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The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:36 am
by emperorjones
The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....[Fill in the blank with your trade]

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Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:37 am
by emperorjones
The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Bears trade their 1st for Cleveland's 1st and Cleveland's 2 third round picks.

works on the trade value chart.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:42 pm
by patryk7754
Seeing how deep this draft is I would expect a trade down. I read an article (fanside i think) that the bears might add a third. If we do the Cleveland deal I doubt we could get both 3rds.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:16 pm
by emperorjones
If we trade that far down in the first round we certainly would need both 3rd round picks from a value standpoint . 14th to 26th is a very big drop. From the trade chart that would work. In reality, who knows.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:40 pm
by patryk7754
emperorjones wrote:If we trade that far down in the first round we certainly would need both 3rd round picks from a value standpoint . 14th to 26th is a very big drop. From the trade chart that would work. In reality, who knows.

Yea. I was thinking they had the 21st for some reason.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:41 pm
by patryk7754
We might trade up if we really want an obvious elite talent like Mack, dennard, or Donald

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:56 pm
by Friend_Of_Haley
Trading up in the second round to secure a falling prospect.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:49 pm
by BullHeaded
My ideal scenario would go something like this:
1. In the first three picks only one qb gets drafted and Jadeaveon Clowney falls to 4. Maybe we see a top 3 of Bortles, Watkins and Robinson?
2. Manziel looks like he is falling to 14.
3. Cleveland offers us the Indy pick at 26, their high second rounder (35 overall) and their third rounder (68 overall) for the 14th overall and our second rounder.

For the Bears: I think we're going to get a still very solid defensive player at 26... I don't see too much drop off from 14 to 26 in this draft, especially for a team that has a need at every defensive position. We also are trading up 15 spots in the second round and getting a second third rounder. With four solid picks in the first three rounds, we can really inject some talent into our defense. This would be a big win for us.

For the Browns: They are coming out of the draft with arguably the best defensive player in Clowney and the qb they covet... all they had to do was give up a third rounder and trade down 15 spots in the second. To bring home Clowney and Manziel, I have a hunch their GM will be the toast of Cleveland for that move.

This is a dream scenario.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:56 pm
by BullHeaded
BullHeaded wrote:My ideal scenario would go something like this:
1. In the first three picks only one qb gets drafted and Jadeaveon Clowney falls to 4. Maybe we see a top 3 of Bortles, Watkins and Robinson?
2. Manziel looks like he is falling to 14.
3. Cleveland offers us the Indy pick at 26, their high second rounder (35 overall) and their third rounder (68 overall) for the 14th overall and our second rounder.

For the Bears: I think we're going to get a still very solid defensive player at 26... I don't see too much drop off from 14 to 26 in this draft, especially for a team that has a need at every defensive position. We also are trading up 15 spots in the second round and getting a second third rounder. With four solid picks in the first three rounds, we can really inject some talent into our defense. This would be a big win for us.

For the Browns: They are coming out of the draft with arguably the best defensive player in Clowney and the qb they covet... all they had to do was give up a third rounder and trade down 15 spots in the second. To bring home Clowney and Manziel, I have a hunch their GM will be the toast of Cleveland for that move.

This is a dream scenario.


I just checked the trade-value chart... this is an even trade.

Cleveland gets 14 overall (1100 pts) + 50 overall (400 pts) = 1500 pts
Chicago gets 26 overall (700 pts) + 35 overall (550 pts) + 68 overall (250 pts) = 1500 pts

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2014 11:10 pm
by clancyphile
CLE Gets:
RB Michael Bush, 14 overall (1100), and 82 overall (180)

CHI gets:
26 overall (700), 35 overall (550), 71 overall (235), and 83 overall (175)

Cleveland needs a running back. Bush is surplus to the needs of the Bears, but he has been a proven commodity, and over the last two years, there's not been a lot of mileage.

The deal gives Da Bears a first-rounder, two second-rounders, and two third-rounders.

Draft:
1. Ra'shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
2A. Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
2B. Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
3A. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
3B. Ed Reynolds, FS, Stanford
4. Bryan Stork, C, Florida State
5. Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming
6A. James Wilder, Jr., RB/FB, Florida State
6B. Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU

Hageman and Tuitt improve the D-line, while Roberson and Jean-Baptiste provide depth at cornerback - and allow Da Bears to not only re-sign Peanut, but move him to safety. Reynolds provides depth at safety. Stork can be groomed to replace Garza. Smith is the developmental QB. Wilder Jr. can compete to back up Forte or to start at FB. Hoffman's a big WR and young. Could be a huge help in the red zone.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:16 pm
by emperorjones
clancyphile wrote:CLE Gets:
RB Michael Bush, 14 overall (1100), and 82 overall (180)

CHI gets:
26 overall (700), 35 overall (550), 71 overall (235), and 83 overall (175)

Cleveland needs a running back. Bush is surplus to the needs of the Bears, but he has been a proven commodity, and over the last two years, there's not been a lot of mileage.

The deal gives Da Bears a first-rounder, two second-rounders, and two third-rounders.


I'd love this deal, but it seems lopsided in points (Bears give up 1280 and get back 1660) I'd actually be ecstatic if we traded down to the 26th and got the 35th in return - but I doubt that happens.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2014 7:04 pm
by BullHeaded
emperorjones wrote:
clancyphile wrote:CLE Gets:
RB Michael Bush, 14 overall (1100), and 82 overall (180)

CHI gets:
26 overall (700), 35 overall (550), 71 overall (235), and 83 overall (175)

Cleveland needs a running back. Bush is surplus to the needs of the Bears, but he has been a proven commodity, and over the last two years, there's not been a lot of mileage.

The deal gives Da Bears a first-rounder, two second-rounders, and two third-rounders.


I'd love this deal, but it seems lopsided in points (Bears give up 1280 and get back 1660) I'd actually be ecstatic if we traded down to the 26th and got the 35th in return - but I doubt that happens.


Not to rehash the one I threw out there before, but if we added our second rounder (50) and they added their third rounder (68), the trade would be even steven. 14 + 50 = 26 + 35 + 68.

We would get an extra pick (68) plus move up 15 spots in the second round (from 50 to 35) in exchange for Cleveland moving up 12 spots in the first (26 to 14).

This works by the chart (1500 to 1500), but logistically depends on two things:

1. Cleveland being certain a QB they like will be available at 14, but not at 26. This would allow them to get a top-tier prospect at 4 without burning that pick on a qb.

2. Chicago liking defensive players available at 26 about as much as the defensive players available at 14.


For Cleveland, I could see either a scenario where Clowney falls to 4 and they cannot pass it up, or them wanting to get a guy like Manziel or Carr at 14 but give him a duo of receivers like Sammy Watkins and Josh Gordon to throw to (emulating our Alshon-Brandon tandem which worked out pretty damn well for Cutler and McCown).

For us, we have so many holes to fill and there are so many solid defensive prospects lumped into the same mid-first round tier, trading down to that spot seems like a perfect scenario.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2014 8:07 pm
by clancyphile
emperorjones wrote:
clancyphile wrote:CLE Gets:
RB Michael Bush, 14 overall (1100), and 82 overall (180)

CHI gets:
26 overall (700), 35 overall (550), 71 overall (235), and 83 overall (175)

Cleveland needs a running back. Bush is surplus to the needs of the Bears, but he has been a proven commodity, and over the last two years, there's not been a lot of mileage.

The deal gives Da Bears a first-rounder, two second-rounders, and two third-rounders.


I'd love this deal, but it seems lopsided in points (Bears give up 1280 and get back 1660) I'd actually be ecstatic if we traded down to the 26th and got the 35th in return - but I doubt that happens.


The 26 and 35 picks (1250) balance out with 14 and 82 (1280).

Cleveland gets Michael Bush in exchange for the 71 and 83 picks (the other 410 points).

Part of me is tempted to throw in Edgar Bennett to keep the 82 overall, to be honest.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2014 1:17 am
by City of Trees
My dream trade for the Bears:

Bears get
Luke Kuechly


Panthers get:
14th Overall
DJ Williams


Bears get the next Urlacher.

Panthers crack the top 14 with the flexibility to address a number of needs DB, WR, and OL

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2014 2:59 am
by patryk7754
City of Trees wrote:My dream trade for the Bears:

Bears get
Luke Kuechly


Panthers get:
14th Overall
DJ Williams


Bears get the next Urlacher.

Panthers crack the top 14 with the flexibility to address a number of needs DB, WR, and OL

What kind of trees are in this city? Absolutely terrible for the Panthers

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2014 6:07 am
by Friend_Of_Haley
Best deal is a trade up about 5-7 spots in the second to grab someone who's falling and we like. I think we can get two main contributors to our D, including a real impact guy at 14, but maybe not if we stay at 50.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2014 2:20 am
by heir_jordan22
BullHeaded wrote:
BullHeaded wrote:My ideal scenario would go something like this:
1. In the first three picks only one qb gets drafted and Jadeaveon Clowney falls to 4. Maybe we see a top 3 of Bortles, Watkins and Robinson?
2. Manziel looks like he is falling to 14.
3. Cleveland offers us the Indy pick at 26, their high second rounder (35 overall) and their third rounder (68 overall) for the 14th overall and our second rounder.

For the Bears: I think we're going to get a still very solid defensive player at 26... I don't see too much drop off from 14 to 26 in this draft, especially for a team that has a need at every defensive position. We also are trading up 15 spots in the second round and getting a second third rounder. With four solid picks in the first three rounds, we can really inject some talent into our defense. This would be a big win for us.

For the Browns: They are coming out of the draft with arguably the best defensive player in Clowney and the qb they covet... all they had to do was give up a third rounder and trade down 15 spots in the second. To bring home Clowney and Manziel, I have a hunch their GM will be the toast of Cleveland for that move.

This is a dream scenario.


I just checked the trade-value chart... this is an even trade.

Cleveland gets 14 overall (1100 pts) + 50 overall (400 pts) = 1500 pts
Chicago gets 26 overall (700 pts) + 35 overall (550 pts) + 68 overall (250 pts) = 1500 pts

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

This is the exact same thing I was thinking.

Then at 26 you can pick either Tuitt or Hageman who both have scheme versatility. At 35 take Bradley Roby. In the third round take top safety (Dixon, Buchannon, or Brooks) with 68, and either another DT or a RB with our third round pick.

Truitt
Roby
Dixon
Sims/Gaffney/Williams/McKinnon
DT Kelcy Quarles
Speed receiver (so many options)
QB or TE Colt Lyerla
Xavius Boyd (LB)


Signing Brian de la Puente puts us in a much better situation. If we sign Josh Freeman to be our backup, we're set.

Re: The best draft day deal the Bears can make is.....

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2014 2:39 am
by heir_jordan22
If we're not able to trade down then do

Donald, or Tuitt if he's not there
Dixon
Top CB (Phillip Gaines, Jayden Watkins or Walt Aikens)
Top RB
Kelcy Quarles
Xavius Boyd
Colt Lyerla or QB or WR