Official Trade Ideas Thread

cmaff051 · Post #61 » by **cmaff051** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:41 am

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And on that note. Good night. Remember these words....when teams buy low, they are going to give low. Remember what we gave up to get Bobby last year? Let me know how those scrubs are doing for Philly right now.

C.J. Henry is debating whether or not he wants to play baseball again next year... he may just use his final 2 years of eligibility to play basketball at Texas..

ReggieFULLeffect · Post #62 » by **ReggieFULLeffect** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:27 pm

Todd Linden, in that scenario, would have been the 4th outfielder and would not have played everyday or anywhere near everyday. Maybe once in a week at most. Dealing Cano forces us to put Cairo there every single day and our options in the minor league are guys like Chris Basak. Huge difference. -Jitpal

Factor in how banged up Johnny Damon is and the sudden injury prone Matsui and then you will realize that he would have been playing more than once a week. Damon or Matsui (more Damon) can go down at any moment with ANY type of injury which means Melky to CF and Linden to RF.

Our OF is just too injury prone (and old) to think that a 4th OF would be riding the pine more often than not.

Jitpal · Post #63 » by **Jitpal** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:30 pm

Philly might be in need for some bullpen relief. They don't have a closer now that Bret Meyers left the game with something wrong in his shoulder. Tom Gordon is still on the DL. Maybe they would be interested in Farnsworth? Something like Farnsworth for Shane Victorino as the main pieces. They have a few outfielders and are really in need of a closer and Farnsworth can be that guy for them. We have Chris Britton in the minor leagues just owning everyone, closing for AAA. We can bring him up. Farnsworth has dropped out of the 8th inning role in tight situations and Procter and Bruney have stepped in there. Britton comes in for that 6th or 7th inning role and we don't skip a beat. We add an excellent defensive outfielder who is very quick on the bags and an excellent defender. It'll help late in innings when we need to replace at least two of our outfielders for defensive purposes and in late game running situations. Thoughts? -Jitpal

34Celtic · Post #64 » by **34Celtic** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:15 am

Jitpal wrote:Philly might be in need for some bullpen relief. They don't have a closer now that Bret Meyers left the game with something wrong in his shoulder. Tom Gordon is still on the DL. Maybe they would be interested in Farnsworth? Something like Farnsworth for Shane Victorino as the main pieces. They have a few outfielders and are really in need of a closer and Farnsworth can be that guy for them. We have Chris Britton in the minor leagues just owning everyone, closing for AAA. We can bring him up. Farnsworth has dropped out of the 8th inning role in tight situations and Procter and Bruney have stepped in there. Britton comes in for that 6th or 7th inning role and we don't skip a beat. We add an excellent defensive outfielder who is very quick on the bags and an excellent defender. It'll help late in innings when we need to replace at least two of our outfielders for defensive purposes and in late game running situations. Thoughts? -Jitpal

Shane Vic has Delucci written all over him :nod:

NYKnSTILL! · Post #65 » by **NYKnSTILL!** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:59 am

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Shane Vic has Delucci written all over him

Shane Victorino is way better than Delluci all around

Jitpal · Post #66 » by **Jitpal** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:20 am

I really think this is a deal we have to pursue. We get younger, we get a replacement(stopgap) for Abreu until Tabata gets up here, we gain defense, we gain a guy who can steal a bunch and we cut some salary. Best part is getting rid of Farnsworth is going to save Joe from himself because Chris Britton is going to have better than 5+ERA in a 6th or 7th innings role. Plus Victorino, coming here, will hit much better. Get him in front of Kevin Long and watch the magic. If Long can help Arod who is by all accounts one of the best hitters in baseball then Victorino should not be a problem. Plus, in the Philly lineup he gets no protection, here he will. Batting in between Cano and Damon he is going to get pitches to hit. They will not nibble with him because everyone else is so deadly. He is going to get fastballs and they are going to be over the plate. He could easily hit .280-.285. Cashman get it done. -Jitpal

ReggieFULLeffect · Post #67 » by **ReggieFULLeffect** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:20 am

I like the deal. Vic is a very good all around scrappy player, a player the Yanks could use. That would make it much easier to trade Abreu or even Melky and it would rid us of Farnie.

cmaff051 · Post #68 » by **cmaff051** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:37 pm

Shane Victorino is awful, we can do better than that in RF.

34Celtic · Post #69 » by **34Celtic** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:39 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Shane Victorino is way better than Delluci all around

It was a compliment, I like Dellucci. They are both hard nosed in your face players with some decent pop, can run fairly good...

With Tabata, I see no reason we can't sign Ichiro to a 3 year deal. Everyone is making it sound like this kid is going to be ready in '09. Lets let him prove himself at each level before we go throwing him out in the spotlight

cmaff051 · Post #70 » by **cmaff051** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:41 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It was a compliment, I like Dellucci. They are both hard nosed in your face players with some decent pop, can run fairly good...

With Tabata, I see no reason we can't sign Ichiro to a 3 year deal. Everyone is making it sound like this kid is going to be ready in '09. Lets let him prove himself at each level before we go throwing him out in the spotlight

No thanks, let's sign someone cheap like Eric Byrnes instead of going for Ichiro, who is quite overrated to begin with and is going to lose the speed that makes his game go as he gets older.

ReggieFULLeffect · Post #71 » by **ReggieFULLeffect** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:40 pm

I would have to agree -- Ichiro hasn't been the same the past two years and the numbers he is putting up wouldn't match up to the money he would be asking for. I love the idea of Byrnes

Jitpal · Post #72 » by **Jitpal** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:58 pm

If Brett Myers