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Mock draft 2015

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:31 pm
by clancyphile
Trades:
Bears trade QB Jay Cutler and 2016 2nd round-pick to CLE for #12 and #19 overall picks
Bears trade WR Brandon Marshall to Seattle for #31 pick

Draft:
1A. SS Landon Collins, Alabama
1B. WR Kevin White, WVU
1C. MLB/FB Shaq Thompson, Washington
1D. DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
2. QB Brett Hundley, UCLA
3. CB Jalen Collins, USU
4. TE Nick Boyle, Delaware
5. WR Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas
6. LS/DB Nate Boyer, Texas

Re: Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:58 am
by City of Trees
clancyphile wrote:Trades:
Bears trade QB Jay Cutler and 2016 2nd round-pick to CLE for #12 and #19 overall picks
Bears trade WR Brandon Marshall to Seattle for #31 pick

Draft:
1A. SS Landon Collins, Alabama
1B. WR Kevin White, WVU
1C. MLB/FB Shaq Thompson, Washington
1D. DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
2. QB Brett Hundley, UCLA
3. CB Jalen Collins, USU
4. TE Nick Boyle, Delaware
5. WR Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas
6. LS/DB Nate Boyer, Texas

With your 1000 first round picks I'd go

1a. DT Danny Shelton
1b. SS Landon Collins
1c. ILB/S Shaq Thompson
1d. QB B. Hundley
2. ILB D. Perryman
3. C Hroniss Grasu

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Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:28 am
by City of Trees
My real 3 round mock

1. DT Danny Shelton
2. ILB D. Perryman or QB Hundley
3. FS Derron Smith

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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:27 am
by City of Trees
I would love Shaq Thompson on the Bears. Cam Chancellor type of presence playing SS or play making LB. I just don't know if 7 is good value for him.

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Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:19 am
by Costa78
Glad to see someone else wanting us to pick up Denzel Perryman from the U. That's the guy I want in the middle of that D. He is That Nasty old school type that we've been missing.

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:07 am
by heir_jordan22
I think at 7 the best players who could be on the board are a couple pass rushers, possibly Trae Waynes and one or both receivers. I think we will most likely take one of those pass rushers or trade down.

Obviously FA will have a huge impact on the draft. I see a lot if strength in the speed/slot wr/kr. Harry Douglas and Jacoby Jones are the two biggest names there. All the quality pass rushers will be expensive so I think we will take that at 7 since there's so much top talent there.

In the second round I think we can steal a leader for our defense at ILB. Perryman is really good but I thank Jake Ryan is just as good as him and is a sleeper. We might even be able to take our ILB in the 3rd. There are really talented CBs like Peters and Olomu who should slip so we can snag them in round two or three.

1- pass rusher
2/3- ILB/CB
Can't really think who we would take from there but we would have to plug holes at NT and S. And we obviously need to continue to add depth especially at LB, C, OT, QB, TE.

Lots of intriguing guys connected to our new staff that will be FA. CB Culliver played really well for SF. Virgil Green from DEN could compete for the 2nd TE spot. Terrance Knighton is one of the best combos of run stuffing and pass rushing in the league as a 335 lb NT. Could bring McCown back. Could re-sign De la Puente to eventually replace Garza.

Other guys that would be good pickups but aren't necessarily tied to any of our new staff are LB David Harris and S Devin McCourty. Very interesting options.

I don't see us cutting Cutler simply because once the cap jumps a couple more times he will be one of the lowest paid starting QBs in the NFL and we still haven't put together a viable all-around team so let's see what can happen.

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:49 pm
by heir_jordan22
I wouldn't be surprised if we took Bud Dupree at 7 or traded down a few slots to take him. He might be the most physically gifted player in the entire draft and is in the mold of Julius Peppers and Alton Smith when it comes to size and athleticism. We know that Fangio and Fox developed those two guys very well

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2015 7:18 am
by City of Trees
I can see us trading down with Cleveland. As much as I'd like to see the Bears nab both of the Browns first round picks I don't think the Browns would want that. The most reasonable trade I see is:

Bears #7 - 1500 pts
Willie Young
For

Browns #12 - 1200 pts
#43 - 470 pts (2nd rd.)



I know pass rush is priority #1 but taking the best defensive player on the board needs to be their thinking. This defense has so many wholes that the Bears can't afford to pass on value for need. My mock has the Bears absolutely stealing Waynes at #12. I think he will be better than Fuller. He wears his man while showing the ball skills. Not only has he been rated the #1 CB but to me he screams how a Chicago Bears defensive player should play. He has proven he can ball out in the cold (not a big deciding factor however considering Soldier Field this adds value for the Bears). Teaming Fuller and Waynes sets the Bears starting CB tandem for a long time.

Mock 1:

#12- Trae Waynes, CB
#39- D. Perryman, ILB
#43- Hau'oli Kikaha, OLB 3-4
#71- Jaquiski Tartt, SS
#103- Andy Gallic, C


Notes:

-Most here agree Perryman would be an excellent pick.
-Kikaha is considered the best pure pass rusher entering the draft.
-Draft Center replacement for whenever the Bears say Garza is finished.


Mock 2:

#12- Bud Dupree, OLB
#39- PJ Williams, CB
#43- D. Perryman, ILB
#71- AJ Cann, OG
#103- Bryce Petty, QB


Notes:
-Fox/Vangio get their pass rusher.
-PJ Williams will challenge Jennings for a staring spot
-AJ Cann gives needed depth. Also can fill LG if Bears move Long to T.
-Petty hits his WR's in stride. Has the tools, Bears get their QB to develop

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Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2015 7:24 pm
by heir_jordan22
I don't see Waynes dropping out of the top 10 at all.i think every team from 2-6 could be considering him, especially the Jets. They have nothing at CB.

I do like the trade idea. Bud Dupree is our guy, I think if we can trade down.

As for PJ Williams, I think Olomu and Peters are both better and will be there in the 2nd and possibly the 3rd, so I'd rather get one of them.

I agree Perryman would be an excellent pick. McKinney has the most upside of all the LBs in this draft imo, so depends how Pace would grade that.

Re: Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2015 8:10 pm
by City of Trees
heir_jordan22 wrote:As for PJ Williams, I think Olomu and Peters are both better and will be there in the 2nd and possibly the 3rd, so I'd rather get one of them.


I have Peters going late1st/early 2nd round. I like everything about Olomu except for his 5'9 height. Williams is bigger and can play the run better. Olomu would be a great nickel corner imo

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Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2015 9:06 pm
by heir_jordan22
I think Peters will drop because of his off field issues. But he is a late first round talent, and he didn't even get to showcase himself for most of his senior year.

Re: Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2015 9:45 pm
by City of Trees
heir_jordan22 wrote:I think Peters will drop because of his off field issues. But he is a late first round talent, and he didn't even get to showcase himself for most of his senior year.
I'd choose Peters over Williams

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Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:41 am
by ChiBulls09
I got distracted from studying and did a mock draft simulator on First-pick.com

Results (I tried to make this realistic as possible):

1st Rd, Pick 7: LB Vic Beasley from Clemson
6'3 246 lbs
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/vic-beasley?id=2552301

We need an impact player on both sides of the ball. My guess is the defense needs it more with the way they played last year. With new HC John Fox, I see him utilizing Beasley in role similar to Broncos LB Von Miller. I would also be excited to see what Coach Fangio can do with him as well. In a nutshell, Beasley and Von Miller's measurables/skill-sets seem very similar, which makes it very enticing to pick him. IMO, Beasley > Gregory if I had to choose if we were going with an OLB in the 1st round.

2nd Rd, Pick 7: OT Jake Fisher from Oregon
6'6 306 lbs
Combine Results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/jake-fisher?id=2552360

There will be OTs that will go before Fisher in the 1st round so I'm hoping he falls to our early 2nd round pick... We've had success with Oregon O-linemen in Kyle Long so why not add another? From what I've heard, Fisher played really well on the line at Oregon, however I believe he was the most penalized O-lineman last year. He still has a great skill-set, size, and tools to become a starting LT or RT. Bears LT Bushrod is on the wrong side of 30 and RT Jordan Mills didn't play that well last year. All in all, a solid O-line greatly improves an offense. Look at Romo last year, he had an amazing O-line and all he had to do was hand the ball to Murray. The Cowboys won games and made the playoffs with a great O-line and run game. I'd like to see Cutler replicate similar to what Romo did on the Cowboys' offense last year, focus on a run first offense and pass when the time is right. Fisher can battle for that RT spot and I can definitely see him taking over the left side when Bushrod is gone.

3rd Rd, Pick 7: Trade down for Cleveland's 3rd & 5th Rd pick (IMO, this is something the Browns FO would do haha...)

3rd Rd, Pick 13 (CLE): C Hroniss Grasu from Oregon
6'3 297 lbs
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/hroniss-grasu?id=2552245

Garza is old as heck and Brian De la Puente's future with the Bears is unknown. I don't know if teams will select a center in the 2nd round, but there is tremendous value selecting Grasu in the 3rd round. Grasu fills a void and can easily become our starting center. Like I said, we've had success with Oregon's O-linemen in Kyle Long, who has basically became the best O-lineman on the Bears. Grasu is easily a top-3 center in this draft and is a solid all-around player. I could see Auburn's center, Reese Dismukes, going before him, but it's a toss-up on who's better. I will emphasize that having a good O-line is pivotal for an efficient and productive offense.

4th Rd, Pick 7: CB Charles Gaines from Louisville
5'10 180 lbs
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/charles-gaines?id=2552691

This is a deep draft for CBs. I see a lot of CBs going before him such as Waynes from MSU, Collins from LSU, Darby from FSU, and so on... Gaines runs a 4.4 and seems like a solid CB that could excel under Coach Fox & Fangio. He has a thin build, but that can be worked on and Kyle Fuller needs someone on the opposite side. I'm unsure about Tillman next year and Jennings might be a nickel back next year since he's getting older.

5th Rd, Pick 6 (NYJ): RB Malcolm Brown from Texas
5'11 224 lbs
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/malcolm-brown?id=2552382

This is also a deep draft for RBs. I see a lot of RBs going before him such as Gordon, Yeldon, Gurley, Ajayi, Cobb, and so on... This pick will surprise a lot of people since he's not a big name, however he is a big and physical RB that we could use. Although, Forte is a great RB, he's getting older, and Carey isn't much of a big/downhill runner. Brown can fill that role and seems like a solid RB, if you read his report on the link above. He also has 10 inch hands, which is a plus in the receiving game. I want the Bears to run the ball more next year and you can't go wrong with getting younger on our RB core.

5th Rd, Pick 11 (CLE): WR Stefon Diggs from Maryland
6'0 195 lbs
4.46 40
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/stefon-diggs?id=2552608

There is also a lot of good WR prospects this year, but I have a gut feeling that Diggs might be a diamond in the rough. He will likely fall because of his injuries, a previously broken leg and a lacerated kidney, but I see him producing if he stays healthy. Diggs has a skill-set similar to WRs Kenny Stills and Brandin Cooks, whom I'm sure GM Pace is very familiar with. Diggs is fast and seems like a good hands catcher. Don't forget about his 10 inch hands... After losing, Marshall to the Jets, there is a missing piece on that core even though we just added Eddie Royal. Diggs will add another dimension on offense if we need to air it out or make some vertical plays and will also add depth. He's not a big, 6'2+ receiver like Marshall, but he has good hands and can make plays given the opportunity. Cutler will have to work on his accuracy and precision since he doesn't have Marshall bailing him out anymore.

6th Rd, Pick 7: NT James Castleman from Ok. State
6'2 300 lbs
Combine results: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/james-castleman?id=2552328

He's not really an exciting prospect, but we could use some depth at NT with our new 3-4 defensive front. Castleman is a 1-gap NT (I think) listed at 300 lbs, but he looks bigger than his listed weight. Coach Fox used a 2-gap NT in Denver and Fangio used a 1-gap NT in SF, but we'll somehow make it work one way or the other.

Our 7th rd pick went to NYJ in the Marshall trade... :(

Anyways, hope you all enjoyed this. Have a great weekend!

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:23 pm
by City of Trees
My updated mock draft after McPhee, Royal, and Rolle signings:


If Bears stay at #7
1. V. Beasley
2. A. Cooper
3. D. Shelton

IF all three are off the board I'd trade the down with Cleveland

If Bears draft at 12
1. Dupree
2. Waynes
3. Collins (if Parker doesn't sign)

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:28 am
by heir_jordan22
Hopefully we can sign a NT in free agency, then we can truly go for best player available in every round.

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:35 pm
by heir_jordan22
I think at 7 the only players guaranteed not to be there are Winston, Mariota, and Williams. That leaves these guys as the next best players on the board and you can pretty much sort them by preference.

Pass rushers: Fowler, Gregory, Ray, Beasley
Receivers: Cooper, White
O Tackles: Scherff, Flowers
Cornerback: Waynes

I think all those guy are pretty much on the same level. Everyone else left on the board is at least a notch lower.

My questions to the board:
Of all those players who do you see the Bears drafting at 7?
Which of those players would you like the Bears to draft at 7?
Do you want them to target one of those positions in particular? If so, which one?
Do you see or want to see the Bears trade down? And if so, for whom?

Let's get the conversation going.

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:51 pm
by heir_jordan22
I personally would like to see us trade down to 11 or 12, that way we still are guaranteed to have at least 1 or 2 of those guys on the board. If someone outside of the guys I named gets picked before 7, I'd be comfortable with trading down to 13, again to be guaranteed that at least one of these top flight guys will be on the board. I really don't have a preference which of them we pick.

I think LB and S should be addressed in the draft as well but the talent isn't good enough to take them that early. Maybe rounds 3-6. But this draft is stacked from top to bottom with receivers, corners and pass rushers so it might make the most sense to take a tackle in the first. NT talent is pretty good in rounds 2 and 3

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:14 pm
by heir_jordan22
Dream scenario:
Trade to 11-13, get an extra 2nd rounder
1. Erick Flowers or Brandon Scherff
2a. Perryman or McKinney. If they're gone we can grab a pass rusher who drops.
2b. CB Peters, Olomu, Jones or that guy from Florida Atlantic. One of them will be here.
3. Kurtis Drummond. Or whoever they have as the top safety
4. Stephon Diggs, Tyler Lockette, Dorial Green-Beckham, Tyler Montgomery. One of them will be there.
5. NT (Ellis McCarthy is likely to be here. Goldman or Phillips could drop. It's the draft. Really good talent drops sometimes. Hopefully we get lucky. If no NTs worth taking then there are some good pass rushers, inside linebackers and quarterbacks that we could take.
6. See 5.

Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:27 pm
by RedBulls23
heir_jordan22 wrote:I think at 7 the only players guaranteed not to be there are Winston, Mariota, and Williams. That leaves these guys as the next best players on the board and you can pretty much sort them by preference.

Pass rushers: Fowler, Gregory, Ray, Beasley
Receivers: Cooper, White
O Tackles: Scherff, Flowers
Cornerback: Waynes

I think all those guy are pretty much on the same level. Everyone else left on the board is at least a notch lower.

My questions to the board:
Of all those players who do you see the Bears drafting at 7?
Which of those players would you like the Bears to draft at 7?
Do you want them to target one of those positions in particular? If so, which one?
Do you see or want to see the Bears trade down? And if so, for whom?

Let's get the conversation going.

If all those guys are really equal as far as BPA goes, then I think they will take a pass rusher. I have a feeling they want to bring back a dominant defense in Chicago.

IMO, I think they should take the best pass rusher on the board. The kind of guy that demands a double team to really open things up for his teammates.

Overall, I don't know a lot about college football to really say what player they should target.

Re: Re: Mock draft 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:40 am
by City of Trees
heir_jordan22 wrote:I think at 7 the only players guaranteed not to be there are Winston, Mariota, and Williams. That leaves these guys as the next best players on the board and you can pretty much sort them by preference.

Pass rushers: Fowler, Gregory, Ray, Beasley
Receivers: Cooper, White
O Tackles: Scherff, Flowers
Cornerback: Waynes

I think all those guy are pretty much on the same level. Everyone else left on the board is at least a notch lower.

My questions to the board:
Of all those players who do you see the Bears drafting at 7?
Which of those players would you like the Bears to draft at 7?
Do you want them to target one of those positions in particular? If so, which one?
Do you see or want to see the Bears trade down? And if so, for whom?

Let's get the conversation going.

I feel White has the potential to be the best player in this year's draft. I see Dez Bryant and Julio Jones physical abilities with Alshon's hands. Unfortunately he seems a lot like Dez Bryant on the sidelines... either way if you're drafting BPA I'd rank those available players

1. White
2. Cooper
3. Beasley
4. Waynes
5. Flowers Jr.
6. Flowers
7. Ray
8. Gregory
9. Scherff


I wouldn't forget about Dupree. I actually like the fact Dupree has an all around game, he isn't just a pass rusher like Ray or Gregory. Personally I rank Dupree 2nd OLB to Beasley.

To answer your questions I see the Bears drafting White or Cooper at 7. If the Bears stay at 7 I'd like to see White, Beasley, or Cooper taken with the pick. Targeting WR or OLB at 7 makes the most sense. NT and S are options if they trade down in 10-19.

I'm torn on trading down. For starters i feel really good about White, Beasley, and Cooper. Passing on them is risky since there is no guarantee a targeted player will be around come time to use the traded down pick. At 7, there is no doubt your team is still picking from the top tier at multiple positions. At say 12 or 19, that's not the case. With that said I like your idea of trading down and grabbing an additional pick. What if the Bears used #7 & #39 to get #12 & #19?

12. NT Danny Shelton
19. S Landon Collins
71. CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu
103. RT Corey Robinson
134. NT Ellis McCarthy
167. DE Shaquille Riddick