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It's ironic to be coming off a superbowl appearance and having the fanbase feel hopeless.

I feel pretty good about Griese. I don't feel good about our offensive line, WRs, RB, or defense (when up to 5-7 opening day starters may be out).

dougthonus wrote:It's ironic to be coming off a superbowl appearance and having the fanbase feel hopeless.

I feel pretty good about Griese. I don't feel good about our offensive line, WRs, RB, or defense (when up to 5-7 opening day starters may be out).

It really seems like the trend for the last few years(I bet Seattle felt the same when they lost Hasselback and Alexander)

dougthonus wrote:It's ironic to be coming off a superbowl appearance and having the fanbase feel hopeless.

I feel pretty good about Griese. I don't feel good about our offensive line, WRs, RB, or defense (when up to 5-7 opening day starters may be out).

i too feel good about griese. the o-line is a question, and the defense is decimated by injuries.

the receivers though are fine, especially if they have an nfl qb throwing to them. also it is important to get hester and bradley on the field. berrian is a budding star.

benson will be a great back. people are down on him, but just wait until teams arent daring the qb to beat them with 8 and 9 man fronts as they did with a high school qb throwing to them in grossman. mark it down, he will show everyone that he is an upper echelon back.

the receivers though are fine, especially if they have an nfl qb throwing to them. also it is important to get hester and bradley on the field. berrian is a budding star.

I don't like our WRs. Hester hasn't proven he can do anything at WR, Bradley hasn't proven he can do anything and has at least 2 ACL tears in his career so I'm really doubtful of his current level of explosiveness. Berrian has potential, but he dropped 3 balls last week when he was wide open at times where it could have made a huge difference in the game. Muhammad is just past his prime and can no longer get separation. I think Berrian is a quality #2 WR, but he has to be the #1, because Muhammad isn't even a quality #2 anymore and no one else has proven they're good enough to even play as a #3.

benson will be a great back. people are down on him, but just wait until teams arent daring the qb to beat them with 8 and 9 man fronts as they did with a high school qb throwing to them in grossman. mark it down, he will show everyone that he is an upper echelon back.

We'll see. I've never liked Benson, but I agree that he hasn't had a real fair shot this year with the line and passing game being awful.

dougthonus wrote:I don't like our WRs. Hester hasn't proven he can do anything at WR, Bradley hasn't proven he can do anything and has at least 2 ACL tears in his career so I'm really doubtful of his current level of explosiveness. Berrian has potential, but he dropped 3 balls last week when he was wide open at times where it could have made a huge difference in the game. Muhammad is just past his prime and can no longer get separation. I think Berrian is a quality #2 WR, but he has to be the #1, because Muhammad isn't even a quality #2 anymore and no one else has proven they're good enough to even play as a #3.

We'll see. I've never liked Benson, but I agree that he hasn't had a real fair shot this year with the line and passing game being awful.

I completely agree with this

BB is a #2 receiver
Moose is a luxury #3, and a weak #2

For example Whosyourmomma would be number 1 on our team and Chris Henry would be #2, ahead of Moose.


Also, Benson needs more attempts and some rhythm with the running game.

qb isn't the whole problem, changing it won't improve our offense, no matter who right now.

Darth Celtic wrote:qb isn't the whole problem, changing it won't improve our offense, no matter who right now.

Agreed. Our offensive line is horrible. Our play calling and game strategy is horrible.

But now that we might be on a spiral down we might as well know if Orton can be our QB of the future.

Any takers on trying out Orton now?

I would take Orton but I don't feel we should give up on Griese yet. I would kill to get rid of Ron Turner thouhg. He's just...I dont' know. I hadvn't seen anything from him as a play caller that has helped this team at all. Today, I felt we should of tried to run the ball more, but instead we passed so goddamn much. I don't know.

I feel now we aren't as sure to win every week and I defintetly don't think we can beat the Packers.

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Season's not over yet. It will be the game we switch to Orton. I'd give Griese at least one more start. The offense was able to move the ball well today and at least get first downs. Griese made some bad mistakes, but I'm willing to give him 1-2 more weeks to see if it's just rust.

If the Bears drop the next 2 games and Griese plays poorly then I'd consider trying Orton.

dougthonus wrote:Season's not over yet. It will be the game we switch to Orton. I'd give Griese at least one more start. The offense was able to move the ball well today and at least get first downs. Griese made some bad mistakes, but I'm willing to give him 1-2 more weeks to see if it's just rust.

If the Bears drop the next 2 games and Griese plays poorly then I'd consider trying Orton.

Trouble is if Griese plays like he did today we will be 1-5 and the season will be over. The only thing Griese showed me today was why Lovie never wanted to bench Rex. This was against a pitful lion defense and the story of the game was how great they were playing. Just think how bad he is going to look against a half way decent defense. I've seen enough of Griese I'd cut him tonight............

Umm, I think he deserves more then one game? Grossman had 10 or so terrible games before he was benched.

Anyways, I think if you guys don't like Griese you will despise Orton.

dougthonus wrote:

the receivers though are fine, especially if they have an nfl qb throwing to them. also it is important to get hester and bradley on the field. berrian is a budding star.

I don't like our WRs. Hester hasn't proven he can do anything at WR, Bradley hasn't proven he can do anything and has at least 2 ACL tears in his career so I'm really doubtful of his current level of explosiveness. Berrian has potential, but he dropped 3 balls last week when he was wide open at times where it could have made a huge difference in the game. Muhammad is just past his prime and can no longer get separation. I think Berrian is a quality #2 WR, but he has to be the #1, because Muhammad isn't even a quality #2 anymore and no one else has proven they're good enough to even play as a #3.

benson will be a great back. people are down on him, but just wait until teams arent daring the qb to beat them with 8 and 9 man fronts as they did with a high school qb throwing to them in grossman. mark it down, he will show everyone that he is an upper echelon back.

We'll see. I've never liked Benson, but I agree that he hasn't had a real fair shot this year with the line and passing game being awful.

I didn't know that Hester even has gotten a shot. They use him as nothing more than a decoy.