Monta - Kobe comparison..The 3rd year out of high school

[Sid the Squid]

YEAR THREE

Bryant 37.9 mpg
Ellis 37.9 mpg

Bryant 19.9 ppg
Ellis 20.2 ppg

Bryant 5.3 rebs
Ellis 5.0 rebs

Bryant 3.8 ass
Ellis 3.9 ass

Bryant 46.5% fg
Ellis 53.1% fg


BTW..Monta's #'s were better than Kobe's in year 1 and 2.

Ellis will never be anywhere close to the defender Kobe once was..That's a total mismatch...But offensively? This kid we just locked up for 6 years is D Y N O M I T E !!

[floppymoose]

How much older is year 3 Monta than year 3 Kobe?

[Sid the Squid]

Probably a year..but Monta grew up in friggen Mississippi..We'll call the age edge to Monta and the basketball enviroment edge to Kobe.

[Coxy]

The size tips it every time. Monta's a SG in a PG's body and Kobe's a SG in a SF's body. Monta is no Kobe and Kobe is no Monta.

[And 1 Amare]

I see Monta as a more athletic version of Tony Parker. He can score better than Parker too.

[KR4]

Sid, you've changed man...you've changed. You used to be Chicken Littlesque. It'll take a sec to get used to.

Crazy numbers though.

[Coxy]

I see Monta as a more athletic version of Tony Parker. He can score better than Parker too.

That's sounds about as close a comparison as you can make. However Parkers success has come aboutwith the help of handy PF in Timmy D

[Yi Jian Lian]

The size tips it every time. Monta's a SG in a PG's body and Kobe's a SG in a SF's body. Monta is no Kobe and Kobe is no Monta.

Kobe has the size of a shooting guard. I think the prototypical small forward height should be at least 6' 8".

[BROWN]

Don't get ahead of yourself now Sid, You don't want to jinx the man. Anyways the numbers look similar, but it ain't always about the numbers my man.

[KR4]

The size tips it every time. Monta's a SG in a PG's body and Kobe's a SG in a SF's body. Monta is no Kobe and Kobe is no Monta.

Kobe has the size of a shooting guard. I think the prototypical small forward height should be at least 6' 8".

Yi, I think Kobe's 6'8''

[Za_Warrior]

There are many ways that you can't compare the two, guys, but to me these stats are still a very positive sign of the young guys potential and exactly as Sid said, it shows what kind of an offensive weapon he can be, now I just want to see an 80 point game from Monta

[tsherkin]

Kobe is 6'6 or 6'7, not 6'8, but he has the bulk and athleticism to match most non-Lebron small forwards.

To the OP (who sagely notes that the comparison is not direct but rather merely an indicator of strong promise from Monta), nice little piece; it's illustrative of the fact that Monta is moving along at a fine clip, doing very good things.

To the rest: we know that Monta will not be as physical as Kobe, will never be a dominant DrawF guy because of his sleight frame (not without risking Iverson-style repetitive injuries and such).

He is still a clever mid-range scorer with as-yet-to-be-determined potential as a point guard and ball-handler. We know he's got an excellent off-ball game and in-motion attack and an extremely efficient mid-range jumper... and we know he doesn't kill ball movement or do a lot of over-dribbling. We know he's 22 (going on 23; he was 2 years older than Kobe when he first hit the league) and that means he's got basically an entire career's worth of potential in front of him, including some further physical development.

As far as the Parker comparisons go... Parker makes more forays all the way to the rim and works on-ball a little more. He's also an inch or two shorter, as I recall, and plays more regularly in the pick-and-roll with Duncan (with whom he has had the pleasure of playing his entire career to date).

Monta's much more of a shooter than Tony (who took a long time to develop his jumper... though his development of a 3pt shot is actually quite encouraging for the prospects of Monta doing the same... is there someone of Chip Engelland's quality as a shooting coach on the Warriors payroll?).

[floppymoose]

There may also be some pace inflation of Monta's stats vs Kobe.

[Sid the Squid]

And some chucking deflation.

[Sleepy51]

"After being treated for a kidney stone, Lakers coach Phil Jackson said "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing." "

Monta > Kobe because he's not a dickbag.

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