECLINED. fair trade, but not what the warriors need.
I agree in principle. I am afraid the Warriors will draft a 195 lb perimeter shooter instead-in which case Miller would have been a far better option.
Warriors are very unlikely to spend the TPE. All signs have pointed to a swing toward frugality-or at least staying out of the Lux Tax.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:31 am
by old rem
Night Angel 1 wrote:Of course the Grizz would do this trade. It sets them up for a run at Monta freeing up cap space.

I believe you have uncovered a dastardly plot and saved us from ourselves. Really. Probably that's about how this would have ended
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:42 am
by BarbaGrizz
Night Angel 1 wrote:Of course the Grizz would do this trade. It sets them up for a run at Monta freeing up cap space.
Actually, the main target is Josh Smith, not Monta. In a dream world, Grizz lineup would be something like this:
PG- Conley/Lowry
SG- Mayo (#5)/Budinger (#14)
SF- Gay/Walker(#28 )
PF- Smith/Warrick
C- M.Gasol/Milicic/ Dorsey (#49)
I think with this team, Grizzlies can let Monta be yours

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:13 am
by Sid the Squid
that's a 20 win team for the next decade...Your 1st name doesnt happen to be Isiah?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:28 am
by BarbaGrizz
Sid the Squid wrote:that's a 20 win team for the next decade...Your 1st name doesnt happen to be Isiah?
This team is that bad? Really?
And no, my name not Isiah. It
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:43 am
by GSW2K4
BarbaGrizz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
This team is that bad? Really?
If you used the three picks that way -- on three questionable perimeter defenders -- that team would struggle defensively inside and on the perimeter...
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:26 am
by turk3d
CrackLaden wrote:Not to mention...I hate Mike Miller.
Me too.

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:52 pm
by Mylie10
As your deal is stated it goes:
Trade Exception for Miller (9mil)
Crittenden for #14 & #49
Are you freakin kiddin me? Maybe crittenden for the #49.
We can get a better player than him with the #14.
and like Floppy said, the FO is not using the TE.
If it were me I'd go Miller for the TE, and just leave the rest alone.
Re: MEM/GS Trade
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:57 pm
by Rainbow Jumper
BarbaGrizz wrote:This trade was suggested in the Grizzlies Board; how GS fans feel about this trade?
MMiller + Javaris Crittenton
for
TPE + #14 + #49
I like the trade, I think Miller is just what the Warriors need. He is a legitimate 3pt marksman (.432) and can contribute on the boards, a constant Warrior need. I really liked Critt in last years draft. I think his size would make him a very good fit next to Monta in the future, he has a lot of potential.
However, as has been previously noted, there are luxury tax issues to be addressed. This trade is great if Cohan is willing to bite the luxury tax bullet for one maybe two seasons, but that is a big "
if". There is also a great need for more size Al Harrington doesn't play big, and Wright and Biedrins are skinny bigs that can be pushed around.
I could see this trade happening if there were another move involved, possibly Baron to the Knicks for Marbury and the #6 or maybe Al in a deal for a first round pick or someone like Villanueva from the Bucks.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:59 pm
by Chris Cohan
Miller can be acquired anytime. The price would definitely start with the #14 pick and some combination of (guaranteed) immediately expiring contracts. If you take Brian Cardinal off of their hands, they might include Lowry or Crittenton.
Memphis wants more cap relief, always, and is being built for sale.
Their draft picks are staying in their possession.
They do not want any part of Harrington or Jackson.
They do not want any part of Baron Davis in person, either.
But they are among an ever expanding list of teams with strong interest in Baron Davis' expiring contract once it becomes a real commodity.
Memphis is in excellent position to add three or more players in this year's first round, including the #5 overall pick, and shed salary even more to increase sale price on a loaded and cheaply maintained transition roster primed for relocation and major play in successive great FA markets. They have disposable coaching and front office personnel.
Baron would not see the floor in Memphis and would be immediately flipped for some other combination of expiring contracts and recently drafted talent.
If you're the type who really likes Miller and Lowry or Crittenton and perhaps also would like to see about a S&T for Navarro, it's more than doable. Without accompanying proactive moves of Harrington and Jackson, this seems like a great way to do Memphis a lot of favors and let them be better than the Warriors even faster than the current schedule since Miller, though often much better than Harrington and Jackson, is still injury-prone and sometimes NOT better than Jackson and Harrington.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:22 pm
by GswStorm3
BarbaGrizz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Actually, the main target is Josh Smith, not Monta. In a dream world, Grizz lineup would be something like this:
PG- Conley/Lowry
SG- Mayo (#5)/Budinger (#14)
SF- Gay/Walker(#28 )
PF- Smith/Warrick
C- M.Gasol/Milicic/ Dorsey (#49)
I think with this team, Grizzlies can let Monta be yours

Josh Smith isn't going anywhere, the main target would likely be Monta.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:55 pm
by Chris Cohan
Bill Duffy is not allowed to talk substantively with Memphis yet.
But he will be soon enough and, rest assured, the parties have updated their speed dial menus accordingly.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:10 pm
by BarbaGrizz
Night Angel 1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Josh Smith isn't going anywhere, the main target would likely be Monta.
Memphis would offer him 5years, $13.5/year...