PG -Bears/Packers - pass the cheese please

Post #1 » by **emperorjones** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:46 am

Ugh. Defense cams to play

ChicagoStrong · Post #2 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:47 am

The offensive line.

patryk7754 · Post #3 » by **patryk7754** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:52 am

1. O-line needs to be replaced.
2. Cutler needs to work on decision making.
3. I think the Bears need to use a different defense when trying to come back. Its the perfect defense to run out the clock against.

Susan · Post #4 » by **Susan** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:53 am

The offensive line isn't THAT bad. The thing is, they're not that good either. Putting them in a "THROW THROW THROW" offense without setting up the run is just asking for disaster.

These sacks were part bad gameplaning, part bad line play, part Cutler not being there today and part the WRs not getting open. They're going to adjust that gameplan and learn to impose their will upon other teams.

patryk7754 · Post #5 » by **patryk7754** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:59 am

Susan wrote:The offensive line isn't THAT bad. The thing is, they're not that good either. Putting them in a "THROW THROW THROW" offense without setting up the run is just asking for disaster.

When your QB is more aggressive than your LT you have a huge problem. These guys need to drop their nuts and block

Bulls69 · Post #6 » by **Bulls69** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:01 am

Damn let's face Jay is a baby once the heat get to him he will bit** out just tired of this same old int game he plays.

Susan · Post #7 » by **Susan** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:03 am

They need to not try and play like the NE Patriots. Forte and Bush are elite running backs. They're going to get yards when you hand them the ball. There's no need to put such a burden on the line, Jay and the WR core. Put them in a spot to establish themselves by getting our RBs the ball.

Bulls69 · Post #8 » by **Bulls69** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:04 am

patryk7754 wrote:
Susan wrote:The offensive line isn't THAT bad. The thing is, they're not that good either. Putting them in a "THROW THROW THROW" offense without setting up the run is just asking for disaster.

When your QB is more aggressive than your LT you have a huge problem. These guys need to drop their nuts and block

It's not out LT fault he can't play the Bears knew that for awhile now but yet the Bears front office does not address so the blame falls in the lap of our Front office.

LobosJordan · Post #9 » by **LobosJordan** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:15 am

I thought the sole reason we got rid of Olsen was because we wanted a TE who could block better? Well, supposedly Davis does, yet almost half the time he isn't even blocking. If we have a blocking TE, use his ass to block. Otherwise we should have kept Olsen.

Our O-Line struggles against aggressive defenses like the Packers, Giants, and Lions. Which just so happen to be teams we will have to beat to go to the super bowl.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #10 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:18 am

Cutler really needs to stop making those dumb passes into double coverage.

Post #11 » by **chitownsports4ever** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:22 am

The Bears lack leadership and composure on the offensive side of the ball.

Its a 3-0 game your defense is playing great why are you losing your cool ?

the goal is not make it to sportscenter highlights but to win the game .

Every game is different and you must adapt to the conditions of every game if its 3-0 and your defense is playing lights out well if we have to win on field goals thats what we will do . You cant be so intent on the big play that if you cant get it you lose sight of your goal .

There was a time when the bears wouldve grinded this game out and won 15-13 its as though our 29 yr old QB is against this sort of strategy .

No turnovers backed by a great defense run the ball check it down be patient and take your shots when they present themselves .

I recall when the Packers won the SB that regular season they won games in all types of ways . They blew out Dallas 45-7 but beat us 10-3 and the jets 9-0 . Its all about understanding that the goal is simply to win the game regardless of how its won . Jay just cannot seem to handle the pressure of these grind it out games .

northbrookrich · Post #12 » by **northbrookrich** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:28 am

Every analyst out there says the Bears need to address their offensive line.

The Bears choose not to address their offensive line.

The offense falls apart because of a sub-par offensive line.

This isn't rocket science, fellas.

Cutler will get hurt. Marshall will get frustrated. And this will be another lost season.

They may be good enough to sneak into the playoffs. I just don't know how you can expect to beat the elite with subpar offensive and defensive lines.

patryk7754 · Post #13 » by **patryk7754** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:43 am

Play calling was an issue as well. Forte was ballin before he got hurt and we didnt even use him that much. Bush was running well but we didnt run him that much. Bears need to realize that they're not going anywhere with this o-line.

patryk7754 · Post #14 » by **patryk7754** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:46 am

I think the best offense for the Bears would be a 49ers type offense until the Bears realize Webb is replaceable with 6 inch twig

Post #15 » by **alucryts** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:20 am

I really felt like the team was 2 steps behind the Packers all night. It's like the Packers had game tape and game planned for us while we were going in blind. That's what I felt like all night. Every move we had the Packers were 2 steps ahead.

Cutler isn't a leader of an offense, he's a talented vocal player in someone else's system.

heir_jordan22 · Post #16 » by **heir_jordan22** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:59 am

patryk7754 wrote:I think the best offense for the Bears would be a 49ers type offense until the Bears realize Webb is replaceable with 6 inch twig

The gameplan definitely had me scratching my head. Yes, Cutler lost his cool early. But the coaches should have been calling more runs anyway because it was a close game the entire first half. No need for a shoot out mentality in when you're down 3-0 half way through the second quarter. Tice needs to play more Madden.

bearadonisdna · Post #17 » by **bearadonisdna** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:16 am

Cutler wasnt on the field when the fake fg happened.

When Bush was running well, the Bears went to the well too many times and missed out some primo play action opportunities.

Forte got injured. Maybe we werent ready for that, but im not at all discouraged cuz i think this Bears team is really good.

I liked how Cutler stood up to the Packers cheap shot artist(Woodson).

Post #18 » by **fleet** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:46 am

why is this whole passing offense basically Jay visualize a target and chuck it way down the field right at (theoretically) a guy. Where are the slants, screens, timing routes and sidelines passes? And so much for the rollout passes. I gotta believe the lack of pass blocking ability has caused lots of play calling limitations.

Post #19 » by **fleet** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:55 am

alucryts wrote:I really felt like the team was 2 steps behind the Packers all night. It's like the Packers had game tape and game planned for us while we were going in blind. That's what I felt like all night. Every move we had the Packers were 2 steps ahead.

Cutler isn't a leader of an offense, he's a talented vocal player in someone else's system.

I think Cutler resents it when he doesn't have time to make his reads. And he is easily frustrated and begins to stop trying to scan the field. Just begins to stare down receivers.

If he had pass blocking his attitude would be better. He's not a guy to patiently rebuild a team.

Post #20 » by **chitownsports4ever** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:13 pm

fleet wrote:
alucryts wrote:I really felt like the team was 2 steps behind the Packers all night. It's like the Packers had game tape and game planned for us while we were going in blind. That's what I felt like all night. Every move we had the Packers were 2 steps ahead.

Cutler isn't a leader of an offense, he's a talented vocal player in someone else's system.

I think Cutler resents it when he doesn't have time to make his reads. And he is easily frustrated and begins to stop trying to scan the field. Just begins to stare down receivers.

If he had pass blocking his attitude would be better. He's not a guy to patiently rebuild a team.

True dat Fleet but we got to Rodgers as well and what we saw was a tale of two Qbs . Rodgers when our rush was getting to him settled down and simply managed the game while jay seemed intent on forcing it down the field with little time . If Jay could manage the game we win this on Gould field goals 15-13

You mentioned slants,timing patterns, sideline passes and they were not existent . I dont recall not one quick slant which is surprising considering how much they brought pressure . For as much as jay talked about our receivers beating the press coverage so bring it on they simply couldnt do it . Marshall could but they had a safety sitting on him all night and basically took Bennett and Hester totally out of the picture underneath .

How many games have we seen the bears win with lessor Qbs simply because they understood to not turn it over and to play the field position game ?

"It's the same old Jay," Charles Woodson told ESPN's Rachel Nichols after the game. "We just need to be in position. Jay will throw us the ball."

Teams have a book on jay and it seems to be if you get him rattled he will lose it and throw some picks . Hes got to show some better composure you cant be losing it in the first half of one score games . Last week they kept him clean and he had a great game but a couple of bad plays and he loses it . A Qb cannot be that bi polar from game to game or your linemen is gonna be looking over there shoulder the whole season .

Do you remember his reaction to the Marshall td pass drop ? Why not show the same pat on the head and encouragement when its a one score game for Webb ?