Some Bashable ideas

[Em Dzhei]

1) Baron + 49 for Chauncey + 29

2) Pietrus+ Al+ 2009 1st(2nd) rounder for Marion

Both trade partners are willing to try big trades and these are pieces they could likely move..

Dont know bout you but i would like

Chauncey, draftee 29
Tay, Beli, Azu
Jax, Barnes
Marion, Wright, draftee 14
AB, Kosta

We would have decent D, could shoot, could run, could board..

as borat would say: i like..


we would not be too deep though.. and im pretty scared of jax with no bd to keep him in line..

With the picks.. we could trade up to take Westbrook, or try to snatch Alexander and Buddinger.. All are crazy athletic players, which translates into defense, boards and toughness..

[CrackLaden]

BD keeps Jax in line? *shudder*

I'm not sure Chauncey is the guy to target, for a variety of reasons. His being rickety numero uno.

I'm in for getting Marion if the deal is right, and I guess that one probably is acceptable, but I doubt Miami goes for it.

Hopefully not too heavy on the bash...it's not like I have any good ideas.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I would be all for trading up for B-B-B-B-Billups. Shoots and defends better than Baron.

Marion is more than welcome. He'll thrive in any uptempo style of play.

[GSWhoopfan]

Nellie keeps everyone in line. i firmly believe Nellie is the most respected figure in the organization.

[Sleepy51]

He is without a doubt. He's the most respected man in the world of basketball "professionals" who missed the playoffs for 13 of 14 years.

He's the Grand poo bah of up a butt crack. That and $5,000,000 will get you $5,000,000.

[Chris Cohan]

He is without a doubt. He's the most respected man in the world of basketball "professionals" who missed the playoffs for 13 of 14 years.

He's the Grand poo bah of up a butt crack. That and $5,000,000 will get you $5,000,000.

Yes man.
The turd has been polished to a high, blinding sheen.
Fanboy mounting an impressive Kool Aid binge today.
Bully for you in taking up the cause of Reality Defense.


By the way, fanboy, Belinelli was scouted heavily by the Warriors. Mullin and Nelson were 100% sure they had an immediate player to take the sting out of Richardson's departure. Oops.

[GSWhoopfan]

Mullin and Nelson were 100% sure they had an immediate player to take the sting out of Richardson's departure. Oops.

just like Nellie wanted Yi right??? got it

they were 100% sure they had an immediate player to take the sting out of JRs departure...Monta Ellis. Youre right on that one at least.

[GSWhoopfan]

what the Warriors needed was a Monta Ellis replacement. They had a replacement for Jason Richardson in terms of a starting 2 guard.

[Chris Cohan]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Ellis played more minutes and scored more points that ANY other Warrior LAST year. He was already Monta Ellis. He was not here to replace anyone, he simply was and is Monta Ellis.

Belinelli and Azubuike were both expected to do important work and I think Azubuike did well as the 6th man in minutes and points. But Belinelli was indeed scouted, drafted, and given the opportunity to play a big role. Why you feel it necessary to deny this is mystifying. Were you among those predicting his greatness last Summer?

I don't recall saying anything specific about Nelson wanting Yi but he was certainly interested, as was Mullin. He has nothing to do with their work scouting Busty.

[TB]

I don't remember exactly what our FO had to say about Marco, but i do know that he was widely regarded as a guy that would take time to adjust his game to the NBA. So, if Mullin and friends really thought he was ready to be an immediate impact player, I'd consider them idiots. And i should have their job.

[Sleepy51]

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Yes man.
The turd has been polished to a high, blinding sheen.
Fanboy mounting an impressive Kool Aid binge today.
Bully for you in taking up the cause of Reality Defense.

Eh, I'm not taking up your cause. I've had my own cause here for about two years now.

Nellie is what he is. Mullin is what he is. Baron is what he is and Thunder is what he is. They all get paid to be who they are by the same guy. My cause is a slow, patient and generally quiet one. I can't win my battle until Cohan has an epiphany about building his organiztion with neophytes and incompetents. For the time being, I'll take the Nellie and Baron show for now because it's more entertaining than the shows that preceeded it.

But my white whale works upstairs from Nellie and Baron. My enemy is the mother of all incompetents. The guy who holds this franchise back is the one who gives the marching orders. The buck stops where the bucks stop.

And you STH's are part of the problem. Quit paying for this crap. I get 30 other teams with my Warriors purchase. You put gas in Cohan's yacht.

[Chris Cohan]

A few years back, some former associates opted out of some seats we controlled together. I know there was a strong turnover among other longtime ticket holders at about that time. You are expressing precisely the take that was not only relied upon by the front office, but also bought into by all of the (record) new season ticket holders, in recovering from that low point. What you are witnessing are the fruits of the Baron Davis trade, Rowell's cap management, and Mullin's last ditch effort to produce a winner, hiring Don Nelson to coach a short term roster.

Enjoy the show.

[Sleepy51]

It's just going to be another cluster f with the next crew unless the organization is run by people who have been trained in winning ways.

But those people aren't going anywhere because they make Cohan money. I will cheer for my home team no matter how off mission they are. But at the defacto annual shareholders meeting, you voted for the status quo with your wallet. I've been voting against it with mine for the better part of 10 years.

Enjoy your fabulous seats.

[Chris Cohan]

Actually, I think most folks who follow the team and its player-level financial work actively would have shared a common complaint before now: we have a bunch of terrible contracts on a team of average NBA players. Sometimes, worse than average. Sometimes, quite a bit better. But overall, the product was mediocre and hopes were not high once the new CBA rules were in place and we had little to bank serious expectations on.

I'd say the Warriors have responded to those complaints quite aggressively and successfully. Now it's time to see if they have it in them to trust that there are some young players worthy of investment. Bobby has learned a great deal and has excellent relationships with the NBA power brokers. I have no problem with him managing the largest financial moves.

But as to his choice of coaches and talent, he will need to find a replacement for Mullin and Nelson if they cannot seriously prepare for the future and Nelson's retirement.

[Sleepy51]

We need to replace the guy who hired people who had never worked in a winning basketball organization to run our team.

Quit paying them to fail, or shut your cakehole.

[Sleepy51]

Oooh! The Zohan commercial was on again. That's a funny commercial. I find it entertaining, and I like seing one of the guys on my team hamming it up, but I'm not going to pay to see that POS movie.

That's because I'm not a dumbass.

[Chris Cohan]

It's simply too late for that.

Rowell has mastered the salary cap and the negotiating table and is now an incredible asset beyond his top level full organizational administrative skills. The team is not a major market team and is not run to maximize profit quite that way, I'll be the first to admit it, but he knows what he's doing and the full Warrior brand is his creation right now. Mullin and Nelson have strong control of the drafting and acquisition process but Rowell is in charge of, for example, the Baron Davis expiring contract and he has significant authority over all youth movement.

I don't believe Cohan is looking to sell but, as the product continues to be valuable and attract further interest from high level investors, controlling the youth that hold the interest of perfectly smart folks hip to both short term exploitations and long term profit sustainability is not a bad idea.

Rasheed Wallace was a trade possibility last year and the year before that, as well. I would be very surprised if Andris Biedrins and Monta Ellis were suddenly available for such a thing now when they were not before. I would also be just a little surprised if Brandan Wright were made available for such a low reward one year rental considering the player at the heart of proposed Wallace deals, Jason Richardson, was moved to acquire him and it clearly cost the Warriors in the short term.

[Sleepy51]

I'm starting to think you're an astroturfer. Do you work under Rowell, and come here so sell the diehard fans on how strong the organization is, in preparation for the possibility of the team faltering when the financially astute but basketball ignorant regime craters during the next "fiscally responsible" rebuild?

You sound like you're selling something, and the subject change to the Wallace trade was classic Rovian media relations.

If you don't in fact get your spectacular tickets from your boss, stop rewarding mediocrity. Pay them after they win you hypocrite.

[Chris Cohan]

Oh, I'm very much on board with paying Ellis and Biedrins quite well and letting Don Nelson alienate stars like only he can do while seeing if he can get paid by another team for more than just one year.

[Sleepy51]

"Mastered the salary cap"

ROFL. Isn't there some kind of licesnsing exam for running an NBA franchise? Isn't that 1st day of school stuff for the president of a basketball team? And if having the good sense to ask Chris Mullin's opinion, and then do the opposite constitutes "mastery" half this board mastered the salary cap the day Foyle's contract was made public.

I know when I'm being pitched. You work for someone. Come clean, who's coffee do you get?