ImageImageImageImageImage

You Pick a Deal!

Moderators: floppymoose, Sleepy51, Chris Porter's Hair

turk3d
RealGM
Posts: 36,652
And1: 1,278
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
Location: Javale McGee, Dubs X Factor

You Pick a Deal! 

Post#1 » by turk3d » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:31 pm

If the Warriors do deal, what do you think it will be? There's been a lot of speculation of potential deals in numerous threads on both here and the Trade Forum but which one deal do you think is most likely in your own mind as we approach the draft? Of course this is all speculation too. Let's see who gets it right (if any). If you don't believe that there will be a deal, then you can just state No deal (sound familiar?). I'll start with my prediction:

Harrington + Pietrus (S & T) + Kosta + #14 for Marion and 09 Miami #2 and
TPE (7 Mil) for Blount (actually 2 separate deals).

We'll see what happens and if anyone gets it right when it's all said and done. This might help avoid people taking credit for their predictions when they're slightly off or there are others who made the same ones. Keep it all in one thread.
Draymond Green: Exemplifies Warrior Leadership, Hustle, Desire, Versatility, Toughness, fearlessness, Grit, Heart,Team Spirit, Sacrifice
Image
User avatar
Head Leader
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,885
And1: 18
Joined: Nov 16, 2006
Location: El Cerrito, Ca

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#2 » by Head Leader » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:01 pm

if we got beasely id **** a brick.
"I am the Head leader, it all starts with me." - Monta Ellis

www.amuseaudio.com
User avatar
WarFan
RealGM
Posts: 14,030
And1: 1,507
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
Location: Aptos, CA
     

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#3 » by WarFan » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:24 pm

turk3d wrote:Harrington + Pietrus (S & T) + Kosta + #14 for Marion and 09 Miami #2 and
TPE (7 Mil) for Blount (actually 2 separate deals).



For that trade to work, we'd have to send the TPE for Blount by 6/30, pick someone at 14 for Miami and then wait two weeks until we could sign Pietrus and trade him with Al, Kosta and the pick for Marion on July 9. That ain't happening.
turk3d
RealGM
Posts: 36,652
And1: 1,278
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
Location: Javale McGee, Dubs X Factor

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#4 » by turk3d » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:33 pm

WarFan wrote:
turk3d wrote:Harrington + Pietrus (S & T) + Kosta + #14 for Marion and 09 Miami #2 and
TPE (7 Mil) for Blount (actually 2 separate deals).



For that trade to work, we'd have to send the TPE for Blount by 6/30, pick someone at 14 for Miami and then wait two weeks until we could sign Pietrus and trade him with Al, Kosta and the pick for Marion on July 9. That ain't happening.

What if Marion accepts his option before that? Even so, it's one of those that completed later on if need be. You're right, it may not happen (nothing may happen), it's just one that to me is one of the most realistic and beneficial to the Warriors that I think is out there.
Draymond Green: Exemplifies Warrior Leadership, Hustle, Desire, Versatility, Toughness, fearlessness, Grit, Heart,Team Spirit, Sacrifice
Image
User avatar
WarFan
RealGM
Posts: 14,030
And1: 1,507
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
Location: Aptos, CA
     

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#5 » by WarFan » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:49 pm

turk3d wrote:
WarFan wrote:
turk3d wrote:Harrington + Pietrus (S & T) + Kosta + #14 for Marion and 09 Miami #2 and
TPE (7 Mil) for Blount (actually 2 separate deals).



For that trade to work, we'd have to send the TPE for Blount by 6/30, pick someone at 14 for Miami and then wait two weeks until we could sign Pietrus and trade him with Al, Kosta and the pick for Marion on July 9. That ain't happening.

What if Marion accepts his option before that? Even so, it's one of those that completed later on if need be. You're right, it may not happen (nothing may happen), it's just one that to me is one of the most realistic and beneficial to the Warriors that I think is out there.

Marion accepting his option has nothing to do with it. The problem is that the draft is June 26th, the TPE expires June 30th, and technically no team can even negotiate with any FA's until July 1st, and can't sign them until July 9th. Basically, Pietrus cannot be included with the pick or the TPE in any trade.

Also, I don't think it is realistic because of the salaries. The guaranteed salaries going out in this deal are about 13 million (Al, Kosta and #14) while the incoming guaranteed salary is about 26 million. That's 13 million in additional salary which will most likely all be over the luxury tax limit, so that's like adding 26 million over next years projected salary for a team that I'm certainly not convinced is that much better (if at all) than last years.
User avatar
Head Leader
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,885
And1: 18
Joined: Nov 16, 2006
Location: El Cerrito, Ca

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#6 » by Head Leader » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:23 pm

Take this for what its worth.

I work with a guy whose niece is dating Kosta Kofus (yes ive seen pictures and proof).
Apparently Kosta Kofus told his g/f that the Cavaliers are ready to pick him , in fact they already have a locker for him and everything.

So with that knowledge I've conjured up the following scenario.

At #14 the Warriors Draft Kosta Koufos
They then trade Kosta K. to the Cavaliers along with Al Harrington.
for
Shannon Brown, Andreson Varaejo, and the #19.

with the #19 Selection they pick Jason Thompson out of Rider. or another C prospect if Thompson is not there.

oh yea.

book it.

edit: ehhh i frogot shannon brown got traded so just replace him with a wing, or dont include him at all.
"I am the Head leader, it all starts with me." - Monta Ellis

www.amuseaudio.com
GSWfAnViNnY
Banned User
Posts: 510
And1: 3
Joined: Jun 17, 2007
Location: THE BAY WHERE THE BALLAS PLAY

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#7 » by GSWfAnViNnY » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:41 pm

How Bout

Harrington
Wright
Kosta
Marco
#14

For

Marion
#2
#52

Lineups
Baron/
Ellis/#49
Jackson/Marion
Beasley/Marion
Biendrins/#52

???/#14
Wade/Belli
Harrington
Haslem/Wright
Blount/Kosta

Then trade Jax for some cap space or keep him.
User avatar
WarFan
RealGM
Posts: 14,030
And1: 1,507
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
Location: Aptos, CA
     

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#8 » by WarFan » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:46 pm

GS sends: Harrington, 14
Mil sends: Simmons, 8

GS drafts: Kevin Love

:wordyo:
turk3d
RealGM
Posts: 36,652
And1: 1,278
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
Location: Javale McGee, Dubs X Factor

Re: You Pick a Deal! 

Post#9 » by turk3d » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:26 am

WarFan wrote:For that trade to work, we'd have to send the TPE for Blount by 6/30, pick someone at 14 for Miami and then wait two weeks until we could sign Pietrus and trade him with Al, Kosta and the pick for Marion on July 9. That ain't happening.

turk wrote:What if Marion accepts his option before that? Even so, it's one of those that completed later on if need be. You're right, it may not happen (nothing may happen), it's just one that to me is one of the most realistic and beneficial to the Warriors that I think is out there.

WarFan wrote:Marion accepting his option has nothing to do with it. The problem is that the draft is June 26th, the TPE expires June 30th, and technically no team can even negotiate with any FA's until July 1st, and can't sign them until July 9th. Basically, Pietrus cannot be included with the pick or the TPE in any trade.

Also, I don't think it is realistic because of the salaries. The guaranteed salaries going out in this deal are about 13 million (Al, Kosta and #14) while the incoming guaranteed salary is about 26 million. That's 13 million in additional salary which will most likely all be over the luxury tax limit, so that's like adding 26 million over next years projected salary for a team that I'm certainly not convinced is that much better (if at all) than last years.


Obviously confusing, if Marion opts-in (which he can do and would have to in order for it to work I believe), Miami can trade him (which would mean that he would have agree to the trade). The trade would have to take place right after the draft (which may mean that the Warriors would have to pick the player that Miami wanted at 14). It would be Marion's 18M, vs Al's 9 Mil + Kosta's ~ 2M. After the draft, they could then sign Pietrus for whatever it would take to make things work (4-5Mil) and they could then throw in CJ as filler if needed + they get another $100K to balance things out according to the CBA. If I'm not mistaken, all they have to do is meet 75% - 100K of Marions 17.8M = 13.25M.

Then they do the Blount for TPE part of the deal at 8.5M. Of course this doesn't take into consideration the cap hit we'd take but we could instead include Jackson (instead of Pietrus)
which would eliminate much of the "cap hurt" since we wouldn't have to sign Pietrus or if we did (decided to keep him), not for as much. Of course I'm expecting Gump to show up at this time and drill me once again as he usually does. I just wish he would tell me how we could do it instead of telling me he knows that we won't or we can't as this is only speculation on my part.

If it's a Marion "opt-in" then that means we would have both he and Baron at potentially one
year deals and would be in a pretty good position in terms of being able to control our
spending so I'm alright with this. Even with all the Cohan negativity, this would be the ideal
situation for him to take a cap hit, it would be relatively small, and he would have control
over next year and if he chose to he could cut salary way down. With Nellie leaving, it wouldn't
be a bad time to rebuild. New coach, solid young core and possibly some serious money to spend.

Baron
Monta
Jackson or Pietrus
Marion
Biedrens

I think that barring injuries that team would be a shoe-in for the playoffs.
Draymond Green: Exemplifies Warrior Leadership, Hustle, Desire, Versatility, Toughness, fearlessness, Grit, Heart,Team Spirit, Sacrifice
Image

Return to Golden State Warriors