Bears Rebuilding Plan

[emperorjones]

[emperorjones]

So happy we dumped Allen. never wanted him here. Very disappointed that we moved Brock Vereen since he at one point was anointed a starter by the current staff. From starter to cut in 2 1/2 months? Bostic just was not a fit I guess. He did have that great hit in his rookie preseason game, but injuries seem to linger with him.

[RedBulls23]

So far they have just gotten rid of players that don't fit or can't play.

It will be interesting to see if they trade a guy like Forte.

[heir_jordan22]

It's too bad we didn't move some of them before we had to cut Bass

[patryk7754]

If we trade Fort we better get a 1st. McCoy was trade for a 2nd and Kiko alonso. I think we should target teams that think they will become contenders if we trade Forte to them. Ravens, Saints, Jets, Giants, or Cowboys are some teams that I think would trade for him but there's still a chance that they end up in the top 15 picks. Some current contenders that might be willing to give up a late 1st are the Broncos, Colts, or the Cards. The Bucs might also be interested in giving a first for Forte.

The team that I think we can get a top 10 pick out of is the Browns.

[patryk7754]

It would be great if our plan pans out like this.....(assuming Forte has to be traded)
2016
-Trade Forte for a top 15 pick. I think the most likely deal would with the cowboys.

Free Agents:
Muhammad Wilkerson
Tashaun Gibson
Brandon Marshall (ILB)
I'd like to say Sean Smith but I highly doubt we can afford all that.

Draft:
1A; Joey Bosa (OLB/DE)
1B (10th): Vernon Hargreaves
2: John Theus (OT)
3: Jeremy Cash (SS)
4: Cassanova McKinzy (ILB)
6: Sterling Shepard (WR)
6: Joel Heath (DE/DT)
6: Noah Spence (OLB/DE)
7: Matt Hegarty (OG)

2017
Leonard Fournette (RB)

2018
Josh Rosen

If we actually stack up our defense in 2016 I doubt we'll be bad enough to draft Rosen since he'll most likely going to be the first overall pick, but hey, why not.

[RedBulls23]

If we trade Fort we better get a 1st. McCoy was trade for a 2nd and Kiko alonso. I think we should target teams that think they will become contenders if we trade Forte to them. Ravens, Saints, Jets, Giants, or Cowboys are some teams that I think would trade for him but there's still a chance that they end up in the top 15 picks. Some current contenders that might be willing to give up a late 1st are the Broncos, Colts, or the Cards. The Bucs might also be interested in giving a first for Forte.

The team that I think we can get a top 10 pick out of is the Browns.

Eagles didn't give them any draft picks. It was a straight swap of McCoy for Alonso. And that was for a 26 year old RB. The best the Bears should hope for Forte is a 4th or 5th rounder.

Unless you're a bad GM, you don't trade early round draft picks for a RB anymore. Not when you can draft them in the 3rd and 4th round. Kinda like how the Colts traded for Trent Richardson with a 1st rounder. Just a stupid trade.

[RedBulls23]

I'm sorry, but you have to be completely delusional to think you're getting a top 15 pick for a soon to be 30 year old RB.

[RedBulls23]

It's too bad we didn't move some of them before we had to cut Bass

That's a good point. I wonder why they waited so long to trade Allen. He was the first player that you knew would not fit this new system.

[heir_jordan22]

It's too bad we didn't move some of them before we had to cut Bass

That's a good point. I wonder why they waited so long to trade Allen. He was the first player that you knew would not fit this new system.

They probably couldn't find anyone to take him while they still owed the roster bonus. Then when they paid it they probably said "might as well see if he can help our team win." That obviously hasn't been happening, so they got rid of him while he had some value after a decent game against Arizona.

The bigger question for me is Bostic. If he had value now then he had value before. I guess they just started believing that Shea and Jones can hold it down going forward.

[patryk7754]

If we trade Fort we better get a 1st. McCoy was trade for a 2nd and Kiko alonso. I think we should target teams that think they will become contenders if we trade Forte to them. Ravens, Saints, Jets, Giants, or Cowboys are some teams that I think would trade for him but there's still a chance that they end up in the top 15 picks. Some current contenders that might be willing to give up a late 1st are the Broncos, Colts, or the Cards. The Bucs might also be interested in giving a first for Forte.

The team that I think we can get a top 10 pick out of is the Browns.

Eagles didn't give them any draft picks. It was a straight swap of McCoy for Alonso. And that was for a 26 year old RB. The best the Bears should hope for Forte is a 4th or 5th rounder.

Unless you're a bad GM, you don't trade early round draft picks for a RB anymore. Not when you can draft them in the 3rd and 4th round. Kinda like how the Colts traded for Trent Richardson with a 1st rounder. Just a stupid trade.

I know the Eagles didn't give up any picks the Bills I think. McCoy might be only 26 but he's injury prone and Forte is obviously better than him. I don't think giving up the 28th pick for Forte is a bad trade if you're a team like the Broncos or Cardinals. The colts probably won't trade a 1st for RB again.

And as far as you're bad GM comment, see my Browns trade.

I don't think it's realistic that we get a 1st for Forte but I would refuse to trade him for less value than what the Eagles got for McCoy.

[patryk7754]

I'm sorry, but you have to be completely delusional to think you're getting a top 15 pick for a soon to be 30 year old RB.

delusion was the theme of my rebuilding plan

[patryk7754]

I might be falling for his trap again, but Cutler is playing pretty well in this system. Fox is making sure that we are as conservative as can be, which has forced Cutler to cut back on his mistakes. The thing about this year, so far, Cutler's interceptions haven't been bad decisions, just bad throws. I think we're going to keep him at least until his contract expires, unless he just explodes (which is very possible)

[patryk7754]

I think the priority this off-season should be CB. I think its safe to say that CB is our weakest position and we might not address it in the draft. Sean Smith is huge lock down corner and his addition would move Fuller back to our second CB where he would excel.

I think our two main targets after CB should be ILB and DE. Brandon Marshall is a solid ILB and he has history with Fox so I think there's a great chance we land him. Wilkerson is obviously the best DE in FA this season and I don't thinks he's going back to the Jets but Idk if Pace is the type of guy to spend 100m dollars on a FA. We know that the owners are willing to spend that type of money but maybe not this off-season since we're in the middle of a rebuild.

If we strike out on those three positions or if we still money, I'd like to see us go after a LT to move Bushrod to RT and Long back to G. Bushrod is ass at LT tackle and I think it would benefit everyone if he was moved from that position. Okung, Andre Smith, and Cordy Glenn would be nice options.

[patryk7754]

Depending on where we draft I think we'll be going oline or ILB in the 1st. Wouldn't be surprised if we drafted someone to replace Houston at OLB either

[heir_jordan22]

We can definitely go best player available in the first round. Lots of good talent at a lot of positions of need for us. OT, CB, ILB, OLB, DE

[ADDinChicago]

I might be falling for his trap again, but Cutler is playing pretty well in this system. Fox is making sure that we are as conservative as can be, which has forced Cutler to cut back on his mistakes. The thing about this year, so far, Cutler's interceptions haven't been bad decisions, just bad throws. I think we're going to keep him at least until his contract expires, unless he just explodes (which is very possible)

It also only took about 49 years for the Bears to get an OC that isn't trying to be cute and over complicate things for Cutler. Cutler's looked good this season and up until yesterday, it was with a lot of backups. Hell, even his o-line is messed up already. I think it took a happy medium. Cutler's not changed, he's now just been asked to not have to play hero ball by a coach that gets it. It's also showing that Cutler has been and is hardly a "problem" for the Bears.

[patryk7754]

Offensively, what we have to fix is simple, the O-line. It seems like Long is getting used to playing RT and is continuously getting better. Our main issue is LT. I never liked Bushrod and now its pretty obvious that he's done. Not very good at all and he keeps getting hurt. Since the o-line talent coming out college has been sub-par (for the most part) for the past couple years, I'd like to see us address O-line in FA. I'm interested in the following players;
-Russel Okung (LT)
-Andre Smith (RT)
-Cordy Glen (LT)
-Joe Barksdale (RT)
-Alex Boone (G)

Cordy Glen is the only one I have a lot of confidence in to play LT at an elite level and adding Boone would sure up inside protection.


Defensively, its a little more complicated. We can draft or sign basically any position. Antel Rolle is probably our best secondary player right now but he's old and eventually will have to be replaced, outside of that our safeties are set. Our front 7 is pretty good but there's an obvious lack of speed and age can end up being a problem. Outside of Fuller, our CBs are small and can't tackle very well.

Houston is playing out of position and I'm going to assume that's because the coaching staff doesn't trust anyone else to play any better at OLB. Moving Houston back to DE would be one of main focuses. Jenkins has played very well so far as well but I'd like to see him as a rotational player. The main focus for me would be CB. We play a lot of one-on-one coverage in this defense and we don't have anyone who can cover the best WRs in the NFL in man. All the best secondaries have a fast and big corner so that's what we should target. Signing a number 1 CB would also move Fuller and Porter down to spots where they would excel. At ILB, Jones has played well but I still want to replace Shea.

My two main targets in FA would be Sean Smith and then Wilkerson. Smith would fit into this defense seamlessly. He's tall strong and fast. He doesn't cause a lot of TOs but he's lock down. Wilkerson is a great run stopper, better pass rusher, and can't be blocked one-on-one. He would make it a lot easier for Houston and Goldman on the d-line and give us the opportunity to do more 3-man blitzes.

We have almost 60m to spend this off-season but re-signing Forte and Jeffery would probably eat into that space. Jeffery will probably get around 12mil and Forte 7mil. That leaves us with 41mil. I'd like to us sign Glenn (12mil) and Smith (10mil). After that I'd see what type of cap hit signing Wilkerson would have in 2016. If we can work out around 14mil then I'd go after him over Boone because we still need to fill out the roster. If not, sign Boone for around 8mil. I'll assume we can work out some sort of deal with Wilkerson that will let us sign back ups

Now for the Draft. I'll we'll pick later than we did last year but too much. We have been getting excited lately and rightfully so but we've beaten a 2-3 team, 1-5 team and even if we did beat the Lions they would have been 0-6. I think we're good enough to compete but not win as many games as we'd like. I'll assume we pick around 12.

Round 1: Reggie Ragland, ILB
Round 2: Vadal Alexander, OG
Round 3: Erik Striker, OLB
Round 4: Josh Perry, OLB
Round 6: Josh Harvey-Clemons, S
Round 6: Melvin Lewis, NT
Round 6: Cody Kessler, QB,
Round 7: Noah Spence, OLB

After that our starters will look something like this;

Offense
QB: Cutler
RB: Forte
TE: Bennett
WR: Jeffery, White, Royal
O-Line: Glenn, Slauson, Montgomery, Alexander, Long

Defense
DL: Houston, Goldman, Wilkerson
LB: Striker, Ragland, Jones, McPhee
CB: Smith, Fuller
S: Amos, Rolle


I'd also like to see us add a different returner.

[patryk7754]

These moves are based on the same ideas as my previous post but going off that we sign only one star. I would prefer that star to be Wilkerson. After Wilkerson I'd like to go after these FAs;
Janoris Jenkins
Joe Barksdale (move Long to LT)
Alex Boone

This would only slightly adjust the draft

Round 1: Ragland
Round 2: Jeremy Cash, S (might consider Scooby Wright if he drops, to play OLB)
Round 3: Erik Striker, OLB
Round 4: Josh Perry, OLB
Round 6: Josh Harvey-Clemons, S
Round 6: Melvin Lewis, NT
Round 6: Cody Kessler, QB,
Round 7: Noah Spence, OLB

[RedBulls23]

These moves are based on the same ideas as my previous post but going off that we sign only one star. I would prefer that star to be Wilkerson. After Wilkerson I'd like to go after these FAs;
Janoris Jenkins
Joe Barksdale (move Long to LT)
Alex Boone

This would only slightly adjust the draft

Round 1: Ragland
Round 2: Jeremy Cash, S (might consider Scooby Wright if he drops, to play OLB)
Round 3: Erik Striker, OLB
Round 4: Josh Perry, OLB
Round 6: Josh Harvey-Clemons, S
Round 6: Melvin Lewis, NT
Round 6: Cody Kessler, QB,
Round 7: Noah Spence, OLB

I think the Bears only have 2 6th rounders. They traded their's for Khari Lee.