RedBulls23 wrote:If they didn't get those two fluke wins against the Steelers and the Panthers, they could have had the 3rd pick.
Oh well. LB/pass rusher or oline (tackle) might be the right pick at 8.
Yup...cant get that out of my head...seriously
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RedBulls23 wrote:If they didn't get those two fluke wins against the Steelers and the Panthers, they could have had the 3rd pick.
Oh well. LB/pass rusher or oline (tackle) might be the right pick at 8.
Red Larrivee wrote:City of Trees wrote:Ridley is very polished but the Bears would be foolish to draft him or any other WR at #8. The value just isnt there. OL/ DE/ and Edge positions are tiers above WR at #8. Hell even MLB has more value.
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I agree. This is why FA is the most likely route to add weapons. We shouldn't reach on a WR in a weak receiving class. Ridley at 8 doesn't seem warranted.
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RedBulls23 wrote:Wonder if the Bills would be interested in trading both their 1sts for the 8th pick?
Guess it would depend on a QB being on the board that they are interested in.
Axxo wrote:RedBulls23 wrote:Wonder if the Bills would be interested in trading both their 1sts for the 8th pick?
Guess it would depend on a QB being on the board that they are interested in.
No telling how many QBs would go at this point, but if Bradley Chubb or the aforementioned Safteys fall to 8 the Bears would have to be crazy to pass them up by trading back to 21 and 22.
Axxo wrote:RedBulls23 wrote:Wonder if the Bills would be interested in trading both their 1sts for the 8th pick?
Guess it would depend on a QB being on the board that they are interested in.
No telling how many QBs would go at this point, but if Bradley Chubb or the aforementioned Safteys fall to 8 the Bears would have to be crazy to pass them up by trading back to 21 and 22.
chitownsports4ever wrote:Axxo wrote:RedBulls23 wrote:Wonder if the Bills would be interested in trading both their 1sts for the 8th pick?
Guess it would depend on a QB being on the board that they are interested in.
No telling how many QBs would go at this point, but if Bradley Chubb or the aforementioned Safteys fall to 8 the Bears would have to be crazy to pass them up by trading back to 21 and 22.
Its Chubbs or trade down but this all depends on what happens with Fuller via free agency a full 6 weeks before the draft. If we can lock fuller up I think we extend Prince on a bargain long term deal and then are looking at the trade down .
Axxo wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:Axxo wrote:No telling how many QBs would go at this point, but if Bradley Chubb or the aforementioned Safteys fall to 8 the Bears would have to be crazy to pass them up by trading back to 21 and 22.
Its Chubbs or trade down but this all depends on what happens with Fuller via free agency a full 6 weeks before the draft. If we can lock fuller up I think we extend Prince on a bargain long term deal and then are looking at the trade down .
According to Hub Arkush, Fitzpatrick can play anywhere in the 2ndary. Nice toy for Fange and great value at 8 plus another Saftey and a Corner is a need. You can supply both spots with talent and not over pay for a mediocre guy or someone with questionable commitment.
chitownsports4ever wrote:Axxo wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:
Its Chubbs or trade down but this all depends on what happens with Fuller via free agency a full 6 weeks before the draft. If we can lock fuller up I think we extend Prince on a bargain long term deal and then are looking at the trade down .
According to Hub Arkush, Fitzpatrick can play anywhere in the 2ndary. Nice toy for Fange and great value at 8 plus another Saftey and a Corner is a need. You can supply both spots with talent and not over pay for a mediocre guy or someone with questionable commitment.
the problem is that we have already committed too many draft resources to the secondary as is under Pace . It would be a sexy pick but considering the free agent market and since it comes before the draft you have to use that cap space on filling out that secondary
Pass rusher , Oline, and wr should be the priority coming out of the draft with DB,WR,and Oline being the priority in free agency.
I say this because the bears need at least 2 pass rushers out of this draft so if we could somehow get Chubbs in the first and one of those Clemson linebackers in the second or even 3rd I would ecstatic .
Axxo wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:Axxo wrote:According to Hub Arkush, Fitzpatrick can play anywhere in the 2ndary. Nice toy for Fange and great value at 8 plus another Saftey and a Corner is a need. You can supply both spots with talent and not over pay for a mediocre guy or someone with questionable commitment.
the problem is that we have already committed too many draft resources to the secondary as is under Pace . It would be a sexy pick but considering the free agent market and since it comes before the draft you have to use that cap space on filling out that secondary
Pass rusher , Oline, and wr should be the priority coming out of the draft with DB,WR,and Oline being the priority in free agency.
I say this because the bears need at least 2 pass rushers out of this draft so if we could somehow get Chubbs in the first and one of those Clemson linebackers in the second or even 3rd I would ecstatic .
Agree on need for edge rushers, and understand the Oline i.e. RT, OG and of course the elusive WR. Bears also need a TE. Personally I wouldn't look for a rookie WR unless it was a great value pick (great player drops in draft due to overvaluing of other positions etc). Bears do not need another guy who doesn't know how to run routes. The conventional wisdom is take the best talent available. If the need is there at 8 and is the best talent available take him, if its just the best talent take him anyway. You can always shuffle the deck somewhere else. Make the improvements wherever you can. For example we already have Jordan Howard. If Sequon Barkley fell to the 8th pick the Bears would be nuts to pass him up just b/c they don't have a need there. You take that guy. Even more so with Fitzpatrick since the Bears do need to fill DB.
chitownsports4ever wrote:Axxo wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:
the problem is that we have already committed too many draft resources to the secondary as is under Pace . It would be a sexy pick but considering the free agent market and since it comes before the draft you have to use that cap space on filling out that secondary
Pass rusher , Oline, and wr should be the priority coming out of the draft with DB,WR,and Oline being the priority in free agency.
I say this because the bears need at least 2 pass rushers out of this draft so if we could somehow get Chubbs in the first and one of those Clemson linebackers in the second or even 3rd I would ecstatic .
Agree on need for edge rushers, and understand the Oline i.e. RT, OG and of course the elusive WR. Bears also need a TE. Personally I wouldn't look for a rookie WR unless it was a great value pick (great player drops in draft due to overvaluing of other positions etc). Bears do not need another guy who doesn't know how to run routes. The conventional wisdom is take the best talent available. If the need is there at 8 and is the best talent available take him, if its just the best talent take him anyway. You can always shuffle the deck somewhere else. Make the improvements wherever you can. For example we already have Jordan Howard. If Sequon Barkley fell to the 8th pick the Bears would be nuts to pass him up just b/c they don't have a need there. You take that guy. Even more so with Fitzpatrick since the Bears do need to fill DB.
If Barkley fell to 8th the Bears would be trading someone by the end of the 1st rd .
You have to look at the overall picture and decide where to spend the assets . You have Johnson and Butler available via free agency as well as our own DB free agents but there are no pass rushers available in free agency so you cant go into free agency and pass on all those Dbs to use your only real means of getting a pass rusher on a DB in the draft .
The Bears can buy top shelf Dbs this year but they cant buy a pass rush and Fitzpatrick would certainly fill a need but we can fill that need elsewhere. Free agency comes so far in advance of the draft would really pass on those guys in hopes that Fitzpatric falls to you and then still need a pass rush ?
RedBulls23 wrote:Axxo wrote:RedBulls23 wrote:Wonder if the Bills would be interested in trading both their 1sts for the 8th pick?
Guess it would depend on a QB being on the board that they are interested in.
No telling how many QBs would go at this point, but if Bradley Chubb or the aforementioned Safteys fall to 8 the Bears would have to be crazy to pass them up by trading back to 21 and 22.
That's a fair point
CjayC wrote:Wtch out for Marcus Davenport , edge from UTSA. Small school guy, but a lot like Khalil Mack the tape is him consistently dominating, and he's still raw from a technical aspect. He's creeping into Top 15 discussion, might be Top 10 with a good Senior Bowl and combine.