We didn't get Kellen because we got Kellen (TE discussion)

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*BUMP*

He's available again:

Kellen Winslow was acquired by the Seattle Seahawks in the hopes that along with Zach Miller the duo could become a formidable set of tight ends who could add another element to the Seahawks offense.

Those plans drastically changed on Saturday when Winslow was released by the team, keeping true to the Seahawks' past form of tinkering with their roster even after all training camp cuts are made.

A team spokesman confirmed Winslow's release shortly after it was first reported by ESPN.com. Winslow was scheduled to make $3.3 million in base salary in 2012, after his trade from Tampa Bay to Seattle in May.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/83270 ... en-winslow

[patryk7754]

I'd rather sign Cooley

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I was wondering if we're gonna sign anyone from the waiver wire. I know we're close to getting Okoye back, but are there other targets?

[patryk7754]

I think we need to sign Dan Koppen and signing Cooley would be a luxury I think we could afford

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I think we need to sign Dan Koppen and signing Cooley would be a luxury I think we could afford

I don't have a problem with Cooley, but Koppen is a Center. I think that our interior line is not the most pressing need. If Webb starts at LT, Williams will probably be our starting Guard again.

[patryk7754]

I think we need to sign Dan Koppen and signing Cooley would be a luxury I think we could afford

I don't have a problem with Cooley, but Koppen is a Center. I think that our interior line is not the most pressing need. If Webb starts at LT, Williams will probably be our starting Guard again.

Even though Center isn't as big of a need as LT its still a weakness on the team. Garza just isn't that good and Koppen would be our best or second best linemen. This line needs upgrade where ever they can get it except RT.

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I think we need to sign Dan Koppen and signing Cooley would be a luxury I think we could afford

I don't have a problem with Cooley, but Koppen is a Center. I think that our interior line is not the most pressing need. If Webb starts at LT, Williams will probably be our starting Guard again.

Even though Center isn't as big of a need as LT its still a weakness on the team. Garza just isn't that good and Koppen would be our best or second best linemen. This line needs upgrade where ever they can get it except RT.

I agree that the O-Line is our weak link, but it's only so much money to go around. Spending money to replace Garza is not the way to go, IMHO. Garza may not be the best Center in the league, but he sure as hell is not the worst.

You have to take into consideration that Garza is the Line leader & Cutler is used to his snapping. If we change Centers right now, Cutler would have to get comfortable with the new guy & a new line leader would have to be implemented a couple days before the first official game of the season.

If a better LT becomes available, I will be with you 100%.

[patryk7754]

I agree that the O-Line is our weak link, but it's only so much money to go around. Spending money to replace Garza is not the way to go, IMHO. Garza may not be the best Center in the league, but he sure as hell is not the worst.

You have to take into consideration that Garza is the Line leader & Cutler is used to his snapping. If we change Centers right now, Cutler would have to get comfortable with the new guy & a new line leader would have to be implemented a couple days before the first official game of the season.

If a better LT becomes available, I will be with you 100%.

You're right about the C to QB chemistry I didnt think of that.

[DJhitek]

That Rodriguez pick has so much bust potential. I never liked the idea of a 4th rounder for a gadget player.

A fourth rounder? He is a TE and will create mismatches if he developes right. But if he does bust out, it's a fourth rounder, not a second rounder.

4th rounders are very valuable, with lots of good players available that can be expected to have a good shot to make the team.

When players at need positions like Bobby Massie are available, Rodriguez as a gamble can bust. Perhaps we can engage in a semantic discussion about Rodriguez's draft stock and have fun with that. While we can quibble about the semantic definition of bust, if he doesn't pan out it was possibly a foolish choice. He was a lux pick with real needs to fill and higher rated players avail at the need positions.

I didn't see this until now, but what exactly should we have drafted at that spot that makes the pick so important in hindsight? Most of the O/L drafted this year have struggled and the ones entrenched as starters are not because of stellar play.

Besides, are we that convinced Kellen Davis is the answer?

[DJhitek]

Both Winslow and Cooley are done IMO, they can't separate and were never more then below-average run blockers. I'd rather stand pat and go with Davis and Rodriguez.

[patryk7754]

At this point we should just wait and draft jake stoneburner