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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#21 » by CalilLove89 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:55 am

Sonny_D1 wrote:Bush is a beast, has been since he came out of Louisville. He has surprising quickness for such a powerful back and has a few 60+ yard TD's under his belt. Plus he's a very good receiver out of the backfield. I think with his contract he's an absolute STEAL.

I really like Forte but RB is the one of the easiest positions to fill. As far as his contract offer from the Bears and what Forte is/was probably expecting, this is a pretty good article that sums things up nicely:

http://chicagofootballtalk.com/blog/com ... rtes-worth

Anyway, Bush is a beast. Very excited to watch this team next year.


8.5 million a year for a running back, when you have Cutler and Brandon Marshall, no thanks, to much, to long of a deal.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#22 » by shugknight » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:08 pm

Let Forte cry all he wants. Trade him if it's needed.

I think Forte is nothing but a contract player. Meaning that he'll only play his best when a contract is in place. Maybe the Bears FO knows this and this is why they signed Bush. It's a testimony to Forte that if he doesn't want to give 100% every day of every year he's with the Bears.. we can always move on and it won't be hard to replace his numbers.

He's an exciting player, and makes big plays.. but 90% of the time, he's getting stuffed behind the line.

I think Biggie said it.. I like Forte.. but I don't LOVE him.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#23 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:18 pm

shugknight wrote:Let Forte cry all he wants. Trade him if it's needed.

I think Forte is nothing but a contract player. Meaning that he'll only play his best when a contract is in place. Maybe the Bears FO knows this and this is why they signed Bush. It's a testimony to Forte that if he doesn't want to give 100% every day of every year he's with the Bears.. we can always move on and it won't be hard to replace his numbers.

He's an exciting player, and makes big plays.. but 90% of the time, he's getting stuffed behind the line.

I think Biggie said it.. I like Forte.. but I don't LOVE him.

Forte needs to understand that the Bears have power over him for two more seasons. We franchised him this season & we can franchise him next season. It's business.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#24 » by shugknight » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:38 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:
shugknight wrote:Let Forte cry all he wants. Trade him if it's needed.

I think Forte is nothing but a contract player. Meaning that he'll only play his best when a contract is in place. Maybe the Bears FO knows this and this is why they signed Bush. It's a testimony to Forte that if he doesn't want to give 100% every day of every year he's with the Bears.. we can always move on and it won't be hard to replace his numbers.

He's an exciting player, and makes big plays.. but 90% of the time, he's getting stuffed behind the line.

I think Biggie said it.. I like Forte.. but I don't LOVE him.

Forte needs to understand that the Bears have power over him for two more seasons. We franchised him this season & we can franchise him next season. It's business.


He also needs to understand that talking crap about the FO and asking for more money will not get you anywhere. He should ask Mr. Briggs.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#25 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:47 pm

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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:
shugknight wrote:Let Forte cry all he wants. Trade him if it's needed.

I think Forte is nothing but a contract player. Meaning that he'll only play his best when a contract is in place. Maybe the Bears FO knows this and this is why they signed Bush. It's a testimony to Forte that if he doesn't want to give 100% every day of every year he's with the Bears.. we can always move on and it won't be hard to replace his numbers.

He's an exciting player, and makes big plays.. but 90% of the time, he's getting stuffed behind the line.

I think Biggie said it.. I like Forte.. but I don't LOVE him.

Forte needs to understand that the Bears have power over him for two more seasons. We franchised him this season & we can franchise him next season. It's business.


He also needs to understand that talking crap about the FO and asking for more money will not get you anywhere. He should ask Mr. Briggs.

:lol: Briggs is a perfect example of a player overvaluing themselves.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#26 » by panthermark » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:18 pm

Love Forte...
Love the signing of Bush...

But Forte needs to understand leverage....and that he lacks it.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#27 » by blumeany » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:21 pm

What we know:

1. The Bears *have* overpaid for backup running backs lately (Taylor, MBIII), so yes, I can see where Forte is peaved that he's been producing and being paid less than a million a year for it.

2. The Bears came around early and gave him what they thought was a fair offer, their point being that he should take thier offer now, and make more money in the long run, rather than hold out for more and cause them to Franchise him for less. He had an offer better than the franchise tag on the table, and rejected it - REMEMBER THAT.

3. Forte played the 'I might hold out' card last year, and bluffed. That just weakened his position even further. He was actually better off holding out last year, because his salary was so low. As Biggs pointed out this morning, if he holds out this year he'll be losing more money in those 6 games than he's made in his career thus far. :)

4. Running Back is one of the easiest positions to fill/make up for in the league.

5. The Bears needed to sign Bush anyways. Every good team needs two good running backs and for Forte to PUBLICLY and directly bitch about it right after Bush was signed is a little (pardon the pun) Bush League to me.

I say, test the market for a Forte trade. I don't like the Freeney trade that was floated about by Dave Richard, as I think that would be a major ripoff. Freeney is clearly in the twilight of his career. I think if you can get a first round pick and/or a starting WR or O Lineman, do the deal.

But don't get me wrong, I do love Forte, I just don't think it's worth the headache if he doesn't want to sign a reasonable contract.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#28 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:56 pm

Blumeany, I would do the Forte for Freeney trade if the Colts included a 2nd or 3rd round pick to the mix. I don't expect the Colts to have a stellar record this season, so their 2nd rd pick would basically be a 1st rounder & their 3rd rd pick would basically be a 2nd round pick.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#29 » by heir_jordan22 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:55 pm

CalilLove89 wrote:
Sonny_D1 wrote:Bush is a beast, has been since he came out of Louisville. He has surprising quickness for such a powerful back and has a few 60+ yard TD's under his belt. Plus he's a very good receiver out of the backfield. I think with his contract he's an absolute STEAL.

I really like Forte but RB is the one of the easiest positions to fill. As far as his contract offer from the Bears and what Forte is/was probably expecting, this is a pretty good article that sums things up nicely:

http://chicagofootballtalk.com/blog/com ... rtes-worth

Anyway, Bush is a beast. Very excited to watch this team next year.


8.5 million a year for a running back, when you have Cutler and Brandon Marshall, no thanks, to much, to long of a deal.


Where are you getting $8.5M a year??? The article clearly states 6 years, $36M with almost $14M of that guaranteed. That's $6M a year. If the offer is six I can understand how he would want more. I think eventually he will give in though. HE WAS OFFERED $6M A YEAR! That's 9th in the league. It's completely understandable that he is pissed off the Bears think he isn't a top 5 RB when he is third in the league in yards since he entered the league. And other backs are constantly brought in and paid more than him.

Why are you people calling this man stupid and saying he's a whining, crying headache? He is being undervalued!

He will end up taking less because the bears do have leverage, but your bashing this man who has carried your team on offense because he's upset the FO doesn't acknowledge he has carried the team? This is the guy who has come to work every day as one of the lowest paid players on the roster and actually does his job day in and day out.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#30 » by blumeany » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:45 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:Blumeany, I would do the Forte for Freeney trade if the Colts included a 2nd or 3rd round pick to the mix. I don't expect the Colts to have a stellar record this season, so their 2nd rd pick would basically be a 1st rounder & their 3rd rd pick would basically be a 2nd round pick.


Agreed. I would want at least a couple picks included.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#31 » by Sinistar6 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:41 pm

I would love to trade forte...
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#32 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:07 am

It's quite possible that we'll see a draft day trade involving Forte.
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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#33 » by shugknight » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:41 am

Let's trade Forte for Peyton Manning..

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Re: Bears Sign RB Michael Bush\Matt Forte: HE MAD 

Post#34 » by transplant » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:39 pm

Like the Bush signing...works on several levels.

As for Forte, as is the case with many athletes, he needs a damn twitter condom. Disrespect? C'mon Matt, yeah the Bears have signed a lot of running backs to good money while you've been here, but none have been paid anywhere near what the Bears have already offered you. You were a second-round pick and had to pay your dues...just as in any sport, the Bears don't "owe you" because you outperformed your rookie contract...this happens all the time.

Forte's gonna get paid serious money next season whether it's on a franchise contract for one year or a longer deal if it can get worked out. And Matt, please quit shoving the DeAngelo Williams contract in the Bears face. The stupidity of one team does not compel every team to be stupid.
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