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Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:54 am
by Jake0890
NFL - Bears trade OT Gabe Carimi (1st-round draft selection in 2011) to Bucs for 6th-round draft pick, sources confirm to ESPN
I'm speechless.
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Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:12 am
by Chaomino
No first rounders from Angelos Era on the team.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:52 am
by fleet
Carimi one of those....we can afford to launch guys, and also send a message with this move at the same time. Trestman clearly expects his people to be on the same page, and if not, see ya. And everybody else can figure it out. I love those kinds of moves from a good staff.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:52 am
by Badbeats
At this point I would be thrilled to trade our #1 pick for a player every year. We got Marshall for a 3rd. I would be more than happy to get a talented 24-27 year old every year, that we know will actually be a good player.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:49 am
by heir_jordan22
I can't believe we were able to get a sixth round pick for a player who has been crap or injured for his first two years. Emery doesn't stop impressing me.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:43 pm
by emperorjones
He didn't want to be here.
I guess he was trying to force their hand by not showing up to OTAs. this is actually a great move as it takes $1.4m off the salary cap and stops us from taking the cap hit if we had cut him- which is exactly where this was headed.
Nice move.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:32 pm
by fleet
heir_jordan22 wrote:I can't believe we were able to get a sixth round pick for a player who has been crap or injured for his first two years. Emery doesn't stop impressing me.
assuming good health on the line, he seems to have been a guy that gets cut before or right after training camp before the season starts.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:33 pm
by fleet
emperorjones wrote:He didn't want to be here.
I guess he was trying to force their hand by not showing up to OTAs. this is actually a great move as it takes $1.4m off the salary cap and stops us from taking the cap hit if we had cut him- which is exactly where this was headed.
Nice move.
money that figures to be spent too. Amazingly, O-Line is not a need.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:25 am
by Jake0890
I don't know how you guys can be satisfied with this. We traded our first round pick of only two years ago for a sixth rounder. That's the best we could get for him, but what a horrible pick in the first place..
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:49 am
by heir_jordan22
We're satisfied because Emery continues to swiftly pick up Angelo's mess, while dumping $1.4M in a team and somehow getting a draft pick in return.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:18 pm
by Jake0890
heir_jordan22 wrote:We're satisfied because Emery continues to swiftly pick up Angelo's mess, while dumping $1.4M in a team and somehow getting a draft pick in return.
Best out of a bad situation, I guess...
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:05 pm
by BR0D1E86
Chaomino wrote:No first rounders from Angelos Era on the team.
The highest Angelo pick currently on the team is Peanut.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:07 am
by jl342323
carimi made it easy for emery.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:57 am
by BIGGIEsmalls 23
I somewhat agree with Jake on this one. I understand the positive of creating cap room, but for crying out loud....we just spent a 1st round pick on him only 2 years ago.
I would have liked to have at least seen a 3rd round pick for him.
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:39 pm
by emperorjones
What went wrong with Gabe Carimi?
CHICAGO -- Gabe Carimi would have been the big story at Bears minicamp Tuesday if he had still been a Bear. Instead, he was the big story at Bucs minicamp.
It would be easy to explain away Gabe Carimi's short and disappointing Bears career by saying he was not good enough.
That would be oversimplifying the matter, however. The kind of promise he showed as a rookie does not just evaporate like morning dew.
There were a number of steps, or missteps, that led to the first round pick becoming a former Bear.
This is how it happened.
In his second NFL game, Sept. 18, 2011, Carimi suffered an unusual injury.
He dislocated his right knee, which previously had been dislocated, and he suffered anterior cruciate damage.
Treating it would not be routine. One source said there were only three similar cases in the previous 15 years in the league.
Carimi sought numerous opinions, and his father, who is a doctor, also was involved in the process. Doctors differed on how to treat it.
Carimi, who is intelligent and unwilling to let others chart his future, eventually opted to have the Phoenix Suns orthopedist perform surgery.
Before that he tried to come back without surgery and practiced Nov. 2, but it was clear he was not himself. On Nov. 11, nearly eight weeks after the injury, he had the surgery. On Nov. 18, he was put on injured reserve. Then, he needed another surgery Dec. 27.
Early last season, Carimi still wasn't moving well, and he got off to a poor
start.
That he didn't have the final surgery until December was not a help. Months later, he was favoring his leg and not pushing off with power. His performance against the 49ers last November was atrocious.
Carimi eventually would recover from the injury, but his Bears career never would.
Carimi lost weight in an attempt to put less stress on his knee, and in the process he lost strength.
He went from about 315 pounds to about 300 pounds last offseason. Even after he started to move well around halfway through the 2012 season, he still was missing the strength that had been one of his defining traits.
His body changed. In addition to being weaker in his lower body, he also appeared weaker in his upper body, according to NFL talent evaluators. At 6-foot-7, Carimi has a long torso, and it was difficult for him to get a solid anchor and good leverage with less mass.
Carimi failed to take advantage of a chance to prove himself to a new coaching staff this spring.
He showed up for Marc Trestman's first minicamp with no lingering knee problem but still at a lighter weight. He did not excite anyone with his performance or his strength.
And then he disappeared for the strength program and organized team activities.
In his absence, general manager Phil Emery, who was with the Chiefs when the Bears drafted Carimi, loaded up on offensive linemen. He signed free agents Jermon Bushrod, Matt Slauson and Eben Britton. He re-signed Jonathan Scott. And he drafted Kyle Long and Jordan Mills.
If Carimi had not been traded, he probably would have been far down the Bears' depth chart, behind Long, Slauson, Mills and James Brown at guard. Or behind Bushrod, J'Marcus Webb, Scott and maybe Mills at tackle.
The Bears weren't trying to punish Carimi with the trade as much as they were protecting themselves financially.
If the Bears brought him to training camp and then cut him, Carimi would have taken up $1.016 million in cash and cap space. Trading him might have enabled them to sign defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis on Tuesday......
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_23 ... source=rss
Re: Gabe Carimi Traded for 6th Round Pick
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:37 pm
by BIGGIEsmalls 23
Thanks for that article, Emp.
Good read.