WarFan wrote:For that trade to work, we'd have to send the TPE for Blount by 6/30, pick someone at 14 for Miami and then wait two weeks until we could sign Pietrus and trade him with Al, Kosta and the pick for Marion on July 9. That ain't happening.
turk wrote:What if Marion accepts his option before that? Even so, it's one of those that completed later on if need be. You're right, it may not happen (nothing may happen), it's just one that to me is one of the most realistic and beneficial to the Warriors that I think is out there.
WarFan wrote:Marion accepting his option has nothing to do with it. The problem is that the draft is June 26th, the TPE expires June 30th, and technically no team can even negotiate with any FA's until July 1st, and can't sign them until July 9th. Basically, Pietrus cannot be included with the pick or the TPE in any trade.
Also, I don't think it is realistic because of the salaries. The guaranteed salaries going out in this deal are about 13 million (Al, Kosta and #14) while the incoming guaranteed salary is about 26 million. That's 13 million in additional salary which will most likely all be over the luxury tax limit, so that's like adding 26 million over next years projected salary for a team that I'm certainly not convinced is that much better (if at all) than last years.
Obviously confusing, if Marion opts-in (which he can do and would have to in order for it to work I believe), Miami can trade him (which would mean that he would have agree to the trade). The trade would have to take place right after the draft (which may mean that the Warriors would have to pick the player that Miami wanted at 14). It would be Marion's 18M, vs Al's 9 Mil + Kosta's ~ 2M. After the draft, they could then sign Pietrus for whatever it would take to make things work (4-5Mil) and they could then throw in CJ as filler if needed + they get another $100K to balance things out according to the CBA. If I'm not mistaken, all they have to do is meet 75% - 100K of Marions 17.8M = 13.25M.
Then they do the Blount for TPE part of the deal at 8.5M. Of course this doesn't take into consideration the cap hit we'd take but we could instead include Jackson (instead of Pietrus)
which would eliminate much of the "cap hurt" since we wouldn't have to sign Pietrus or if we did (decided to keep him), not for as much. Of course I'm expecting Gump to show up at this time and drill me once again as he usually does. I just wish he would tell me how we could do it instead of telling me he knows that we won't or we can't as this is only speculation on my part.
If it's a Marion "opt-in" then that means we would have both he and Baron at potentially one
year deals and would be in a pretty good position in terms of being able to control our
spending so I'm alright with this. Even with all the Cohan negativity, this would be the ideal
situation for him to take a cap hit, it would be relatively small, and he would have control
over next year and if he chose to he could cut salary way down. With Nellie leaving, it wouldn't
be a bad time to rebuild. New coach, solid young core and possibly some serious money to spend.
Baron
Monta
Jackson or Pietrus
Marion
Biedrens
I think that barring injuries that team would be a shoe-in for the playoffs.