In the first round the Chicago Bears Select KEVIN WHITE

[patryk7754]

a scout said say a possible negative is that he is pigeon toed and runs on his heels. I guess he is/does.

I don't think that's very important. What does concern me a little is something that Gruden pointed out. White lined up on the right side for a strong majority of the time (above 90 percent i believe). Tavon Austin did the same thing in the same system. Although its a concern, its a very small one since White is huge and Tavon austin would be small in the NBA.

[City of Trees]

a scout said say a possible negative is that he is pigeon toed and runs on his heels. I guess he is/does.

I don't think that's very important. What does concern me a little is something that Gruden pointed out. White lined up on the right side for a strong majority of the time (above 90 percent i believe). Tavon Austin did the same thing in the same system. Although its a concern, its a very small one since White is huge and Tavon austin would be small in the NBA.

I've watched game tape on him and yes he is mostly on the right but he also lined up in the slot from the right... If that holds any value for u?

[City of Trees]

I think White will find success once he adjusts to NFL speed.

[patryk7754]

a scout said say a possible negative is that he is pigeon toed and runs on his heels. I guess he is/does.

I don't think that's very important. What does concern me a little is something that Gruden pointed out. White lined up on the right side for a strong majority of the time (above 90 percent i believe). Tavon Austin did the same thing in the same system. Although its a concern, its a very small one since White is huge and Tavon austin would be small in the NBA.

I've watched game tape on him and yes he is mostly on the right but he also lined up in the slot from the right... If that holds any value for u?

I guess the point is that routes are ran differently on different sides. Another point that gruden made about lining up on the right is that the best CB will be guarding him but since we have Alshon it doesn't really. I don't think it will be a problem long term just thought it was worth mentioning since gruden (wwho's probably the best tape analyst) Thinks it's something to be concerned with

[NZB2323]

This pick really makes Pace look smart for dealing BM. We get younger and cleared his $10 million off our cap

I don't see it that way. This was a lateral move with us losing Marshall. I was hoping we could improve with the #7 pick.

[emperorjones]

This pick really makes Pace look smart for dealing BM. We get younger and cleared his $10 million off our cap

I don't see it that way. This was a lateral move with us losing Marshall. I was hoping we could improve with the #7 pick.

But look at the cap savings you get over the next 3 years ($14-$15 million). Thats your improvement. That savings will be turned into another solid player hopefully. It would have been expensive to move up and we were short on picks with lots of holes.

[clancyphile]

This pick really makes Pace look smart for dealing BM. We get younger and cleared his $10 million off our cap

I don't see it that way. This was a lateral move with us losing Marshall. I was hoping we could improve with the #7 pick.

But look at the cap savings you get over the next 3 years ($14-$15 million). Thats your improvement. That savings will be turned into another solid player hopefully. It would have been expensive to move up and we were short on picks with lots of holes.

That's why I tried to trade down at the FirstPick.com NFI drft game. The more picks I could get, the more holes I could fill.

[clancyphile]

For instance, one draft I did just now:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30 (G.B.): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri
Round 2 Pick 7: Benardrick McKinney, ILB/OLB, Mississippi State
Round 2 Pick 11 (CLE): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 14 (S.F.): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville
Round 3 Pick 2 (TENN): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 7: Mitch Morse, OT/OG, Missouri
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Cody Prewitt, FS, Ole Miss
Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami (Fla.)
Round 3 Pick 31 (SEA): Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State
Round 4 Pick 7: James Sample, SS, Louisville
Round 4 Pick 20 (STL): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina
Round 5 Pick 21 (CINN): Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina
Round 6 Pick 11 (N.O.): Ty Montgomery, WR/RB, Stanford
Round 6 Pick 30 (G.B.): Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Aaron Ripkowski, FB, Oklahoma
Round 7 Pick 13 (N.O.): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Round 7 Pick 21 (CINN): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M
Round 7 Pick 30 (G.B.): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State

All from constantly trading down in the first round... and a little more in later rounds.

To me, the seven second-round picks and six third-rounders are the real difference-makers.

[heir_jordan22]

For instance, one draft I did just now:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30 (G.B.): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri
Round 2 Pick 7: Benardrick McKinney, ILB/OLB, Mississippi State
Round 2 Pick 11 (CLE): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 14 (S.F.): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville
Round 3 Pick 2 (TENN): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 7: Mitch Morse, OT/OG, Missouri
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Cody Prewitt, FS, Ole Miss
Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami (Fla.)
Round 3 Pick 31 (SEA): Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State
Round 4 Pick 7: James Sample, SS, Louisville
Round 4 Pick 20 (STL): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina
Round 5 Pick 21 (CINN): Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina
Round 6 Pick 11 (N.O.): Ty Montgomery, WR/RB, Stanford
Round 6 Pick 30 (G.B.): Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Aaron Ripkowski, FB, Oklahoma
Round 7 Pick 13 (N.O.): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Round 7 Pick 21 (CINN): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M
Round 7 Pick 30 (G.B.): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State

All from constantly trading down in the first round... and a little more in later rounds.

To me, the seven second-round picks and six third-rounders are the real difference-makers.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on RealGM.

[clancyphile]

For instance, one draft I did just now:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30 (G.B.): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri
Round 2 Pick 7: Benardrick McKinney, ILB/OLB, Mississippi State
Round 2 Pick 11 (CLE): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 14 (S.F.): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville
Round 3 Pick 2 (TENN): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 7: Mitch Morse, OT/OG, Missouri
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Cody Prewitt, FS, Ole Miss
Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami (Fla.)
Round 3 Pick 31 (SEA): Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State
Round 4 Pick 7: James Sample, SS, Louisville
Round 4 Pick 20 (STL): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina
Round 5 Pick 21 (CINN): Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina
Round 6 Pick 11 (N.O.): Ty Montgomery, WR/RB, Stanford
Round 6 Pick 30 (G.B.): Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Aaron Ripkowski, FB, Oklahoma
Round 7 Pick 13 (N.O.): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Round 7 Pick 21 (CINN): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M
Round 7 Pick 30 (G.B.): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State

All from constantly trading down in the first round... and a little more in later rounds.

To me, the seven second-round picks and six third-rounders are the real difference-makers.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on RealGM.

That was what I got at first-pick.com.

If you'd like, I'll re-do another draft - I bet I can get at least four or five picks in the second round with a lot of trading down in the first.

[clancyphile]

Just ran another mock at First-Pick.com - and got six second-rounders.

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 32 (N.E.): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Shaq Thompson, OLB/SS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 14 (S.F.): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri (A)
Round 2 Pick 16 (S.D.): Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (ARI): Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (B+)
Round 2 Pick 27 (DEN): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (B)
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 15 (S.F.): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 22 (ARI): Za'Darius Smith, DE/OLB, Kentucky (B)
Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Tre' Jackson, OG, Florida State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19 (K.C.): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State (B)
Round 4 Pick 24 (ARI): Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25 (CAR): Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 23 (ARI): Jacoby Glenn, CB/FS, UCF (B+)
Round 6 Pick 2 (N.E.): Ty Montgomery, WR/RB, Stanford (A-)
Round 6 Pick 7: Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech (B-)
Round 6 Pick 28 (BALT): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia (C+)
Round 7 Pick 6 (NYJ): Conner Neighbors, FB, LSU (C)
Round 7 Pick 14 (T.B.): Martin Ifedi, DE/OLB, Memphis (D+)
Round 7 Pick 18 (HOU): Robert Myers, OG/OT, Tennessee State (C-)

Six second-rounders from trading down, and four picks in the third and fourth rounds...

No, I don't think the draft was ridiculous.

[fleet]

a scout said say a possible negative is that he is pigeon toed and runs on his heels. I guess he is/does.

I don't think that's very important. What does concern me a little is something that Gruden pointed out. White lined up on the right side for a strong majority of the time (above 90 percent i believe). Tavon Austin did the same thing in the same system. Although its a concern, its a very small one since White is huge and Tavon austin would be small in the NBA.

IDK if this has anything to do with him being pigeon toed, but this is a nasty development:

Kevin White to undergo leg surgery, could miss season



By Dan Hanzus
Around the NFL Writer
Published: Aug. 15, 2015 at 12:31 p.m. Updated: Aug. 15, 2015 at 01:12 p.m.
So much for Kevin White's optimism about a return to the field.

Chicago Bears general manager Ryan Pace announced Saturday that White -- the seventh overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft -- has a stress fracture in his shin that will require surgery. White will begin the season on the team's PUP list and could miss his entire rookie season.


Pace said that White suffered a setback in his recovery this week, prompting the need for surgery. The team confirmed that White developed a stress fracture in his shin during OTAs. The hope was that rest and rehabilitation would solve the issue. The discomfort returned this week and coaches noticed a change in White's gait.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000510469/article/kevin-white-to-undergo-leg-surgery-could-miss-season

[johnnyvann840]

99% chance he misses the whole season.

[Mobby]

[story]

Wow... big blow. I mean I didn't expect much more than a 9-7 season at best, but it's gonna be mighty tough for Alshon to find his way being doubled all game.