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Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 3:46 pm
by patryk7754
Since the season is officially over and the wheel will really start Turing on FA I thought I we should have a thread that we could keep our opinions and FA rumors separate from everything else.

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:07 pm
by Axxo
Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:11 pm
by patryk7754
These are my top targets by position

Safety: Eric Berry, Tony Jefferson, Baccari Rambo, DJ Swearinger, and Micah Hyde

Cornerback: Logan Ryan, Captain Munnerlyn, Dre Kirkpatrick, A.J. Abouye, Trumaine Johnson

Defensive End: Calais Campbell, Chris Baker, Glenn Dorsey

Defensive Tackle : Johnathan Hankins, Dontari Poe, Alan Branch, Bennie Logan

Left TackleAndrew Whitworth, Riley Reiff

Right Tackle: Byron Bell, Ricky Wagner, Don Barclay, Andre Smith, Sebastian Vollmer, Jordan Mills

Quarterback: Kirk Cousins,

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:12 pm
by patryk7754
Axxo wrote:Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:13 pm
by patryk7754
Overall these are the guys I try and sign:

Calais Campbell
Logan Ryan
Andre Whitworth
Byron Bell
Tony Jefferson

Re: RE: Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:41 pm
by heir_jordan22
patryk7754 wrote:
Axxo wrote:Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

Other could pass and it's definitely legal. Demaurice Smith is a jackass. Most states don't have workers compensation for most athletes. A bunch that do have workers comp for athletes have a limit based on a number of WEEKS. Workers comp was designed to compensate injured workers for the expected lost income. The fact that privately athletes get workers comp til age 67 in Illinois is crazy.

And since most states don't have workers comp for athletes, or have workers comp that only lasts a designated number of weeks, the age 35 limit would sill be much more than most states give. Florida and Texas are two of the state's I remember don't give workers comp to athletes. Tampa Bay, Miami, Jacksonville, Houston, Dallas - no workers comp. Demaurice Smith doesn't open his dumbass mouth calling any of those organizations cheap.

He needs to be more educated about the laws before he makes statements like this, because even if it's passed, players will get workers comp after working for the Bears than they would with almost any other organization.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 4:49 pm
by Axxo
heir_jordan22 wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:
Axxo wrote:Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

Other could pass and it's definitely legal. Demaurice Smith is a jackass. Most states don't have workers compensation for most athletes. A bunch that do have workers comp for athletes have a limit based on a number of WEEKS. Workers comp was designed to compensate injured workers for the expected lost income. The fact that privately athletes get workers comp til age 67 in Illinois is crazy.

And since most states don't have workers comp for athletes, or have workers comp that only lasts a designated number of weeks, the age 35 limit would sill be much more than most states give. Florida and Texas are two of the state's I remember don't give workers comp to athletes. Tampa Bay, Miami, Jacksonville, Houston, Dallas - no workers comp. Demaurice Smith doesn't open his dumbass mouth calling any of those organizations cheap.

He needs to be more educated about the laws before he makes statements like this, because even if it's passed, players will get workers comp after working for the Bears than they would with almost any other organization.

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Why isn't this addressed as part of the CBA if he is so concerned?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 5:35 pm
by clancyphile
Axxo wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

Other could pass and it's definitely legal. Demaurice Smith is a jackass. Most states don't have workers compensation for most athletes. A bunch that do have workers comp for athletes have a limit based on a number of WEEKS. Workers comp was designed to compensate injured workers for the expected lost income. The fact that privately athletes get workers comp til age 67 in Illinois is crazy.

And since most states don't have workers comp for athletes, or have workers comp that only lasts a designated number of weeks, the age 35 limit would sill be much more than most states give. Florida and Texas are two of the state's I remember don't give workers comp to athletes. Tampa Bay, Miami, Jacksonville, Houston, Dallas - no workers comp. Demaurice Smith doesn't open his dumbass mouth calling any of those organizations cheap.

He needs to be more educated about the laws before he makes statements like this, because even if it's passed, players will get workers comp after working for the Bears than they would with almost any other organization.

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Why isn't this addressed as part of the CBA if he is so concerned?

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Why pass up the chance to stick taxpayers with the tab?

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2017 5:44 pm
by patryk7754
I haven't read any story past the headline but I feel like an ageism case could be made. Then again I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Tue Feb 7, 2017 5:17 pm
by fleet
patryk7754 wrote:
Axxo wrote:Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

I think you underestimate the anti-worker sentiment currently in politics. And why wouldn't it be legal?

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2017 1:53 am
by patryk7754
fleet wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:
Axxo wrote:Any thoughts on that workers comp bill that could impact FA's coming to the Bears?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-bears-workers-comp-spt-0204-20170203-story.html

I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

I think you underestimate the anti-worker sentiment currently in politics. And why wouldn't it be legal?

I would think that you could take them to court and easily make it an age discrimination thing. But idk I haven't looked into it at all so I know little about the subject

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Free Agency

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2017 2:41 am
by heir_jordan22
Axxo wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:I have doubts it passes. Sports is king and in a football town like Chicago it has no chance. Plus it might not even be legal.

Other could pass and it's definitely legal. Demaurice Smith is a jackass. Most states don't have workers compensation for most athletes. A bunch that do have workers comp for athletes have a limit based on a number of WEEKS. Workers comp was designed to compensate injured workers for the expected lost income. The fact that privately athletes get workers comp til age 67 in Illinois is crazy.

And since most states don't have workers comp for athletes, or have workers comp that only lasts a designated number of weeks, the age 35 limit would sill be much more than most states give. Florida and Texas are two of the state's I remember don't give workers comp to athletes. Tampa Bay, Miami, Jacksonville, Houston, Dallas - no workers comp. Demaurice Smith doesn't open his dumbass mouth calling any of those organizations cheap.

He needs to be more educated about the laws before he makes statements like this, because even if it's passed, players will get workers comp after working for the Bears than they would with almost any other organization.

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Why isn't this addressed as part of the CBA if he is so concerned?

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The only two conclusions I can come to are that Demaurice Smith hates Chicago, or he is dumb, or he doesn't care enough to actually learn about the benefits his players are legally entitled to.

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Re: Free Agency

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2017 5:17 pm
by patryk7754
Packers' Shields says he's been released (via http://thesco.re/theScore_App )
http://www.thescore.com/news/1227363

Would be a nice pick up

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2017 6:01 pm
by patryk7754
Browns release Josh McCown, Tramon Williams, create $11M in cap space (via http://thesco.re/theScore_App )
http://www.thescore.com/news/1227002

Williams is old but still good. We shouldn't ignore his talent just because of his age. Would be a nice pick up

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2017 8:02 pm
by patryk7754
Eagles release Leodis McKelvin (via http://thesco.re/theScore_App )
http://www.thescore.com/news/1227545

Another good, veteran CB that would add legit depth for us.

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2017 9:57 pm
by heir_jordan22
Alright when will the Bears make their cuts. Does anyone have a link with the comprehensive list of free agents?

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Re: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:34 pm
by patryk7754
http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Competition-rises-for-Pierre-Garcons-services--51221965
Report: Competition rises for Pierre Garcon's services

Didn't expect the bears to go after a WR in free agency but he'd be a great pick up. Could also be a back up plan in case we lose Alson.

Also just realized we got like a month to resign him and we haven't heard any news.

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:25 pm
by patryk7754
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Aqib-Talib-could-be-on-chopping-block-51268423

I was saying he'd probably get released because of how much great depth that secondary has and it sounds like it's going to happen. He jumps to the top of my FA list if he does get released

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:53 pm
by patryk7754

Re: Free Agency

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:34 am
by TNBT
Victor Cruz released by NYG. Any interest here as a depth addition?


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