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Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:21 pm
by emperorjones
How does Emery grade out on his 3rd draft attempt?

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:45 pm
by RedBulls23
I give him an "A" for the first 5 rounds. The last day was okay. Taking the punter was weird and the QB won't likely be ready to play for another 1 or 2 and only has backup potential. I did like adding the oline guy in the end. Oline depth is always a good thing.

The reason I give him an A for the first 5 rounds is because he attacked each position of need, especially our poor run defense.

We will find out if these players pan out, but you got to like the potential of Ferguson and Sutton up front. I was originally underwhelmed by the Ferguson pick, but can't deny that the upside is there. Our new dline coach will have to put some work in for sure.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 2:42 pm
by molepharmer
A- Sports illustrated
B+ Bleacher Report
C Sporting News
B SB Nation

I'd give them a solid B. They filled some high priority needs. Whether those players pan out or not determines if the "B" goes to an "A" or a "C".

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:18 pm
by Cliff Levingston
A.

Was satisfied with the Fuller pick when it happened then more excited about it after reading up on the kid and hearing him talk. Cliff Levingston thinks he'll be a really good player at the least for us.

The DT picks were nice, not one but two. Considering Ratliff is temporary, Collins has never been special and Paea can't stay healthy, we needed two. Ego's got some upside and should be able to contribute as an early down run stuffer immediately while the Sutton pick could turn out to be amazing.

Carey won't knock your socks off as Forte's backup but he seems to be good fit for Trestman's offense, so that's nice. Then we go and trade up to address our biggest need on defense with Vereen and he appears to be a nice, solid prospect that could contribute right away possibly.

Picking a punter in the 6th was the only slightly questionable move, but if he's going to be our guy and he's going to be really damn good then why not? Fales looks to be a nice guy to develop into a solid backup in the Josh McCown mold and it never hurts to have a young OT with some athletic upside to develop as depth in Leno.

We addressed our needs in a pretty big way with some guys who both have good upside while being more than just workout warriors with some good college resumes to back it up.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:33 am
by blumeany
On paper, I give it an A. Addressed their needs and used the back end of the draft to pick up useful players instead of just loading up on lower-end defensive guys that might get cut anyway. Obviously, they still need to play and perform. IMHO though, Emery has done better than Angelo already. I still have hope for McClellin and Bostic, and Jeffrey, Long, and Mills have been great thus far. The guy sees issues and takes action the next off season to fix them -unlike Angelo, who would let problems fester forever.

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Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:29 pm
by BullHeaded
I gave it a B. But if I go by selection:

Fuller: A. Fuller was a great CB with a high upside and floor. I was secretly dreading we'd take Pryor or Clinton Dix because I thought they were both over-hyped... especially Clinton Dix. Fuller will replace Tillman next year but this year he gets the luxury of learning a few tricks from him. Between him and Jennings' extension... I think we're solid at CB for the long term.

Ferguson: B+. Fits a need for sure and has been rock solid against the run in the SEC. He is considered a project, but considering the fact that we brought in new assistant coaches on the DL, I think we invested in development team to get it done. The two coaches I'm hoping he spends extra time with are Paqualini and Joe Kim, the Tae Kwon Do grandmaster who has worked with 8 NFL teams since Bill Belichick introduced him into the league in 1992. Tamba Hali, among others, swears by him. Ego Ferguson has the raw talent and ability, if he's coachable too he'll be a monster. He'd be an "A" if he came in with the pass rush skills.

Sutton: A. For a third rounder, we got someone polished and accomplished. Also, I like that this mirrors the Long/Mills picks from last year when you pair him with Ferguson. I think it's great that he has a rookie partner in crime to grow with. They could be an outstanding tandem there over the next few years.

Carey: B-. Productive has hell and I'm hoping he could be the short yardage answer for the Bears offense which really struggled with the "and one" conversions. He gets a B- though because he is on the slow side (some have been successful despite that, but faster is better) and he has Tank Johnson character concerns.

Vareen: A-. I like everything about him except for the fact that he doesn't create turnovers. And I love that we got him in the fourth round. He could be a guy that gets us off the field on third down, but I don't think he's going to be the guy who makes that game changing play.

Fales: B+. Great back up qb candidate, but maybe we could have drafted someone with starter potential at another position. But he was a value in the 6th and we do need a back up qb.

O'Donnell: A. That's right, I'm giving the punter an "A". Hopefully a top notch punter can get us back the field position we lost when we let Hester, our top notch returner, go. We needed to improve our defense across the board... a great punter is a great way to game that.

Leno: Inc. I don't know enough about him to really grade it... but at this point in the draft you take guys who you think can make the team and add value.


Overall I think we completed the fixing of the DL and the CB positions for the near and long terms in this draft. That is a great accomplishment on its own. We also improved special teams big time with the punter and defensive talent and if Vereen becomes an NFL caliber starting safety... then this draft will be off the charts successful for fixing the secondary as well as the DL. Only time will tell.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:15 pm
by heir_jordan22
I really like what Emery did.

I'm disappointed that Hageman or Tuitt didn't fall to us, but Ferguson was by far the next best DLineman on the board outside of Nix, who really is strictly a 0-technique NT. I think Ferguson is a 2inch shorter version of Michael Brockers who went 14th to the Rams last year. Looked at the stats, combine and scouting reports for the two and they are basically identical so I guess the experts agree with me. That was just a much weaker draft. Brockers is pretty dominant right now btw.

Love the Fuller pick love the Sutton pick. Those speak for themselves.

I think Karey is was an excellent pick and he was probably next on Emery's board after Sims so he decided to pounce.

I really liked Exum and Dixon as our guys for FS. Exum is Fuller's teammate and just as talented but bigger. The difference in draft stock is from Exum's acl tear. I thought Dixon would be the guy after Exum was taken. Instead Emery went with a slightly smaller guy who is more athletic and has better coverage skills. All in all I'm surprisingly happy about the Vereen pick since he could turn out to be more versatile than Dixon. Just disappointed Exum didn't fall to us.

Fales has been my guy since last off season. He barely had a down year and went from a top 5 projection to falling to us all the way in the 6th.

Leno. Don't know much but he did have success in a pass happy offense and is supposedly extremely athletic. Kind of in the mold of Mills which was obviously a good pick, and I knew nothing about him either at the time.

The punter. Underwhelming but I'll give Emery the benefit of the doubt since we need one and the rest of the draft was so damn good.

The fact that we were able to get Christian Jones, a guy that I specifically said I want to use a fourth rounder on, in FA is absolutely amazing. If Bostic beats out Williams for the starting MLB spot then DJ will get cut and the youth movement will begin. Plus Emery got the best gadget player of the class in Lynch.

I give this class an A- with the possibility of A+ if the punter becomes a pro bowler lol

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:37 pm
by fleet
David Haugh ‏@DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:39 am
by johnnyvann840
fleet wrote:
David Haugh ‏@DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.


I think he does too. Sutton was a beast and a 1st round talent a year ago. He slipped a little last year when he put on 20 lbs. .., but he showed what he can do last season when he played at the right weight. He says he's back at 290 down from 310 so he knows what he needs to do. He can play the 3 tech at 290.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:31 am
by RedBulls23
fleet wrote:
David Haugh ‏@DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.

I think David haugh is the only person in town that cares what Angelo thinks.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:13 am
by clancyphile
Overall, a B.

Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+

2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+

3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A

4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C

4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-

6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-

6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B

7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-

Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...

The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:54 pm
by fleet
Red-Bulls83 wrote:
fleet wrote:
David Haugh ‏@DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.

I think David haugh is the only person in town that cares what Angelo thinks.

yeah I know, but I wasn't thinking about a bunch more ceiling with Sutton, because he is already good. So it is a little interesting

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:00 pm
by heir_jordan22
[quote="clancyphile"]Overall, a B.

Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+

2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+

3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A

4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C

4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-

6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-

6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B

7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-

Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...

The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.[/quote]
This is delusional? D+ for Ferguson even though he was more productive than his predecessor at LSU, Brockers, who is very successful in STL and was selected 14th overall. Saying you want McCullers when he is STRICTLY a 3-4 NT who (he has no mobility!). Saying that Jordan Lynch... JORDAN LYNCH... Is a better pro Qb prospect than a guy who is one of the top guys in every passing statistic and known for his accuracy while Lynch can barely hit the side of a barn. And sure Logan Thomas is big and athletic but he also is very erratic with his accuracy.

And to say that we should've trade Bennett for a third rounder. Are you in drugs???? Seriously. After free agency, after the draft, after their ONLY receiver is suspended for the year, and after UDFA...that's when Bennett was signed. By one of the worst offenses in the league. And we could've gotten assets for him.?? Wow. I bet we could get a first rounder for Shea McClellin right now too.

And is Carey good enough for five carries a game? Every expert has him as a top five RB in the class. He slid because of character concerns. But you know something about him that nobody else does I guess. Maybe he's afraid of real grass and that'll keep him off the field.

So much delusion in your post I'm starting to think you wanted to use green font.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:13 pm
by RedBulls23
clancyphile wrote:Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...

The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.

In what world is Earl Bennett worth a 3rd round pick, especially at his contract? Emery tried to trade him and found no takers. It's ridiculous to say Emery drop the ball on some wayward made up scenerio that had no chance of happening.

I mean Stevie Johnson was traded for a 4th round pick and he's much better than Earl Bennett.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:09 pm
by clancyphile
heir_jordan22 wrote:This is delusional? D+ for Ferguson even though he was more productive than his predecessor at LSU, Brockers, who is very successful in STL and was selected 14th overall. Saying you want McCullers when he is STRICTLY a 3-4 NT who (he has no mobility!). Saying that Jordan Lynch... JORDAN LYNCH... Is a better pro Qb prospect than a guy who is one of the top guys in every passing statistic and known for his accuracy while Lynch can barely hit the side of a barn. And sure Logan Thomas is big and athletic but he also is very erratic with his accuracy.

And to say that we should've trade Bennett for a third rounder. Are you in drugs???? Seriously. After free agency, after the draft, after their ONLY receiver is suspended for the year, and after UDFA...that's when Bennett was signed. By one of the worst offenses in the league. And we could've gotten assets for him.?? Wow. I bet we could get a first rounder for Shea McClellin right now too.

And is Carey good enough for five carries a game? Every expert has him as a top five RB in the class. He slid because of character concerns. But you know something about him that nobody else does I guess. Maybe he's afraid of real grass and that'll keep him off the field.

So much delusion in your post I'm starting to think you wanted to use green font.


I'd rather have tried to trade Bennett and Bush as opposed to just releasing them outright. But that's just my opinion.

As for the other comments:
McCullers v. Ferguson: The biggest problem the D had last year was the inability to stop the run. To put it bluntly, McCullers was arguably the best run-stuffing DT in the draft - almost a perfect fit for what the Bears needed to address the inability to stop the run. Per the CBS Sports scouting report, McCullers played both the 0 and 3 techniques. Given the run defense's trouble, Sutton in the second and McCullers in the third was probably a better draft idea than Ferguson/Sutton. Finally, his size (6'7", 352 pounds) can't be coached. And yeah, I LIKED the notion of having a nearly immovable mountain in the middle of the Bears D-Line. That size was a positive, in my opinion.

QB: Fales is a good passer, but Jordan Lynch was a Heisman finalist as a QB, and proved to be a dual-threat at QB (Both running an passing). Keep in mind, whichever rookie we have is being developed by Trestman. Someone like Lynch would be a huge threat. Personally, I think Emery mishandled the QB situation this off-season. He needed to lock down McCown for two seasons, THEN get the extension for Cutler done (and yeah... I would not have gone as high an Emery did with Cutler, given the injury situation the last two seasons). A QB depth chart of Cutler, McCown, Lynch would have been immensely superior to what the Bears have now.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:35 pm
by Magilla_Gorilla
clancyphile wrote:As for the other comments:
McCullers v. Ferguson: The biggest problem the D had last year was the inability to stop the run. To put it bluntly, McCullers was arguably the best run-stuffing DT in the draft - almost a perfect fit for what the Bears needed to address the inability to stop the run. Per the CBS Sports scouting report, McCullers played both the 0 and 3 techniques. Given the run defense's trouble, Sutton in the second and McCullers in the third was probably a better draft idea than Ferguson/Sutton. Finally, his size (6'7", 352 pounds) can't be coached. And yeah, I LIKED the notion of having a nearly immovable mountain in the middle of the Bears D-Line. That size was a positive, in my opinion.

QB: Fales is a good passer, but Jordan Lynch was a Heisman finalist as a QB, and proved to be a dual-threat at QB (Both running an passing). Keep in mind, whichever rookie we have is being developed by Trestman. Someone like Lynch would be a huge threat. Personally, I think Emery mishandled the QB situation this off-season. He needed to lock down McCown for two seasons, THEN get the extension for Cutler done (and yeah... I would not have gone as high an Emery did with Cutler, given the injury situation the last two seasons). A QB depth chart of Cutler, McCown, Lynch would have been immensely superior to what the Bears have now.


McCuller was/is a stiff. He literally stands straight up at the snap and gives up all leverage. His size is immediately negated because of his crappy technique. The only thing that got McCullers drafted at all was his size - and that didn't get him picked until the last pick of the 6th round. Anyone who thinks McCullers can play 3-technique is high. Ferguson was a better run defender and a more stout player in the middle of the line than McCullers was - despite the 30 to 40 pound weight difference.

Jordan Lynch isn't an NFL QB. He never will be. David Fales has less than a 0.0% chance of getting beat out by Lynch for the 2nd/3rd QB spot. Especially now that the Bears are outright labeling Lynch as a RB. Did you hears Emery's 45 minute interview on 'The Game' about his draft picks and UDFA? He talked about Lynch quite a bit, and not once did he talk about him as a QB or about his arm. It was all about what a tough inside runner he was.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:27 pm
by ptpablo
clancyphile wrote:Overall, a B.

Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+

2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+

3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A

4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C

4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-

6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-

6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B

7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-

Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...

The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.



Who was offering a 3rd rounder for Bennett?

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:40 pm
by RedBulls23
ptpablo wrote:
clancyphile wrote:Overall, a B.

Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+

2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+

3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A

4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C

4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-

6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-

6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B

7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-

Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...

The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.



Who was offering a 3rd rounder for Bennett?

No one. In fact no one offered anything for him which is why the Bears just released him.

And then he talks about not getting something for Bush. Lmao, did he even watch any bears games last year and see how much bush sucked? Yeah, a GM was dieing to give up a draft pick for Michael Bush. :lol:

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:24 pm
by heir_jordan22
clancyphile wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:This is delusional? D+ for Ferguson even though he was more productive than his predecessor at LSU, Brockers, who is very successful in STL and was selected 14th overall. Saying you want McCullers when he is STRICTLY a 3-4 NT who (he has no mobility!). Saying that Jordan Lynch... JORDAN LYNCH... Is a better pro Qb prospect than a guy who is one of the top guys in every passing statistic and known for his accuracy while Lynch can barely hit the side of a barn. And sure Logan Thomas is big and athletic but he also is very erratic with his accuracy.

And to say that we should've trade Bennett for a third rounder. Are you in drugs???? Seriously. After free agency, after the draft, after their ONLY receiver is suspended for the year, and after UDFA...that's when Bennett was signed. By one of the worst offenses in the league. And we could've gotten assets for him.?? Wow. I bet we could get a first rounder for Shea McClellin right now too.

And is Carey good enough for five carries a game? Every expert has him as a top five RB in the class. He slid because of character concerns. But you know something about him that nobody else does I guess. Maybe he's afraid of real grass and that'll keep him off the field.

So much delusion in your post I'm starting to think you wanted to use green font.


I'd rather have tried to trade Bennett and Bush as opposed to just releasing them outright. But that's just my opinion.

As for the other comments:
McCullers v. Ferguson: The biggest problem the D had last year was the inability to stop the run. To put it bluntly, McCullers was arguably the best run-stuffing DT in the draft - almost a perfect fit for what the Bears needed to address the inability to stop the run. Per the CBS Sports scouting report, McCullers played both the 0 and 3 techniques. Given the run defense's trouble, Sutton in the second and McCullers in the third was probably a better draft idea than Ferguson/Sutton. Finally, his size (6'7", 352 pounds) can't be coached. And yeah, I LIKED the notion of having a nearly immovable mountain in the middle of the Bears D-Line. That size was a positive, in my opinion.

QB: Fales is a good passer, but Jordan Lynch was a Heisman finalist as a QB, and proved to be a dual-threat at QB (Both running an passing). Keep in mind, whichever rookie we have is being developed by Trestman. Someone like Lynch would be a huge threat. Personally, I think Emery mishandled the QB situation this off-season. He needed to lock down McCown for two seasons, THEN get the extension for Cutler done (and yeah... I would not have gone as high an Emery did with Cutler, given the injury situation the last two seasons). A QB depth chart of Cutler, McCown, Lynch would have been immensely superior to what the Bears have now.

Wow you're right man. In fact let's sign Tim Tebow and Casey Hampton to compete for backup QB and starting NT.

Re: Grade Emery's Draft

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:05 am
by IWannaGoHIGHER
I really don't like the whole "grading drafts" exercise. We really have no idea until we see these guy play on Sundays for at least a season. It's an inexact science, that's why we have first round busts, and late round gems.

I do have a football background, and I enjoy watching film. Over the past week I've studied the Bears draft class and, here are my thought. I've done this in the past, and people seem to respond well, so do your worst.

1 14 (14) Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech: The biggest trait that jumped out at me was Fuller vs the run, or in space. I would say he has an elite skill in that area. I saw in multiple occasions vs spread type offenses in a stack alignment (exactly what it sounds like, one receiver in stacked on top of another) Fuller would be the only one lined up on that side within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Which is pretty much unheard of, but he constantly would make plays in that alignment. Extremely impressive.

In the coverage aspect of his game I saw a guy who was sort of a jack or all trades, master of none. I think his read and react skills are great, a very smart player when it comes to reading routes. I loved his tape playing slot, dominated in short and intermediate routes, and almost always was able to get his hands on that opposing receiver. He does seem to have a tendency to get beat by double moves and didn't have elite closing speed to recover from mistakes.

While he is a very tough player, and has great tackling form, he was a bit reckless at times. Multiple times I saw him run into teammates, or tackle players with his whole body, and injure himself this way. I do have concerns about that, because its a very thin line in the NFL between in being smart and aggressive, and being reckless. He will have to make some tweaks to his game, but every defender does to a certain extent coming into the league.

Overall you can see what the Bears like about Fuller watching the tape. He can play nickel day one, great vs the run, and is a very smart player. Going to have to continue to work on his technique and style, but he's got a very high floor. Will be a solid player for a long time if he can stay healthy.

His best game of the year vs the best competition:
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kyle-fuller-vs-alabama-2013/
Playing the inverted safety you can see some of the aspects I was talking about vs the run.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kyle-fuller-vs-georgia-tech-2013/

2 19 (51) Ego Ferguson - DT - LSU: I would say he's very raw. Not just as a pass rusher either. Seem to sometimes have a hard time locating the ball sometimes. You saw improvement as the season when on, which is very important. Defiantly a player you could point to as an example of why stats (without contexts) can be very misleading. Was on a loaded defense, and did his job very well. Which was to occupy blockers, and stop the run. He does all the things well that people don't notice unless your looking. While his sack numbers were low, he often would collapse the pocket, and create sack opportunity for teammates.

As for fit you can see him at a shade NT technique. As a rookie I can see him as a rotational NT who helps stop the run. After last year I don't think the Bears can have too many defensive linemen who excel vs the run. Defiantly looks like his best football is ahead of him. Will need to work on his technique and play recognition but the talent and ability is all there. Can't think of a better player to mentor him than Jeremiah Ratliff.

Vs Arkansas you can see a couple times where he totally controls Swanson (the Lions draft pick)
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/ego-fer ... nsas-2013/

3 18 (82) Will Sutton - DT - Arizona State: A bit undersized, but football is a game of leverage. I stuck for the most part to his 2012 film. For those who don't know his story. He was dominate in 2012 at around 270-280 some NFL guys told him he needed to bulk up for the league, and he did. At the end of last year was at 320. And you could tell, had defiantly lost some of his bust this year, but was still the Pac-12 Defensive player of the year.

As for the tape you see he has a great burst off the ball, great in 1 vs 1 in pass rush situations. Love his hand use, and has some great pass rushing move and counters. You can tell he studies linemen, does a great job of setting up his pass rush moves. Saw people have concerns about his motor, but I didn't see it. I thought he played with great energy and pad level. Just because your not in on every tackle, doesn't mean your not trying. He faced a lot more double teams this year, and was good at taking them on. Not someone who I think will ever be elite in terms of stopping the run up the middle, but can hold the point well enough with his leverage, and great first step.

I see him as a rotational 3 tech from day one. As long as he keeps his weight down (from pictures it looks like he's already slimmed down quite a bit), I think he can become an excellent pass-rush DT. Really liked this pick.

Tape from 2012 dominate vs Cal you see the burst throughout the game
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/will-sutton-vs-cal-2012/

4 17 (117) Ka'Deem Carey - RB - Arizona: Might be my favorite pick when its all said and done. Love his vision, his running style, this is a guy won't go down by an arm tackle, and his hands. His production was off the charts the last two years. A bit distorted because of the spread, and the soft boxes he faced, but impressive none the less. A lot of people have talked about his slow 40 time. From what I saw he's got plenty of speed. Their is a difference between running down a track, and playing football. So while you can't qualify "football speed" I think he's got plenty of it.

I think Bears fan will quickly love him. He runs angry and is always pushing for extra yards. Really excited to see what Trestman does with this guy.

Oregon couldn't stop him
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kadeem-carey-vs-oregon-2013/

4 31 (131) Brock Vereen - S - Minnesota: Really smart player. Played a variety of positions on the Minnesota defense. Love his flexibility, and he shows great intelligent playing the position. Rarely out of position. If he hadn't played on such a crappy team. and stayed at safety more constantly he would've been drafted a lot higher. Has great technique, and really liked the anticipation he showed constantly.

Drags down as a tackler, never going to be known as a hard hitter. I saw at least 2 or 3 interceptions bounce off his hands, needs to work on his hands.

Great example of how versatile he can be
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/brock-vereen-vs-iowa-2013/

6 7 (183) David Fales - QB - San Jose State: I can see why Trestman liked him. Great feet, great eyes, and shows great anticipation. Very good technique, and has a very accurate short and intermediate throws. Willing to sit and the pocket and take the hit to make the throw. Which is very important in the NFL.

As it been stated his arm talent is less than optimal. Doesn't have a rocket arm, but that can be developed a little bit.

Game where he out played Derek Carr
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/david-fales-vs-fresno-state-2013/

6 15 (191) Pat O'Donnell - P - Miami: Not going to pretend I know anything about punters. But I don't have a problem with taking a punter. If you think he can start for 5-10 years you take him.

7 31 (246) Charles Leno Jr. - OT - Boise State: A 7th rounder so it's probably all a moot point. But I think he might have an outside chance at a practice squad. He's got the body type for the position, I think he could project as more of a guard in the NFL.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/charles-leno-jr-vs-wyoming-2013/

Overall I think this may be my favorite Emery draft yet. Time will tell.