Grade Emery's Draft
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:21 pm
How does Emery grade out on his 3rd draft attempt?
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Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.
fleet wrote:David Haugh @DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.
fleet wrote:David Haugh @DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.
Red-Bulls83 wrote:fleet wrote:David Haugh @DavidHaugh 6h
Of the two defensive tackles the Bears drafted, Angelo thinks Will Sutton has a higher "ceiling" than Ego Ferguson. Interesting.
I think David haugh is the only person in town that cares what Angelo thinks.
clancyphile wrote:Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...
The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.
heir_jordan22 wrote:This is delusional? D+ for Ferguson even though he was more productive than his predecessor at LSU, Brockers, who is very successful in STL and was selected 14th overall. Saying you want McCullers when he is STRICTLY a 3-4 NT who (he has no mobility!). Saying that Jordan Lynch... JORDAN LYNCH... Is a better pro Qb prospect than a guy who is one of the top guys in every passing statistic and known for his accuracy while Lynch can barely hit the side of a barn. And sure Logan Thomas is big and athletic but he also is very erratic with his accuracy.
And to say that we should've trade Bennett for a third rounder. Are you in drugs???? Seriously. After free agency, after the draft, after their ONLY receiver is suspended for the year, and after UDFA...that's when Bennett was signed. By one of the worst offenses in the league. And we could've gotten assets for him.?? Wow. I bet we could get a first rounder for Shea McClellin right now too.
And is Carey good enough for five carries a game? Every expert has him as a top five RB in the class. He slid because of character concerns. But you know something about him that nobody else does I guess. Maybe he's afraid of real grass and that'll keep him off the field.
So much delusion in your post I'm starting to think you wanted to use green font.
clancyphile wrote:As for the other comments:
McCullers v. Ferguson: The biggest problem the D had last year was the inability to stop the run. To put it bluntly, McCullers was arguably the best run-stuffing DT in the draft - almost a perfect fit for what the Bears needed to address the inability to stop the run. Per the CBS Sports scouting report, McCullers played both the 0 and 3 techniques. Given the run defense's trouble, Sutton in the second and McCullers in the third was probably a better draft idea than Ferguson/Sutton. Finally, his size (6'7", 352 pounds) can't be coached. And yeah, I LIKED the notion of having a nearly immovable mountain in the middle of the Bears D-Line. That size was a positive, in my opinion.
QB: Fales is a good passer, but Jordan Lynch was a Heisman finalist as a QB, and proved to be a dual-threat at QB (Both running an passing). Keep in mind, whichever rookie we have is being developed by Trestman. Someone like Lynch would be a huge threat. Personally, I think Emery mishandled the QB situation this off-season. He needed to lock down McCown for two seasons, THEN get the extension for Cutler done (and yeah... I would not have gone as high an Emery did with Cutler, given the injury situation the last two seasons). A QB depth chart of Cutler, McCown, Lynch would have been immensely superior to what the Bears have now.
clancyphile wrote:Overall, a B.
Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+
2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+
3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A
4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C
4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-
6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-
6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B
7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-
Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...
The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.
ptpablo wrote:clancyphile wrote:Overall, a B.
Here's my pick-by-pick take:
1. CB Kyle Fuller. Gives the Bears a potential successor to Charles Tillman - either immediately (with Tillman moving to safety) or down the road (when Tillman retires). A+
2. DT Ego Ferguson. Decent size, but did not see the college production. Would have preferred to see Daniel McCullers (6'7", 352 lb DT) picked where the Bears got Carey. - and he would have been available in the draft later. Would have gone for Sutton at this point, or tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. D+
3. DT Will Sutton. Looks like he could be a disruptive pass-rushing DT. Would have been a good pick in the second round. A
4A. RB Ka'Deem Carey. Looks like a productive RB. Is he good enough to spell Forte? C
4B. S Brock Vereen. Versatile defensive back can play safety or corner. Could be a surprise at nickelback. Lack of picks not a concern - as long as he breaks up passes, and makes tackles I'm content. A-
6A. QB David Fales. Looks like he could be a late-round find as a backup QB, an important position given Cutler's history the last two years. But is undrafted free agent Jordan Lynch the better prospect as a QB? B-
6B. P Pat O'Donnell. Replaces Adam Podlesh. B
7. OT Charles Leno. Would have looked for a late-round WR steal, like Cody Hoffman (6'4", 223 lbs.) from BYU. C-
Overall: The draft was not bad, but could have been better. Getting McCullers would have really upped the run defense far more than Ferguson, was available when Carey was picked. Furthermore, with Cleveland now considering signing Earl Bennett, Emery's decision to release him, instead of trading him for a 3rd-round pick looms as a missed opportunity. Imagine getting a QB like Logan Thomas in the mix instead of Fales...
The grade is a B, largely because Fuller, Sutton, and Vereen will be huge assets for the defense, while O'Donnell give the Bears a punter for the next 5-10 years.
Who was offering a 3rd rounder for Bennett?
clancyphile wrote:heir_jordan22 wrote:This is delusional? D+ for Ferguson even though he was more productive than his predecessor at LSU, Brockers, who is very successful in STL and was selected 14th overall. Saying you want McCullers when he is STRICTLY a 3-4 NT who (he has no mobility!). Saying that Jordan Lynch... JORDAN LYNCH... Is a better pro Qb prospect than a guy who is one of the top guys in every passing statistic and known for his accuracy while Lynch can barely hit the side of a barn. And sure Logan Thomas is big and athletic but he also is very erratic with his accuracy.
And to say that we should've trade Bennett for a third rounder. Are you in drugs???? Seriously. After free agency, after the draft, after their ONLY receiver is suspended for the year, and after UDFA...that's when Bennett was signed. By one of the worst offenses in the league. And we could've gotten assets for him.?? Wow. I bet we could get a first rounder for Shea McClellin right now too.
And is Carey good enough for five carries a game? Every expert has him as a top five RB in the class. He slid because of character concerns. But you know something about him that nobody else does I guess. Maybe he's afraid of real grass and that'll keep him off the field.
So much delusion in your post I'm starting to think you wanted to use green font.
I'd rather have tried to trade Bennett and Bush as opposed to just releasing them outright. But that's just my opinion.
As for the other comments:
McCullers v. Ferguson: The biggest problem the D had last year was the inability to stop the run. To put it bluntly, McCullers was arguably the best run-stuffing DT in the draft - almost a perfect fit for what the Bears needed to address the inability to stop the run. Per the CBS Sports scouting report, McCullers played both the 0 and 3 techniques. Given the run defense's trouble, Sutton in the second and McCullers in the third was probably a better draft idea than Ferguson/Sutton. Finally, his size (6'7", 352 pounds) can't be coached. And yeah, I LIKED the notion of having a nearly immovable mountain in the middle of the Bears D-Line. That size was a positive, in my opinion.
QB: Fales is a good passer, but Jordan Lynch was a Heisman finalist as a QB, and proved to be a dual-threat at QB (Both running an passing). Keep in mind, whichever rookie we have is being developed by Trestman. Someone like Lynch would be a huge threat. Personally, I think Emery mishandled the QB situation this off-season. He needed to lock down McCown for two seasons, THEN get the extension for Cutler done (and yeah... I would not have gone as high an Emery did with Cutler, given the injury situation the last two seasons). A QB depth chart of Cutler, McCown, Lynch would have been immensely superior to what the Bears have now.